What Ferguson really needs to do....

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is start all over again.

Sell - Barthez, Blanc, Veron, Forlan, Silvestre, Brown and the Nevilles.

Keep - RVN, Giggs, Scholes, Keane (discipline him though) Beckham, Ferdinand and Solskjaer.

Build on that back-bone by buying players like, Mexes, Boumsong, Djibril Cisse etc.

Ideally, I think all Man Utd fans would like to see this sort of thing happen, but I'm sorry to say I think Ferguson is too British!

Look at the top 2 teams in England - Arsenal and Liverpool. they are both run by French managers, they both have French players like Pires, Henry, Cheyrou, Traore etc. It's like they are looking in at England, whereas Ferguson is looking out at Europe.

It must be said that France and the continental countries are producing top young players, England isn't! It is also easier for Wenger and Houllier to charm young French lads into playing for their teams, Ferguson tried with Mexes but it didn't work!

I mean if you were Phillipe Mexes, and AF came up to you looking slightly drunk (I'm sorry it's the truth) and you saw the way he is so strict in training, and he tried to charm you by sending you Xmas cards, you probably wouldn't go to his club.

But if Wenger/Houllier came up to you looking intelligent, calm, assured, you would go to thm surely!

What do you think? Is it a silly theory??
 
Originally posted by forlan's_the_man:
<strong>is start all over again.

Sell - Barthez, Blanc, Veron, Forlan, Silvestre, Brown and the Nevilles.

Keep - RVN, Giggs, Scholes, Keane (discipline him though) Beckham, Ferdinand and Solskjaer.

Build on that back-bone by buying players like, Mexes, Boumsong, Djibril Cisse etc.
The two French cnuts you mention haven´t even won half as much as SAF
Ideally, I think all Man Utd fans would like to see this sort of thing happen, but I'm sorry to say I think Ferguson is too British!

Look at the top 2 teams in England - Arsenal and Liverpool. they are both run by French managers, they both have French players like Pires, Henry, Cheyrou, Traore etc. It's like they are looking in at England, whereas Ferguson is looking out at Europe.

It must be said that France and the continental countries are producing top young players, England isn't! It is also easier for Wenger and Houllier to charm young French lads into playing for their teams, Ferguson tried with Mexes but it didn't work!

I mean if you were Phillipe Mexes, and AF came up to you looking slightly drunk (I'm sorry it's the truth) and you saw the way he is so strict in training, and he tried to charm you by sending you Xmas cards, you probably wouldn't go to his club.

But if Wenger/Houllier came up to you looking intelligent, calm, assured, you would go to thm surely!

What do you think? Is it a silly theory??</strong><hr></blockquote>
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Originally posted by forlan's_the_man:
<strong>is start all over again.

Sell - Barthez, Blanc, Veron, Forlan, Silvestre, Brown and the Nevilles.

Keep - RVN, Giggs, Scholes, Keane (discipline him though) Beckham, Ferdinand and Solskjaer.

Build on that back-bone by buying players like, Mexes, Boumsong, Djibril Cisse etc.
The two french cnuts you mention haven´t won half as much as SAF. You really are a frogeating bastard aren´t you?
Ideally, I think all Man Utd fans would like to see this sort of thing happen, but I'm sorry to say I think Ferguson is too British!

Look at the top 2 teams in England - Arsenal and Liverpool. they are both run by French managers, they both have French players like Pires, Henry, Cheyrou, Traore etc. It's like they are looking in at England, whereas Ferguson is looking out at Europe.

It must be said that France and the continental countries are producing top young players, England isn't! It is also easier for Wenger and Houllier to charm young French lads into playing for their teams, Ferguson tried with Mexes but it didn't work!

I mean if you were Phillipe Mexes, and AF came up to you looking slightly drunk (I'm sorry it's the truth) and you saw the way he is so strict in training, and he tried to charm you by sending you Xmas cards, you probably wouldn't go to his club.

But if Wenger/Houllier came up to you looking intelligent, calm, assured, you would go to thm surely!

What do you think? Is it a silly theory??</strong><hr></blockquote>
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Originally posted by forlan's_the_man:
<strong>is start all over again.

Sell - Barthez, Blanc, Veron, Forlan, Silvestre, Brown and the Nevilles.

Keep - RVN, Giggs, Scholes, Keane (discipline him though) Beckham, Ferdinand and Solskjaer.

Build on that back-bone by buying players like, Mexes, Boumsong, Djibril Cisse etc.
SAF has won a lot more things than the two frogeating BASTARDS you mention
Ideally, I think all Man Utd fans would like to see this sort of thing happen, but I'm sorry to say I think Ferguson is too British!

Look at the top 2 teams in England - Arsenal and Liverpool. they are both run by French managers, they both have French players like Pires, Henry, Cheyrou, Traore etc. It's like they are looking in at England, whereas Ferguson is looking out at Europe.

It must be said that France and the continental countries are producing top young players, England isn't! It is also easier for Wenger and Houllier to charm young French lads into playing for their teams, Ferguson tried with Mexes but it didn't work!

I mean if you were Phillipe Mexes, and AF came up to you looking slightly drunk (I'm sorry it's the truth) and you saw the way he is so strict in training, and he tried to charm you by sending you Xmas cards, you probably wouldn't go to his club.

But if Wenger/Houllier came up to you looking intelligent, calm, assured, you would go to thm surely!

What do you think? Is it a silly theory??</strong><hr></blockquote>
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Originally posted by forlan's_the_man:
<strong>is start all over again.

Sell - Barthez, Blanc, Veron, Forlan, Silvestre, Brown and the Nevilles.

Keep - RVN, Giggs, Scholes, Keane (discipline him though) Beckham, Ferdinand and Solskjaer.

Build on that back-bone by buying players like, Mexes, Boumsong, Djibril Cisse etc.
Why can´t I get this post right? I must have been to abusive towards those two french twats, but the fact is that SAF has won a lot more than those french c***s
Ideally, I think all Man Utd fans would like to see this sort of thing happen, but I'm sorry to say I think Ferguson is too British!

Look at the top 2 teams in England - Arsenal and Liverpool. they are both run by French managers, they both have French players like Pires, Henry, Cheyrou, Traore etc. It's like they are looking in at England, whereas Ferguson is looking out at Europe.

It must be said that France and the continental countries are producing top young players, England isn't! It is also easier for Wenger and Houllier to charm young French lads into playing for their teams, Ferguson tried with Mexes but it didn't work!

I mean if you were Phillipe Mexes, and AF came up to you looking slightly drunk (I'm sorry it's the truth) and you saw the way he is so strict in training, and he tried to charm you by sending you Xmas cards, you probably wouldn't go to his club.

But if Wenger/Houllier came up to you looking intelligent, calm, assured, you would go to thm surely!

What do you think? Is it a silly theory??</strong><hr></blockquote>
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Why can´t I quote the dipper? Anyway, SAF has won a lot more than the two c***s you mention and I really want the majority of MU-players to be british
 
Originally posted by MauritianRed:
<strong>Sshpecially calling yourself Forlan when you support the Arse.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I am not a Gooner! And never will be!
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Originally posted by OT:
<strong>Why can´t I quote the dipper? Anyway, SAF has won a lot more than the two c***s you mention and I really want the majority of MU-players to be british</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yes of course, but if you look back at Man Utd's strongest periods they've had young British players like, Beckham, Giggs, Scholes, Cole, Keane (I'm counting him as practically British), Gary Neville etc.

Now they're older, Cole's moved on, you could argue that a couple are past it, Keane's getting bans and injuries etc.

Whilst at Arsenal Henry, Pires, Vieira have all hit their peak, and at liverpool Baros, Traore, Cheyrou, Diouf etc. are stars of the future. Maybe this is why Man Utd aren't doing great, and it will be hard for AF to turn things around.
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i've gotta say i haven't seen many of the foreign transfer prospects, but one player i have seen a bit of is Mexes and i reckon with the right coaching he could be a good buy.
As for starting all over again, its a bit drastic. We're not that bad, i think its mainly a confidence thing. If we can get on a roll the confidence will come back and you'll see a completely different side from the one that struggled to break down a very defensive Villa side.
This team is reaching its peak, most of the players are under 30, its easy to forget that fact because many of the players established themselves at such a young age.
 
Originally posted by Ever hopefull:
<strong>i've gotta say i haven't seen many of the foreign transfer prospects, but one player i have seen a bit of is Mexes and i reckon with the right coaching he could be a good buy.
As for starting all over again, its a bit drastic. We're not that bad, i think its mainly a confidence thing. If we can get on a roll the confidence will come back and you'll see a completely different side from the one that struggled to break down a very defensive Villa side.
This team is reaching its peak, most of the players are under 30, its easy to forget that fact because many of the players established themselves at such a young age.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yes, but I do think you need to get rid of a few players. Barthez for one, you don't want to be like Arsenal, good team but bad keeper! And Blanc, if you replaced them with good players I'd begin to worry a lot!
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Originally posted by forlan's_the_man:
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Yes, but I do think you need to get rid of a few players. Barthez for one, you don't want to be like Arsenal, good team but bad keeper! And Blanc, if you replaced them with good players I'd begin to worry a lot!</strong><hr></blockquote>

you're pathetic man.. just because poo are winning out of luck - and nothing to do with performance - you think you can criticize our players..

tell you what, dipper, our players - the ones you are criticizing - have won more trophies than all of yours combined. this experience will get us places. and this lack of experience will get you a big slump in December. sucker.
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Originally posted by forlan's_the_man:
<strong>But if Houllier came up to you looking intelligent, calm, assured, you would go to thm surely!</strong><hr></blockquote>

It must be 50 years since Houllier last came up to anyone looking intelligent, calm, or assured.
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<img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" /> calm and assured <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />
 
Originally posted by forlan's_the_man:
<strong>is start all over again.

Sell - Barthez, Blanc, Veron, Forlan, Silvestre, Brown and the Nevilles.

Keep - RVN, Giggs, Scholes, Keane (discipline him though) Beckham, Ferdinand and Solskjaer.

Build on that back-bone by buying players like, Mexes, Boumsong, Djibril Cisse etc.

What a load of unadulterated crabshit.

What a load of unadulterated crabshit.

Ideally, I think all Man Utd fans would like to see this sort of thing happen, but I'm sorry to say I think Ferguson is too British!

Look at the top 2 teams in England - Arsenal and Liverpool. they are both run by French managers, they both have French players like Pires, Henry, Cheyrou, Traore etc. It's like they are looking in at England, whereas Ferguson is looking out at Europe.

It must be said that France and the continental countries are producing top young players, England isn't! It is also easier for Wenger and Houllier to charm young French lads into playing for their teams, Ferguson tried with Mexes but it didn't work!

I mean if you were Phillipe Mexes, and AF came up to you looking slightly drunk (I'm sorry it's the truth) and you saw the way he is so strict in training, and he tried to charm you by sending you Xmas cards, you probably wouldn't go to his club.

But if Wenger/Houllier came up to you looking intelligent, calm, assured, you would go to thm surely!

What do you think? Is it a silly theory??</strong><hr></blockquote>
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Does this guy actually watch football or just read tabliod trash.
 
Originally posted by Gillespie:
<strong>he's a dinosaur reflected in his old 'hair dryer' management style <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

that's as may be, but it's always gonna be better than being French.
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Originally posted by silly dipper:
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What do you think? Is it a silly theory??</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yes
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Originally posted by forlan's_the_man:
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if you look back at Man Utd's strongest periods they've had young British players like</strong><hr></blockquote>

So we should go out and buy French ones now.
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Originally posted by forlan's_the_man:
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Yes of course, but if you look back at Man Utd's strongest periods they've had young British players like, Beckham, Giggs, Scholes, Cole, Keane (I'm counting him as practically British), Gary Neville etc. /QB]<hr></blockquote>

You say periods not period so I assume you mean several strong periods. The players you mention are all from the same period and succeeded any equally strong side. Our previous strong side (late sixties) were not young, although the lot before (Munich) were.

As a Liverpool fan you should be more worried your own performances for the next six months. Past experience is early season promise followed by a bin dip (sorry, big dip) in form and hope for next season. So far there is nothing to say this season wont be different.
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Originally posted by forlan's_the_man:
<strong>Ideally, I think all Man Utd fans would like to see this sort of thing happen</strong><hr></blockquote>

No they wouldn't.

And I think your theory is <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />

It is bad enough scousers and ABU's peddling this sort of crap about SAF but when United fans (allegedly anyway) start spouting it I begin to despair.
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Originally posted by RUnited:
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you're pathetic man.. just because poo are winning out of luck - and nothing to do with performance - you think you can criticize our players..

tell you what, dipper, our players - the ones you are criticizing - have won more trophies than all of yours combined. this experience will get us places. and this lack of experience will get you a big slump in December. sucker.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Fair enough, but I'm only criticising two of your plyers, i would never criticise players in your team I admire, like RVN, Scholes, Giggs etc.
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Ok, I never thought I'd get this sort of response. All I'm saying is that i think you need a foreign manager to succeed ferguson. Of course I'm worried about Liverpool lack of experience can always hinder a team. But lighten up, I'm not insulting you here, just putting a point across! :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by forlan's_the_man:
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Fair enough, but I'm only criticising two of your plyers, i would never criticise players in your team I admire, like RVN, Scholes, Giggs etc.</strong><hr></blockquote>

:confused:

your players...your team?

just who the feck do you support?
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Originally posted by GiggsysGirl:
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your players...your team?
just who the feck do you support?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Hes a dirty dipper, didntyou know <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
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Originally posted by forlan's_the_man:
<strong>Of course I'm worried about Liverpool lack of experience can always hinder a team.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Giggsygirl, if not previously, I thought this had completely given it away. ;)
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Originally posted by GiggsysGirl:
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what can i say? i don't really read his posts. the name's a bit odd tho doncha think? is it a "joke"?</strong><hr></blockquote>

i don't know but he's pretty funny...i guess that makes it a joke.
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Originally posted by GiggsysGirl:
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:confused:

your players...your team?

just who the feck do you support?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Liverpool, but I'm not blind I can spot a good player. :)
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Originally posted by GiggsysGirl:
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what can i say? i don't really read his posts. the name's a bit odd tho doncha think? is it a "joke"?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yeah I couldn't think of anything better, and if I put 'liverpool' or soemthing I wouldn't have been allowed in!
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Originally posted by Gillespie:
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Hey Giggsysgirl.....hardly lady like language....has it been a bad hair day? ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

get bent ;) needs a trim but the condition since i discovered Pantene's moisturising 2 in 1 is phenomenal...thanx fer asking!
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