What makes me laugh about Arsenal...

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is that their fans (eg "Gillespie") reckon they have a special rivalry with us....

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
 
yep we couldn't give a feck about them,

It's Scousers, City then Leeds who i hate the most, Arsenal don't even come close.
 
Surely you would have to be an utter nonse to think you don't considering the last five years in particular .

You -

CL title
Three PL titles
Two runner ups
FA Cup

Us

Two PL
Runners Up three times
Two FA Cups
Runner Up once
EUFA Cup Runner Up

That immense struggle at Villa Park

Every time we've met in the league everybody ( apart from you !) has commented on it always being the most intense and highly skilled contests between the two foremost protagonists .

What planet have you been on mate ?

Have you not noticed then .?

For me our 'rivalry v Spurs is zilch compared to ours with you ( And I know a few who think the same about City and you too .)

:rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by Jopub the Gooner:
<strong>Surely you would have to be an utter nonse to think you don't considering the last five years in particular .

You -

CL title
Three PL titles
Two runner ups
FA Cup

Us

Two PL
Runners Up three times
Two FA Cups
Runner Up once
EUFA Cup Runner Up

That immense struggle at Villa Park

Every time we've met in the league everybody ( apart from you !) has commented on it always being the most intense and highly skilled contests between the two foremost protagonists .

What planet have you been on mate ?

Have you not noticed then .?

For me our 'rivalry v Spurs is zilch compared to ours with you ( And I know a few who think the same about City and you too .)

:rolleyes: </strong><hr></blockquote>
Bollocks, there's very little rivalry between the Gooners in london that I know and myself, its all with Spurs and little else matters. Maybe you're a rival at the moment in terms of the league, but thats just at present and has nothing to do with tribal rivalry.
 
Rather Arsenal win the league than Liverpool. Even if Liverpool and Leeds were in Division 1, there would still be rivarly between us. We are only slight rivals with Arsenal because they are up there. When they become mediocre in a few years, we won't give a shit about matches with them. Case in point: Blackburn.
 
And a very pleasant bollocks to you too sir .

Rivalry is rivalry end of . It moves up and down relative to the situation.

I have Man Utd friends who did'nt give a feck about City -

They do now <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" />

Depends on how much of a threat your 'rivals ' are I think .
 
Originally posted by curt:
<strong>Rather Arsenal win the league than Liverpool. Even if Liverpool and Leeds were in Division 1, there would still be rivarly between us. We are only slight rivals with Arsenal because they are up there. When they become mediocre in a few years, we won't give a shit about matches with them. Case in point: Blackburn.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Hahahahah I love it, watching you fall is SO SO SOoo feckin sweet and al b ecause of the likes of you

Hahahah

Wonderful stuff :D :D
 
Originally posted by Jopub the Gooner:
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Hahahahah I love it, watching you fall is SO SO SOoo feckin sweet and al b ecause of the likes of you

Hahahah

Wonderful stuff :D :D </strong><hr></blockquote>

Likes of me? :rolleyes: Move along now, nothing to see here.
 
Originally posted by mancred:
<strong>is that their fans (eg "Gillespie") reckon they have a special rivalry with us....

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>#

Actually,I have never said there is any special rivalry between us.If I hate Man Utd ,it's because they are so clearly a club based upon squeezing every last penny out of their fans,wherever they may be ...from Surrey to Timbuktoo,and are outside of the old fashioned spirit that used to characterise football in this country.I know it's true ,to some extent,of all top clubs now,to become commercial to compete this days.But it was Merchandise United that killed the dream of innocence as far as football was concerned.Also,their unmitigated arrogance promulgated by a manager where bullying was his only way of motivation alienated lots of fans in this country,which explains the ABU phenomenon.

But if it's rivalry,you're talking about,for an Arse fan ,like myself,there is really only one bitter rivalry and that exists between ourselves and the 'Dark Side' aka Spxrs.
 
Originally posted by Gillespie:
<strong>#
like myself,there is really only one bitter rivalry and that exists between ourselves and the 'Dark Side' aka Spxrs.</strong><hr></blockquote>

so why dont u feck off and go over to the dark side or do u think playing with the big boys makes you better?
 
Originally posted by Gillespie:
<strong>Also,their unmitigated arrogance promulgated by a manager where bullying was his only way of motivation alienated lots of fans in this country,which explains the ABU phenomenon.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Good! I just wish that he had alienated a few more of you Londoners who come to our great stadium and try to be as quiet as possible.

Shhhhhhhhhhh.
 
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
<strong>

Good! I just wish that he had alienated a few more of you Londoners who come to our great stadium and try to be as quiet as possible.

Shhhhhhhhhhh.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Thanks for proving my point...all those 'londoners' are arriviste Surreyites who decided it was 'cool' to support Man Utd (you know the type that Posh and Becks get on with :D )

It's a shame you Mancs can't attract 'real fans ' to your stadium,because you never know what real fans sound like. :p
 
Originally posted by Gillespie:
<strong>

It's a shame you Mancs can't attract 'real fans ' to your stadium,because you never know what real fans sound like. :p </strong><hr></blockquote>

sooo

u dont think im a "real fan"

:rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by Gillespie:
<strong>It's a shame you Mancs can't attract 'real fans ' to your stadium,because you never know what real fans sound like. :p </strong><hr></blockquote>

We would if it wasn't populated by your compatriots. And remember, we have a stadium almost double the size of yours, which means we have more local support in our stadium than you do.

And why do they come to us and not to you? Fecking nutters they are. Support your local club. ;)
 
Originally posted by Fergiesarmy:
<strong>

sooo

u dont think im a "real fan"

:rolleyes: </strong><hr></blockquote>


Actually,I think you a poorly educated vulgar arsehole who confuses abuse with debate,has probably not got a girlfriend ,because it's difficult to see how you would know how to treat a lady,and i guess probably still lives with his mum .It doesn't bother me that you support the choice of 'Glory Hunters Everywhere' ,what bothers me is that your support of Man Utd is so blind,you're incapable of any attempt at objective analysis of your team,whether they play badly or not.In fact,you're probably the type that if you lose the next 3 games would be calling for the head of SAF because you assume that supporting Man Utd means you are guaranteed to win the Title,at least,every year.
 
Originally posted by Gillespie:
<strong>In fact,you're probably the type that if you lose the next 3 games would be calling for the head of SAF because you assume that supporting Man Utd means you are guaranteed to win the Title,at least,every year.</strong><hr></blockquote>

:eek: :eek: :eek:
 
I would really like to see what this thread turns into now, but I've got to go to bed.

Good reading this will be in the morn. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
 
Originally posted by Gillespie:
<strong>#

Actually,I have never said there is any special rivalry between us.If I hate Man Utd ,it's because they are so clearly a club based upon squeezing every last penny out of their fans,wherever they may be ...from Surrey to Timbuktoo,and are outside of the old fashioned spirit that used to characterise football in this country.I know it's true ,to some extent,of all top clubs now,to become commercial to compete this days.But it was Merchandise United that killed the dream of innocence as far as football was concerned.Also,their unmitigated arrogance promulgated by a manager where bullying was his only way of motivation alienated lots of fans in this country,which explains the ABU phenomenon.

But if it's rivalry,you're talking about,for an Arse fan ,like myself,there is really only one bitter rivalry and that exists between ourselves and the 'Dark Side' aka Spxrs.</strong><hr></blockquote>

You still going on about Surrey. I suppose all Arse fans don't come from anywhere but within spiiting distance of that dump you call a ground.
The only time you've had real fans was when you had that mural
 
Arsenal our rivals?????? <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />


City, Liverpool and then Leeds(they really hate us :eek: )


Arsenal don't come close...
 
Originally posted by giggzy:
<strong>Arsenal our rivals?????? <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />


City, Liverpool and then Leeds(they really hate us :eek: )


Arsenal don't come close...</strong><hr></blockquote>

Heh heh that's why you're so bloody terrified of us .

Mind you you have good reason to be currrently.

How long is it now without a trophy ? nearly two years ? I spose you would discount these ones in your carefully chosen pick of the glory ones .

You make me larf......."we have a divine right to be the champs na naa na naa na .... "
 
Originally posted by Jopub the Gooner:
<strong>

Heh heh that's why you're so bloody terrified of us .

Mind you you have good reason to be currrently.

How long is it now without a trophy ? nearly two years ? I spose you would discount these ones in your carefully chosen pick of the glory ones .

You make me larf......."we have a divine right to be the champs na naa na naa na .... "</strong><hr></blockquote>

2 trophies in a year and they're unbeatable. Don't make me laugh.
Wait till you win 3 in a month, then come on here and make a point!
How many premeirship trophies do you have??
How many CL title do you have??
How many British players do you have??
 
Originally posted by Ever hopefull:
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2 trophies in a year and they're unbeatable. Don't make me laugh.
Wait till you win 3 in a month, then come on here and make a point!
How many premeirship trophies do you have??
How many CL title do you have??
How many British players do you have??</strong><hr></blockquote>

In the last day or so I have seen a lot about what you have won and what we have not . Here's the definitive history of trophies that are recognised as having serious validity domestically and in Europe so forget the Charity Shield and World Club Championships . As trophies even you I hope accept they are not in the bracket of the 'real' ones (I'll put this up in another thread Too) :

ARSENAL
12 titles
1931, 1933, 1934, 1935, 1938, 1948, 1953, 1971, 1989, 1991, 1998, 2002
____

FACup
Winners 1930/36/50/71/79/93/98/02
Runners UP 1927/32/52/72/78/80/01

15 Finals - 8 time winners
___

Football League Cup

winnrs 1986/93
Runners up 1968/69/87

5 finals 2 Winner 3 Rnrs Up

Euro

WInners Fairs (EuFA) Cup 1970
Runnrs Up 2000

ECWC winners 94
ECWC RnnrsUp 80 / 1995

5 Finals 2 winners 3 runners Up

In all domestic and Euro cups
A total of 25 finals
12 wins / 13 runners Up

______________________________________
MANUTD

14 League titles 1907,1910,1951,1955,1956,1964, 1966,1992,1993,1995,1996,1998,1999,2000
__

FACup 10 wins
Runners UP 5
__

League Cup
winners 1
Runns Up 3
___

Euro

WInners European Cup x2
ECWC 1 win

Finals 23
won 14

Now SURPRISED ......... I bet . Of course you can look at this forgeting EVERYTHING other than the various glory years of both clubs or you can see that actually comparitively speaking we hold our ground very very well imo .

I grant you the two European Cup successes are more prestigious particular the 1968 when it really was a 'champions' cup ( just personal opinion )

Well after looking at that it does surprise me that untill only recently you were quite well behind in the league title stakes, but things change , it goes in circles and every dog has their day .

Nevertheless I am quite pleasantly surprised . You have the edge but I think considering your huge financial resources we run you pretty close and deserve much respect for that .

Maybe you might now see that we are not quite that little insignificant club round the corner that you like to think we are .

Who knows should we have two brilliant years that bring another PL title or two ad a CL we just might be able to say we are your equals

;) ;)
 
I'm amazed you bothered to take the time to look all that up when the main point of you argument was how we hadn't won anything for nearly 2 years.
Surely all that proves is that you have to go back to the 1980's and earlier to compete with us.
As for huge financial resources it wasn't a million years ago we were nearly bought for £10 million by Michael Knighton. We only have huge resources because we were the first team to realise that footbal is not a sport anymore its a business. Just because your directors were slow on the uptake, don't expect an appology from anyone at Old Trafford
 
Originally posted by Jopub the Gooner:
<strong>

You make me larf......."we have a divine right to be the champs na naa na naa na .... "</strong><hr></blockquote>

I've never said that...


as long as we play good football, thats enough for me... i've witnessed a great 12 odd years... so, if we don't win anything again for another decade, then so beit... we don't have the divine right to win the PL every year, no one does!!


;)


PS.. spurs and west ham are your rivals.......
 
Originally posted by Jopub the Gooner:
<strong>Surely you would have to be an utter nonse to think you don't considering the last five years in particular .

You -

CL title
Three PL titles
Two runner ups
FA Cup

Us

Two PL
Runners Up three times
Two FA Cups
Runner Up once
EUFA Cup Runner Up

That immense struggle at Villa Park

Every time we've met in the league everybody ( apart from you !) has commented on it always being the most intense and highly skilled contests between the two foremost protagonists .

What planet have you been on mate ?

Have you not noticed then .?

For me our 'rivalry v Spurs is zilch compared to ours with you ( And I know a few who think the same about City and you too .)

:rolleyes: </strong><hr></blockquote>

I agree. City is meaningless now.
The rivalry is there between United and Arsenal because they are the best 2 teams in England over the last 5 -6 years. Rivalry with Liverpool goes deeper. Leeds are just filth.
 
Originally posted by Jopub the Gooner:
<strong>

In the last day or so I have seen a lot about what you have won and what we have not . Here's the definitive history of trophies that are recognised as having serious validity domestically and in Europe so forget the Charity Shield and World Club Championships . As trophies even you I hope accept they are not in the bracket of the 'real' ones (I'll put this up in another thread Too) :

ARSENAL
12 titles
1931, 1933, 1934, 1935, 1938, 1948, 1953, 1971, 1989, 1991, 1998, 2002
____

FACup
Winners 1930/36/50/71/79/93/98/02
Runners UP 1927/32/52/72/78/80/01

15 Finals - 8 time winners
___

Football League Cup

winnrs 1986/93
Runners up 1968/69/87

5 finals 2 Winner 3 Rnrs Up

Euro

WInners Fairs (EuFA) Cup 1970
Runnrs Up 2000

ECWC winners 94
ECWC RnnrsUp 80 / 1995

5 Finals 2 winners 3 runners Up

In all domestic and Euro cups
A total of 25 finals
12 wins / 13 runners Up

______________________________________
MANUTD

14 League titles 1907,1910,1951,1955,1956,1964, 1966,1992,1993,1995,1996,1998,1999,2000
__

FACup 10 wins
Runners UP 5
__

League Cup
winners 1
Runns Up 3
___

Euro

WInners European Cup x2
ECWC 1 win

Finals 23
won 14

Now SURPRISED ......... I bet . Of course you can look at this forgeting EVERYTHING other than the various glory years of both clubs or you can see that actually comparitively speaking we hold our ground very very well imo .

I grant you the two European Cup successes are more prestigious particular the 1968 when it really was a 'champions' cup ( just personal opinion )

Well after looking at that it does surprise me that untill only recently you were quite well behind in the league title stakes, but things change , it goes in circles and every dog has their day .

Nevertheless I am quite pleasantly surprised . You have the edge but I think considering your huge financial resources we run you pretty close and deserve much respect for that .

Maybe you might now see that we are not quite that little insignificant club round the corner that you like to think we are .

Who knows should we have two brilliant years that bring another PL title or two ad a CL we just might be able to say we are your equals

;) ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

You've really shown yourself up here mate......
 
Originally posted by Gillespie:
<strong>


Actually,I think you a poorly educated vulgar arsehole who confuses abuse with debate,has probably not got a girlfriend ,because it's difficult to see how you would know how to treat a lady,and i guess probably still lives with his mum .It doesn't bother me that you support the choice of 'Glory Hunters Everywhere' ,what bothers me is that your support of Man Utd is so blind,you're incapable of any attempt at objective analysis of your team,whether they play badly or not.In fact,you're probably the type that if you lose the next 3 games would be calling for the head of SAF because you assume that supporting Man Utd means you are guaranteed to win the Title,at least,every year.</strong><hr></blockquote>

What a sad little man! What the feck are you talking about? We can't choose who SAYS they support the club, just like you can't help Tom Watt supporting Arse. But the odd thing is, and the thing that really pisses you off is that we can pull 67000 people, game in, game out. A sizable proportion of which happen to be cockneys. But then again, we get fans from Scandanavia, Glasgow, Spain, and Germany, etc etc etc. These "Glory Hunters" spend their own hard-earned cash to see their team, and then are taken the piss out of by twats like you.
The truth is, pal, we have won the PL seven times in nine years, whilst you've won it twice. You've gone from a team that won't lose a game this season, to one that's getting turned over on a regular basis. And you are shitting it! Because you know that we are more than able to take the title off you,again. Dont You! :cool: :cool: <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" /> <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" /> <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" />
 
Originally posted by Jopub the Gooner:
<strong>Surely you would have to be an utter nonse to think you don't considering the last five years in particular .

You -

CL title
Three PL titles
Two runner ups
FA Cup

Us

Two PL
Runners Up three times
Two FA Cups
Runner Up once
EUFA Cup Runner Up
</strong><hr></blockquote>

And the five years before?
Us - lots
You - feck all.