What does this tell us ?

[Julian Denny]

Since the Treble in 1999 United have considerably under performed against major rivals in the PL and CL

In the PL ( + the Charity Shields) taking Arsenal Chelsea Leeds Liverpool and, this season only, Newcastle, as our main rivals the following stats apply against these teams over the period:

P26 W8 D6 L12 F38 A44

In the CL ( + one Super Cup against Lazio) taking Real, Bayern, Deportivo, Valencia, Fiorentina & PSV as the best teams we have played over the period the following apply:

P17 W3 D6 L8 F18 A21

Total for both:

P43 W11 D12 L20 F56 L65


These stats are quite revealing and disturbing.

 

[Murt]

since 1999 weve only won the league 2 times out of 2 and gotten to the 1/4 finals in the CL both yrs

really disturbing <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" />

 

[Julian Denny]

Originally posted by Murt:
<strong>since 1999 weve only won the league 2 times out of 2 and gotten to the 1/4 finals in the CL both yrs

really disturbing <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

You miss the point! Think about this in the context of our prospects in this years PL and CL.

 

[An Extremely Boring Man]

Originally posted by Julian Denny:
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You miss the point! Think about this in the context of our prospects in this years PL and CL.</strong><hr></blockquote>

What happened in the Chelsea away game in 1959? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">

 

[Julian Denny]

Originally posted by An Extremely Boring Man:
<strong>

What happened in the Chelsea away game in 1959? </strong><hr></blockquote>

Wednesday Evening under lights at Stamford Bridge.
66000 inside, several thousand locked outside. Long before all ticket games. Score 6 - 3 to United. Incredible experience , first time I'd been to a floodlight game and United turned on the magic that night.

 

[Murt]

Originally posted by Julian Denny:
<strong>

You miss the point! Think about this in the context of our prospects in this years PL and CL.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Premier League prospects: Top with 9 or so games to go, looking good, if it was that good every yr id be pleased.

Champions League prospects: Top of our group, just got the better of the Champions over two legs (away goals ) and into the 1/4 finals. Again id settle for that every yr too. Things could be a lot worse and indeed were just a few onths ago.
<img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" />

 

[An Extremely Boring Man]

Originally posted by Julian Denny:
<strong>

Wednesday Evening under lights at Stamford Bridge.
66000 inside, several thousand locked outside. Long before all ticket games. Score 6 - 3 to United. Incredible experience , first time I'd been to a floodlight game and United turned on the magic that night.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Sounds great! You must be an old bugger though

 

[Julian Denny]

Originally posted by An Extremely Boring Man:
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Sounds great! You must be an old bugger though
</strong><hr></blockquote>

"Ah but I was so much older then I'm younger than that now" ! (courtesy : R Zimmerman)

 

[Red99]

"Crimson flames tied thru' your ears" no doubt!