What's the worst decision you've seen go for and against us?

I still think the Danny Ings penalty for West Ham earlier this season was one of the worst.

It wasn't high-profile but it was such rank-bad officiating and use of VAR from Michael Oliver, who's a classic example of a referee who knows all the laws but nothing about the game

Others that spring to mind in recent times...

Romero not punished for handball vs Garnacho's shot, when he stopped an on-target effort with two hands above his head.

McTominay not awarded a penalty when absolutely wiped out in the penalty area vs Palace away.

Bruno sent off for a little backheel trip in his own half vs Spurs this season.
 
I've always been incredibly bitter at Ronaldo not getting a penalty for being fully body checked by Distin I think against Portsmouth in the fa cup game in 07/08 when we had all the luck in the world against us, which stopped us winning the treble. Blatant pen not called.

For has to be the Roy Carroll "save", which was hilariously bad.
 
Already mentioned I think... but Drogba's offside goal in 2010, has to be the worst decision against us.... but might just have been made up for with Harry's last few second winner on Friday night :lol::lol::D
 
Moriarty said:
The worst I can remember is the European Cup semi-final against AC Milan in 1969. We were 0-2 down after some dodgy decisions in the San Siro. United, playing in white at home, tore into the Italians. Their goalie, Cudicini, was bombarded with shots. Best slipped Bobby in on the right and he hammered in a goal. 1-2 on aggregate. Then Denis Law put the ball over the line and turned away, arm raised, but a Milan defender - Hamrin if memory serves, hooked the ball out from the goal and the French ref waved play on. I saw the ball cross the line. Law saw it cross and so did the rest of the Stretford End. The ref must have seen it. Milan held out to meet Ajax in the final. We were robbed by a bent decision. Law wrote later that we would have probably beaten Ajax, who were on their way up but not yet a powerhouse, in the final. Milan beat them 4-1.
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Agreed. I was right behind the goal, a few rows up in the Stretford End that night. It was clearly a goal, but not given. I remember Denis Law shaking his fist at a Milan defender as play carried on.
 
The Nani card against Real. (I know its some debate, but the whole situation just sucked)

I dont have any that went our way, im just to busy dont caring when it go out way.
 
For us Roy Carroll has to be the worst. An awful call in stoppage time.

Against us, I genuinely think you could make a top 5 all time from the last 18 months alone and not have much to argue about. The West Ham penalty from Oliver on var and the Fernandes red card this season were simply incredible. The Hojlund 'foul' on Rodri from Oliver on var last season was just a nothing offence. The double yellow for Dalot in the same moment of dissent was just mind boggling, made worse by the fact that it was a terrible call from Oliver initially that aggravated him so much. There are too many to mention from the last couple of seasons.
 
Casemiro red card is hilariously bad when you see the other angle.

Most infuriating for me was Lamela forearming Martial in the head and Martial getting sent off for reacting. It's either both punished or neither.
 
Roy Carroll/Spurs : the lino and ref were miles away from the goal. They could not possibly see it had crossed the line. No cameras/var etc . Wtf were they supposed to do? Give a goal they cannot possibly see? Oliver wasn’t around then. It wasn’t a dishonest decision, unlike numerones every weekend that are overlooked now.

Obvs, it was a go.
 
Against: Martinez, Nani, Romero vs Spurs still infuriate me.
For: More difficult to remember.
 
bosnian_red said:
I've always been incredibly bitter at Ronaldo not getting a penalty for being fully body checked by Distin I think against Portsmouth in the fa cup game in 07/08 when we had all the luck in the world against us, which stopped us winning the treble. Blatant pen not called.

For has to be the Roy Carroll "save", which was hilariously bad.
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It wasn't just the Distin challenge either. Their penalty was awarded because Baros' knee collided with Kuszczak's head, and then he was sent off (presumably for DOGSO) after we'd made all of our subs, despite the ball running away from the goal, and Rooney and Anderson both being back behind it.

We'd have won another treble if Martin Atkinson hadn't been completely shite.
 
The worst go for us has to be Mendes non-goal for Spurs.

Offsides, pens, etc are ultimately just someone's decision. You can argue whether it is or isn't but it boils down to what 1 man thinks at the time, and there always arguments where someone will disagree.

But that? It was a goal. The ball crossed the line, fully. It just was a goal. There is no "well, maybe". Spurs scored. For it not to be given was mental
 
dazjoe said:
The worst go for us has to be Mendes non-goal for Spurs.

Offsides, pens, etc are ultimately just someone's decision. You can argue whether it is or isn't but it boils down to what 1 man thinks at the time, and there always arguments where someone will disagree.

But that? It was a goal. The ball crossed the line, fully. It just was a goal. There is no "well, maybe". Spurs scored. For it not to be given was mental
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I do think it was difficult for the linesman and ref to see.

The ref was literally on the halfway line, and the linesman wasn't particularly deep into the half either.

Then the way Carroll "saved" it meant his body was actually between them and the ball.

However, it was obviously a goal, and ultimately quite farcical that a ball crossing the line by that much wasn't awarded as a goal.
 
TsuWave said:
we likely would have at least one more CL to our name

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To me it's this. One, it wasn't even close to being offside. Two, as the tweet says, sliding doors moment - that goal stands, we win the tie, and Mourinho to Chelsea probably doesn't happen. That decision arguably changed the landscape of English football.
 
TsuWave said:
There were three players keeping him onside. Horrible, horrible decision.
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What makes it even more unfathomable is that the lino wouldn't have even seen Scholes due to their number 6 in between Scholes and the lino, playing him onside.
 
The Purley King said:
What makes it even more unfathomable is that the lino wouldn't have even seen Scholes due to their number 6 in between Scholes and the lino, playing him onside.
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That’s why I find it so hard to comprehend people rationalising that they prefer pre VAR times. Don’t get me wrong, VAR implementation isn’t always smooth - but look at the state of some decisions pre VAR and fecking hell
 
The Purley King said:
What makes it even more unfathomable is that the lino wouldn't have even seen Scholes due to their number 6 in between Scholes and the lino, playing him onside.
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He was definitely ball watching, rather than checking the line.

He basically saw Scholes two yards ahead and presumed he must have been offside, without considering that the line had stepped up while Scholes had moved onto the ball.
 
The worst decision I have ever seen, and one that has definitely gone against us is the decision to sell part of the club to Ineos.

They're basically British Glazers.

Anyone who follows NFL can draw a paralell between the Washington franchise's former owner and Manchester United's current owners.

Similarly, it's not getting any better here until they're all gone.
 
For us, clearly the Roy Carroll incident.

Against us, it has to be the offside call on Scholes v Porto. Goodbye to a CL trophy we had in our grasp even though it was a semi final.

Honorable mention is the Nani red card, button be fair it wasn’t a goal or no-goal decision, but it was a massive howler of a decision which changed the course of the game.
 
Alex99 said:
FA Cup quarter-final vs Portsmouth in 2008 robbed us of another treble.
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Definite penalty for Ronaldo v Portsmouth. Harry Redknapp was the only person in the world who thought it was a good challenge.
 
Remember that time Giggs got called offside for passing a ball to himself against Arsenal?

 
Alex99 said:
It wasn't just the Distin challenge either. Their penalty was awarded because Baros' knee collided with Kuszczak's head, and then he was sent off (presumably for DOGSO) after we'd made all of our subs, despite the ball running away from the goal, and Rooney and Anderson both being back behind it.

We'd have won another treble if Martin Atkinson hadn't been completely shite.
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Exactly this. For the penalty incident, I was at the opposite end, in the Stretford End. At the time it looked like a penalty for me, but after seeing a close up of the replays on TV, it was clear that Baros fouled Kuszczak, as you described.
 
FattyFooty said:
The Nani card against Real. (I know its some debate, but the whole situation just sucked)

I dont have any that went our way, im just to busy dont caring when it go out way.
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SAFs last season in Europe and we were well in the game until that point too, robbed, I will be rolling in my grave over that one...
 
Nani red card is the obvious one.

Does anyone remember the prick who snapped Luke Shaw’s ankle in half when we played PSV in the CL, didn’t even get a card and then went on to score the winner?

Still makes my blood boil. Literally ruined his career.
 
Irrational. said:
Nani red card is the obvious one.

Does anyone remember the prick who snapped Luke Shaw’s ankle in half when we played PSV in the CL, didn’t even get a card and then went on to score the winner?

Still makes my blood boil. Literally ruined his career.
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Moreno, there was not much wrong with that tackle really, won the ball, just caught him a trailing leg.
 
Oranges038 said:
Moreno, there was not much wrong with that tackle really, won the ball, just caught him a trailing leg.
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It was a two footed tackle which used extreme force if I remember correctly. Shaw was never the same after that. Shame as he’d built up a good understanding with Martial too.
 
Irrational. said:
It was a two footed tackle which used extreme force if I remember correctly. Shaw was never the same after that. Shame as he’d built up a good understanding with Martial too.
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He won the ball, stopped a goal and caught him with his trailing leg. It was good goal saving tackle that Shaw was unfortunate to pick up a serious injury from. Probably 99 times out of 100 both players walk away from that.
 
Worst decision against - Scholes massively onside goal against Mourinho's Porto in the Champions League 03/04. I think we would've won the CL that year if not for that decision.
 
Always think of the penalty Vardy won when we lost 5-3 at theirs. He fouls Rafael in the same manner that Rafael fouls him. Seconds apart. Only one given. Still boils my blood. Looked like we were flying too. Feels like LVG went ultradefensive after that match.
 
against probably Jonny Evans kung-fu kick on Drogba, it was brutal

I think we got a free-kick and Drogba did a sort of fit on the ground and got carded :lol:
 
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