Which academy players are likeliest to get (early) chances under Amorim?

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There are quite a lot of very knowledgeable posters here with regards to our academy players. I'm curious to know which of the youngsters have a chance to maybe get some first team action under Amorim. Both because they have quality and because Amorim won't have too much depth so if players aren't at a level he's not got a lot of options.

We've seen Ruud name Harry Amass, Jack Fletcher, Jayce Fitzgerald, Ethan Wheatley on the bench against Chelsea. So I wonder what those that really are clued up on the academy think.
 
Given LWB is a clear target in the summer I think Amass will be the most likely to get game time from those mentioned. I don’t think we can rely on Shaw and Malacia - assume we’ll sell as least one, sign a LWB, and have Amass for cover at first.
 
It's only Amass id imagine, given we are well covered in other positions and there isn't a clear top talent in the other positions to push an established player, while LB has a bunch of crocks and Amass has bags of talent
 
Jack Fletcher looks like the kind of midfielder we don't have that would be a good squad option.
 
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We look pretty decent at centre back and Mazraoui is an absolute fighter, so at least one of those wing back slots is occupied. But I'm mainly thinking about midfield. Casemiro and Eriksen don't have the legs to harry opponents non-stop. I liked the look of Gore in that pre-season before last, feisty, had character.

What type of player is Jack Fletcher? And what's the situation with Gore at the moment, back from injury and playing?
 
It's only Amass id imagine, given we are well covered in other positions and there isn't a clear top talent in the other positions to push an established player, while LB has a bunch of crocks and Amass has bags of talent

You not having Fletcher?

I think and hope Amorim will look at the U18s.
 
You not having Fletcher?

I think and hope Amorim will look at the U18s.
As a first team player this year? Not a chance. There is a big gap between youth/reserve level and premier league. The shouts to always just trust the youth is usually a bad idea, apart from the somewhat rare occasions where somebody is actually ready...
 
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As a first team player this year? Not a chance. There is a big gap between youth/reserve level and premier league. The shouts to always just trust the youth is usually a bad idea, apart from the somewhat rare occasions where somebody is actually ready...
think people forget that a lot of youth players eventually don’t turn professional. This probably applies to other teams maybe more so than ours.

What this also means is that our youth players can look like world-beaters and ready for first team, where in actual fact they are simply far above the level of the youth players they play against. Throw them against established EPL professionals and they’ll get destroyed more often than not.
 
It’s really difficult to assess as there’s some who are technically very good and others who’s temperament make them contenders. I think fringe players like Gore and Collyer will get a chance before the younger guys that have been touted recently. Both are hard workers and have a balanced game which is a quality the new manager seems to value.

I could probably list another 5 who I think have real quality but a left field shout could be Devaney.
 
Firstly, I think only one of the two WB slots will be occupied by a player one would traditionally consider to be a defender, fullback or wingback. I think the other slot will be taken by a player who is more naturally a wide attacker, such as Garnacho or Antony.

Secondly, I think one of the 3 CB slots can and will be intermittently filled by a wide defender like Mazroui or Shaw (when fit). I don’t think it’ll always be three traditional CBs, whether by availability or design.

Thirdly, Amorim essentially plays a box midfield with four central midfielders. Two at the base, two at the top. They are expected to function as a unit and be hardworking and disciplined. From what I’ve also seen they are also expected to be very front foot aggressive, they are also expected to be technically proficient. The best and most likely quartet seems very clear to me, Ugarte, Mainoo, Mount and Fernandes. With Casemiro, Amad and Eriksen (in that order) being the rotational options.

Up front he’s going to want a voracious runner. Someone who looks to get in behind, and will run the channels. Real tip of the spear stuff. With the ability to hold the ball up well to relieve pressure. Hojlund is by far and away the best fit for that system, despite his relative lack of experience and early development stage. The obvious rotational candidate for him would be Rashford, whose proclivity for playing off the shoulder and running in behind, makes him somewhat suitable for how Amorim plays. I can’t see Rashford playing as an AM, he simply doesn’t have the work rate or tactical brain to do so.

So young players? I don’t think there are many great options immediately available. But at a push I would say Amass maybe, but I think we’d play a winger there before an inexperienced defender; and Gore. Gore has the natural game to play as one of the base two in midfield. Collyer is more static and defensive minded, and I think Gore will leapfrog him now he’s back to fitness.
 
More than likely Kone as the coaches have raved about him according to media and hes the right age 18. I think the other two bought in are slightly younger than this. As for the youth there are quite few good ones being talked about and from the bits I have seen on Youtube.
 
I have only seen a few Youtube videos, so it's worth what it's worth, but I've noticed a few players whose characteristics might fit in Ruben's system (which I know very well). Just not sure if they also have the quality, or only the characteristics.

Harry Amass - Looks like a left-footed full/wing-back that can compete with Garnacho with that offensive spot down the left flank.

Jayce Fitzgerald - Interesting-looking midlefield. Might take him some time to get there, though.

Jack Fletcher - Ruben seems to have a particular interest in left-footed players, so you never know if he doesn't get his chance

Dan Gore - The videos seem to show a kind of british Pote (Pedro Gonçalves). If he's all that, he'll surely get his chance - guy pretty much seems to sum up Ruben's favorite player roleplay for that offensive middlefield/interior creative role.

Ethan Williams - A kind of striker who I wouldn't be surprised Ruben would bet on.
 
I watched 4 of our U21 and U18 matches this season, and a few other games at the end of the last season. From these games, I think only Ethan Ennis, Habeeb Ogunneye and of coure Toby Collyer are ready to play professional football regularly this season. If they won't be promoted to the first team this season, they should be loaned in Jan.

Ennis is an electric winger who could play across all attacking roles. Ogunneye is able to play RB and quite fast and strong but lack of technical attributes, a bit like Collyer in the midfield.
 
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Firstly, I think only one of the two WB slots will be occupied by a player one would traditionally consider to be a defender, fullback or wingback. I think the other slot will be taken by a player who is more naturally a wide attacker, such as Garnacho or Antony.

Secondly, I think one of the 3 CB slots can and will be intermittently filled by a wide defender like Mazroui or Shaw (when fit). I don’t think it’ll always be three traditional CBs, whether by availability or design.

Thirdly, Amorim essentially plays a box midfield with four central midfielders. Two at the base, two at the top. They are expected to function as a unit and be hardworking and disciplined. From what I’ve also seen they are also expected to be very front foot aggressive, they are also expected to be technically proficient. The best and most likely quartet seems very clear to me, Ugarte, Mainoo, Mount and Fernandes. With Casemiro, Amad and Eriksen (in that order) being the rotational options.

Up front he’s going to want a voracious runner. Someone who looks to get in behind, and will run the channels. Real tip of the spear stuff. With the ability to hold the ball up well to relieve pressure. Hojlund is by far and away the best fit for that system, despite his relative lack of experience and early development stage. The obvious rotational candidate for him would be Rashford, whose proclivity for playing off the shoulder and running in behind, makes him somewhat suitable for how Amorim plays. I can’t see Rashford playing as an AM, he simply doesn’t have the work rate or tactical brain to do so.

So young players? I don’t think there are many great options immediately available. But at a push I would say Amass maybe, but I think we’d play a winger there before an inexperienced defender; and Gore. Gore has the natural game to play as one of the base two in midfield. Collyer is more static and defensive minded, and I think Gore will leapfrog him now he’s back to fitness.
Good take.