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u are a fecking glory hunter, support your team and the players damnit! eventhough they make mistakes <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" />
 
MISTAKES : that will be the name of the UTD 01-02 video.

Mistakes have plagued us all season and has now IMO cost us our title.
Many players have been resposible i just happened to be VERON today, no scapegoats hear please! The TEAM should have been able to recover!

:( :( :(
 
Originally posted by aleni:
<strong>u are a fecking glory hunter, support your team and the players damnit! eventhough they make mistakes <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

Admit the fact that we don't deserve to win the title or any competition for that matter with these kind of performances popping up every now and then.

Veron, the defence etc have been the main culprits but overall it's a collective thing.
 
Veron just doesnt fit into the team! His form is awful! Do your passes Seba! Or go back to your beloved Lazio! I just dont think his heart is with United.
 
veron was playmaker in lazio, now he's more defencing in united.. if only fergie places him as a pure attacking midfielder
 
Until this stage, this time, still Veron gives ball away like this. Where other players have learnt, Veron never learns.
 
Originally posted by Unknown7:
<strong>Until this stage, this time, still Veron gives ball away like this. Where other players have learnt, Veron never learns.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Sadly, that's true. I really hope he can show us his true class at least by the start of next season if not now.

That is if he doesn't move off to Lazio.
 
Originally posted by aleni:
<strong>u are a fecking glory hunter, support your team and the players damnit! eventhough they make mistakes <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

I would have agree with his statement and I fail to see why you've called him a glory hunter.
 
Originally posted by Stanley Road:
<strong>

Yeah i am

I've tried to be the 'Wooden spoon' hunter but it's not the same

Today that was a schoolboy mistake</strong><hr></blockquote>

What pisses me off even more is that Veron was stripped in the same way down field only a couple minutes earlier. I would have expect that to be his wake up call. But, he played like he was King Sh.t.
 
Originally posted by Unknown7:
<strong>Until this stage, this time, still Veron gives ball away like this. Where other players have learnt, Veron never learns.</strong><hr></blockquote>

So true.
 
Originally posted by lchk:
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Sadly, that's true. I really hope he can show us his true class at least by the start of next season if not now.

That is if he doesn't move off to Lazio.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Hate to say it, but I think he has got enough chanses now ! how many does he need ! Tou don't need a full season to settle in or what? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
 
Originally posted by Candona:
<strong>Veron just doesnt fit into the team! His form is awful! Do your passes Seba! Or go back to your beloved Lazio! I just dont think his heart is with United.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Post, after post, after post, you are seriously pissing me off you tosser! :mad:

Should we break his legs too, as well as the ref's, and bombing the Boro team bus! YOU cnut! :mad:
 
Give Veron the support he needs! It is easy to pass judgement when we are sitting in the stands or watching on tv (like me), but the fact is our lads are the ones actually on the pitch.

The speed of the English game is unbelievable compared to the other leagues and don`t forget that just because Veron is a very talented player doesn`t mean he must automatically adjust to a new team in a new league and never, ever make mistakes.

The man is human and until some supporters actually get out there on the pitch and play in the Premiership they will never understand its speed and demands.

Manchester United should have recovered from any mistakes made in the game. We have enough class and firepower to do it. Yesterday was an off day, an unlucky day and yes, it is bad timing but do you really think the lads themselves wanted it that way?

Our lads are super but also human. Not superhuman!
 
Originally posted by Norwegian Red:
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Hate to say it, but I think he has got enough chanses now ! how many does he need ! Tou don't need a full season to settle in or what? :confused: </strong><hr></blockquote>

Maybe I am biased but I am willing to give him until the first third of next season to show us his magic - I am still mesmerized by his form during the '98 WC and with Lazio when they won the Scudetto.

The same cannot be said of players like Brown, Mickey etc who have had several seasons under their belts and has failed to convince me that they are good enough to be first-team regulars.
 
Veron has put in some fairly decent displays this season, and if you dont see the potential in him then you dont know football.

I have not heard anyone attach even partial blame for the goal to barthez who fed the ball to veron in a dangerous area with carbone bearing down on him. If i was a midfielder i would not want a ball played to me there and barthez IS also responsible for the goal.

things like that happen in football, and that early in the game it shouldnt be a problem to get one back, in other games we have conceded more than one goal and gone on to win so what was the problem this time?

Making Veron the scapegoat for an all-round poor team performance makes me sick, my message to all you Veron knockers is this - GET YOUR HEADS OUT THE feckING GLUE BAG!
 
Veron is an excellent player - for Argentina. He hasn't yet turned it on consistently for us. That's a cold fact. If he wants to stay, then fine - I'm sure that he will get better and better. But he should not have been in the team yesterday at the expense of Paul Scholes.

What incentive does a player have if he can turn in two excellent back to back performances, and then not get selected, especially when you lose your place to someone whose form has been patchy.

Even if we'd won yesterday, I'd feel the same way. Scholes has been messed about all season - first he's played in a position which doesn't suit him week after week, whilst we drop point after point, and then when he gets his form back, he's dropped altogether.
 
Originally posted by zippy:
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I have not heard anyone attach even partial blame for the goal to barthez who fed the ball to veron in a dangerous area with carbone bearing down on him. </strong><hr></blockquote>

There could be a good reason for that

Barthez had Fkall to do with it

It was Silvestre that gave him the ball and Carbone was hardly breathing down his neck when he received it

Hope that clears things up for you

;)
 
Originally posted by zippy:
<strong>

I have not heard anyone attach even partial blame for the goal to barthez who fed the ball to veron in a dangerous area with carbone bearing down on him. If i was a midfielder i would not want a ball played to me there and barthez IS also responsible for the goal.

</strong><hr></blockquote>

its fairly obvious from that statement you haven't seen the goal.

It was a perfectly normal, no pressure pass from Micky to Veron.

Veron pissed around needlessly turned round to face Barthez and Carbone saw his chance. There's nobody to 'blame' except Veron.
 
Originally posted by giggsgirl:
<strong>Give Veron the support he needs! It is easy to pass judgement when we are sitting in the stands or watching on tv (like me), but the fact is our lads are the ones actually on the pitch.

The speed of the English game is unbelievable compared to the other leagues and don`t forget that just because Veron is a very talented player doesn`t mean he must automatically adjust to a new team in a new league and never, ever make mistakes.

The man is human and until some supporters actually get out there on the pitch and play in the Premiership they will never understand its speed and demands.

Manchester United should have recovered from any mistakes made in the game. We have enough class and firepower to do it. Yesterday was an off day, an unlucky day and yes, it is bad timing but do you really think the lads themselves wanted it that way?

Our lads are super but also human. Not superhuman!</strong><hr></blockquote>


Thats a stupid excuse. Thats like saying a seial killer is the way he is bcause he was beaten as a child and we should forgive him for it, its not his fault. That does not change the fact that he is a serial killer and has done a lot of damage. The truth is we have paid a whopping 28 million for this guy, and he is not performing to the standards expected of him. I dont care if hes Argentinian, loves lazio or is not used to the English game. He's a professional football player, football is football wherever you go. I want Veron to succeed I dont want to see him perform like this, but he has been doing it time and again. I would love him to prove me wrong, and from now on play 10/10 in every match. Then I would like everyone to rub it in for me doubting him, but that is seriously not on the cards, he is not a crap player at all, but he has not proven to the Man Utd faithful that he is worth 28 million pounds. You have to earn your respect.
 
Originally posted by Nix:
<strong>he has not proven to the Man Utd faithful that he is worth 28 million pounds. You have to earn your respect.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Has Beckham proved to you that hes worth 50 million?
Has Giggs proved that hes worth at least 30 mill?

The price tag doesnt matter, he made a mistake yesterday. Thats what happens if we are going to keep up this ridiculos policy of signing humans.
Veron is an easy target for knockers. Was his mistake worse than Giggs miss?
 
Originally posted by Stanley Road:
<strong>Yeah
0-0 would have been better than 1-0</strong><hr></blockquote>

Its still a mistake and both equally easy to fall for.
Thats the problem for Keepers and defenders, ie when they make a mistake its costly but when an attacker does it its soon forgotten unless its of Andy Cole vs West Ham proportions.
The fact that we couldnt score against Boro is the fault of a lot more ppl than Veron. Had we lost one nil to west Ham would Silvestre have been slaughtered? As it was we won and its forgotten.
Try and see the big picture.
 
Originally posted by Stanley Road:
<strong>That wasn't the question

Was Giggsys miss as bad as Verons mistake?

No it wasn't</strong><hr></blockquote>

Well what about the rest of it then?
 
Originally posted by Murt:
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Well what about the rest of it then?</strong><hr></blockquote>

The defence has been collectively shambolic on many occasions this season, under pressure they've Fked up

Under no pressure, one should not commit errors to that degree

Dont just take my word for it, give Fergie a ring and ask him if he 'Collectively' bollocked the defence at half time or if he had a special phrase for JV
 
its not like were slaggin veron off for one off game. How many times has he lost the ball in dangerous positions?? Today he was caught and we got fecked. Its stupid to ask whether Giggs is worth 20 mill or becks 50, because we did not have to pay anything for them!! Becks and Giggs have already proven to all the Man Utd supporters their worth, Veron has not. We all True, they have been here many more years, but we payed 28 million pounds, and should get more out of him.
 
Originally posted by Nix:
<strong>its not like were slaggin veron off for one off game. How many times has he lost the ball in dangerous positions?? Today he was caught and we got fecked. Its stupid to ask whether Giggs is worth 20 mill or becks 50, because we did not have to pay anything for them!! Becks and Giggs have already proven to all the Man Utd supporters their worth, Veron has not. We all True, they have been here many more years, but we payed 28 million pounds, and should get more out of him.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I'm not too sure whether the money is an issue

I would not expect Robbie Savage to fk around with the ball like that in the danger zone
 
Originally posted by Stanley Road:
<strong>Dont just take my word for it, give Fergie a ring and ask him if he 'Collectively' bollocked the defence at half time or if he had a special phrase for JV</strong><hr></blockquote>

I sms'd him and he replied that he had collectively bollocked em all ;) =
 
Originally posted by Nix:
<strong>its not like were slaggin veron off for one off game. How many times has he lost the ball in dangerous positions?? Today he was caught and we got fecked. Its stupid to ask whether Giggs is worth 20 mill or becks 50, because we did not have to pay anything for them!! Becks and Giggs have already proven to all the Man Utd supporters their worth, Veron has not. We all True, they have been here many more years, but we payed 28 million pounds, and should get more out of him.</strong><hr></blockquote>

So had we have paid 50 mill for Becks last week and he played like he did yesterday and for the majority of the season youd be happy?