White men can't RUN. (aka what's Arsenal's secret)

Marcus

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I posted this on Koptalk...


IMHO

That's my conclusion on why Arsenal are probably gonna win it again this year. They have the most black players.

Like it or not, the facts do not lie. Everytime black players come onto the scene, the white and asian players who are genetically weaker lose out.

Basketball, American Football, track and field events like sprints and long distance running, when did a non-black last win a major event?

Venus and Serena Williams?

For United, it will not surprise you that our paciest player is Silvestre. Even Giggs (who is half-black) can't seem to keep up with him. I think buying black players is the safe option, that's why Rio was bought instead of Nesta.

Pacy white players like Owen, Overmars, Gronkjaer, etc are few and far between and are prone to injuries.

Whereas Arsenal have Kanu, Cole, Campbell, Viera, Henry, Wiltord, Lauren, Silva etc... They are athletes who run with genuine pace and don't seem to ever get tired or injured often.

I wouldn't be surprised if a well-coached African team wins the next world cup. Once the technique and tactics are honed, the physical side of the game is a given.

Its so darn obvious, this solution. Now we know what advantage Arsenal have over the rest of the teams.
 
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Originally posted by Ninja:
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He was a decent defender, but I see your point.
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Think we could call it "Atheleticsm" here ... in general physical sense, player with better atheleticsm means they can run faster, jumper higher, better body-balance (hence no matter how long their legs are doesn't really matter, they will STAND not fall) ... and they have more chances to get that "leopard" acceleration !! ...

I have mentioned this before ... and yes I think sometimes we did see something quite strange there ... I am not sure if it has got to do with the way a player grow ... but Blacks tend to have some advantages in terms of "atheleticsm" ...

I remembered I read this report years ago when Cuban Ladies Volleyball Team was dominating the world ... Their main spiker named Louise ... she apparently has some very strange structure at her butt's muscle hence making her very good in jumping high with ease ... Again, not sure if it's natural born (and more tense to happen to Black atheletics or some other factors) ...

Nevermind though ... jsut a point to note ...
 
I once had physio administered by a guy who used to work for Anderlecht. No word of lie, he once said to me words to the effect of "Why do you think the blacks are better than us? It's because they came down from the trees later than we did." Nutter. <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />
 
Nutter?

Bloody racist bastard you should have hit.
 
I don't think it's as black & white' as you put it! ;)

The Algerians & Moroccans are very good middle-distance & long distance runners & are considered Arabs tho' their countries are in Africa.

Real Madrid are arguably the best club side in the World but how many of their first team players are black?

United had 21/2 black players when they won the UEFA Champions League Final in '99 & despite dominating the EPL over the last 9 seasons, have less black players than most EPL clubs bar Everton, I think.

And Blacks can't swim! ;)

But whether a particular race excels or not depends alot on exposure, prejudices, culture, opportunities, etc & not solely on the particular trait of the race.

There's no doubting that Black players dominate in certain sports, more so, if you notice, in sports which are mainly American based but that's mainly due to the prejudices & treatment by the whites on blacks that make them concentrate in areas where they know they can compete on 'level' terms i.e. Sports.

That's why atheletics, boxing, tennis ( notice only in the women's event & not the men's? ), basketball, American Football are all dominated by blacks, whereas in sports like Rugby, Golf ( where Blacks are even worse off, prejudice-wise ), badminton, squash, table-tennis & swimming, other races dominate!

However, your theory is interesting in itself & should be applauded for bravery alone, if nothing else! :D
 
Originally posted by kkcbl:
<strong>I don't think it's as as you put it! ;)


There's no doubting that Black players dominate in certain sports, more so, if you notice, in sports which are mainly American based but that's mainly due to the prejudices & treatment by the whites on blacks that make them concentrate in areas where they know they can compete on 'level' terms i.e. Sports.

That's why atheletics, boxing, tennis ( notice only in the women's event & not the men's? ), basketball, American Football are all dominated by blacks, whereas in sports like Rugby, Golf ( where Blacks are even worse off, prejudice-wise ), badminton, squash, table-tennis & swimming, other races dominate!

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hmm.. how many black people go into rugby or golf?


i think its true about them being 'superior' in some aspects... 'white men can't jump' is a famous phrase.. and its true.. Afro-americans have stronger and tendons hence they can 'jump'.

Anyway, i don't think it has anything to do with the fact why arsenal are the best....
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Originally posted by Marcus:
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Whereas Arsenal have Kanu, Cole, Campbell, Viera, Henry, Wiltord, Lauren, Silva etc... They are athletes who run with genuine pace and don't seem to ever get tired or injured often.

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I agree with you this is their biggest edge over most of other teams. Basically I think Wenger is building his team around pace and stamina. However this alone doesn't complete a winning team. It's the mixing of the likes of Pires and Bergkamp that makes this team difficult to beat.
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<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> i cant believe you mention that shower of syphilitic brain waste. since when do you have to be fit to play golf? you just have to be capitalist. :)
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Black people definately make better athletes, but I'm not convinced they make better footballers (pele and a certain Siddy reject are obvious exceptions!)

A lot of African players have started well in the Prem but faded and eventually been moved on (Amocachi etc)

Some of these Senegalize rascals look fiercesome, but will they cope with a full season.

I definately forsee an African team making the WC final in the next 8 to 12 years.

I submit Diouf as my case study. He's looks a genuine athlete and has talent to burn. Lets see if he's still cutting it come May...
 
Thanks for your reply giggsy.

You quoted me but went on to mention

hmm.. how many black people go into rugby or golf?<hr></blockquote>

Er, did you read my earlier statement :

But whether a particular race excels or not depends alot on exposure, prejudices, culture, opportunities, etc & not solely on the particular trait of the race. <hr></blockquote>

But as to Arsenal's 'dominance', I think it's more to do with Wenger's principle that big, tall atheletic players close down space better, instill more physical fear to the opposition, & are harder to be knocked-off the ball & that's why he's always had big teams, regardless of whether they're black, white or yellow: Bergkamp, Kanu, Adams, Keown, Vieira, Seaman, Campbell, Silva, Henry, Cygan, Pires, Stephanovs, Edu, Luzhny & Upson are all 6ft & above ( even the skillful ones ) & the rest of the team aren't small by any means - therein lies the reason of success, methinks! ( Even ex-Gunner Inamoto is 6ft 4ins! )
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&gt;&gt;That's my conclusion on why Arsenal are &gt;&gt;probably gonna win it again this year. They &gt;&gt;have the most black players.

&gt;&gt;Like it or not, the facts do not lie. &gt;&gt;Everytime black players come onto the scene, &gt;&gt;the white and asian players who are &gt;&gt;genetically weaker lose out.

So would you rate Heskey as better than Owen or Fowler?

Viera as better than Keane?


&gt;&gt;Basketball, American Football, track and field &gt;&gt;events like sprints and long distance running, &gt;&gt;when did a non-black last win a major event?

A (white) Greek won the Olympic and European 200m at last two championships, leaving a trail of black athletes behind him.


&gt;&gt;For United, it will not surprise you that our &gt;&gt;paciest player is Silvestre.

And one of our slowest strikers was Yorke.

&gt;&gt;And are prone to injuries.

And Giggs isn't?


&gt;&gt;I wouldn't be surprised if a well-coached &gt;&gt;African team wins the next world cup.

I'd bet big money that an African team won't win the next WC.

All you can say that in general black athletes are very strong at explosive events. Kenyans are poor sprinters but great distance runners (this applies particularly to one ethnic group of Kenyans) and that generally slightly built North Africans (Arabs) are very good at endurance events. But it is equally possible for a white athlete to be better at any of these given events. Jonathan Edwards for example.


There are different skills involved football, foot/eye co-oridination, speed, flexibility, endurance. And different skills needed for particular postions in the game. For example it is hard to nominate a world class black goalkeeper.

Arsenal just happen to have a lot of good players.
 
Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that Blacks are still on the losing side where employment opportunities are concerned. Our world isn't as integrated and free of racism as many like to believe. Perhaps it's because they see one way of "making it in the world" and that is through the vehicule that is sport. This "theory" is probably more applicable to the US than anywhere else.
 
There are different skills involved football, foot/eye co-oridination, speed, flexibility, endurance. And different skills needed for particular postions in the game. For example it is hard to nominate a world class black goalkeeper.
&gt;I totally agree with you post about other aspects being important. I think what I was just trying to highlight that other than the goalie position, if it involves running, black players seem to have a physiological advantage to begin with in football.
 
Originally posted by kkcbl:
<strong>I don't think it's as black & white' as you put it! ;)

The Algerians & Moroccans are very good middle-distance & long distance runners & are considered Arabs tho' their countries are in Africa.

Real Madrid are arguably the best club side in the World but how many of their first team players are black?

United had 21/2 black players when they won the UEFA Champions League Final in '99 & despite dominating the EPL over the last 9 seasons, have less black players than most EPL clubs bar Everton, I think.

And Blacks can't swim! ;)

But whether a particular race excels or not depends alot on exposure, prejudices, culture, opportunities, etc & not solely on the particular trait of the race.

There's no doubting that Black players dominate in certain sports, more so, if you notice, in sports which are mainly American based but that's mainly due to the prejudices & treatment by the whites on blacks that make them concentrate in areas where they know they can compete on 'level' terms i.e. Sports.

That's why atheletics, boxing, tennis ( notice only in the women's event & not the men's? ), basketball, American Football are all dominated by blacks, whereas in sports like Rugby, Golf ( where Blacks are even worse off, prejudice-wise ), badminton, squash, table-tennis & swimming, other races dominate!

However, your theory is interesting in itself & should be applauded for bravery alone, if nothing else! :D </strong><hr></blockquote>

Thanks!

As for Real Madrid, I think the pace of the game in the EPL will kill them if their stars had to play in it week in week out.
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