Certainly Ryan Giggs imo.
Ruud had a bad game also, although he just came back from injury.
Paul Scholes was fantastic.
Ruud had a bad game also, although he just came back from injury.
Paul Scholes was fantastic.
Weakest Link last night
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Id say Ruud.
He missed a few decent chances that could have settled the players earlier.
Giggs didnt do that bad.
You just dont like Welsh people
He missed a few decent chances that could have settled the players earlier.
Giggs didnt do that bad.
You just dont like Welsh people
Ruud, Veron & Giggs were below par last night. Stil we played well and created lots of chances.
Problem is basically we're not taking chances - especially early ones. We saw how the game opened up once we've scored twice, and if Beckham (From a super Veron pass) or Ruud would have buried their early chances the match would have been different.
I doubt if the final score would convince other teams that doing an everton and playing for a point is a wrong move against us.
I doubt if the final score would convince other teams that doing an everton and playing for a point is a wrong move against us.
Mickey Silvestre had an unsually bad game. Seemed unsure, hesitated and got caught with the ball a couple of times. Passed the ball straight to the opposition too, on more than one occasion.
But we won, who cares.
And let's not forget the contribution Mickey made to some of the goals earlier in the season with his runs down the wing.
Ruud, probably not match fit, but what about his penalties? Keepers know he loves tucking it to their right-side, but he still manages to beat them with pace. Fingers crossed, long may that continue.
But we won, who cares.
And let's not forget the contribution Mickey made to some of the goals earlier in the season with his runs down the wing.
Ruud, probably not match fit, but what about his penalties? Keepers know he loves tucking it to their right-side, but he still manages to beat them with pace. Fingers crossed, long may that continue.
I thought Silvestre was the weakest link last night. He did nothing well all night from what i can remember.
Thought Veron was poor last night as well. That was his first bad game of the season though.
Thought Veron was poor last night as well. That was his first bad game of the season though.
Ruud wasnt up to his usual standard but he wasnt 100% fit.When he misses you can see how p'ed off he is with himself,he really does want it( <img src="graemlins/smirk.gif" border="0" alt="[Smirk]" /> ).Lets face it,an unfir Ruud would still be the best player in a lot of prem teams.
Ryan had a bad game but as above.
We should have been about 7-0,at times looked like we'd go 0-0.
3 goals,3 points and no injuries
(who was Ruud blowing kisses too? <img src="graemlins/nervous.gif" border="0" alt="[Nervous]" /> )
Ryan had a bad game but as above.
We should have been about 7-0,at times looked like we'd go 0-0.
3 goals,3 points and no injuries
(who was Ruud blowing kisses too? <img src="graemlins/nervous.gif" border="0" alt="[Nervous]" /> )I had a great seat last night, NT1 just to the right of the half way line.
Most of the team looked tired which was worrying. We created chances but we were too casual in the last third to make them count.
Becks, Giggs, Ruud, Butt and Veron were all below par.
Gary, Larry and JOS were superb. Fab was there when needed.
Special praise reserved for MOM Paul Scholes (he scores goals dont you know), there's no way on this Earth we'd have won without him.
Still not firing on all cylinders but 6 out of 6 is impressive form. Nice break then down to Fulham to keep things rolling.
Most of the team looked tired which was worrying. We created chances but we were too casual in the last third to make them count.
Becks, Giggs, Ruud, Butt and Veron were all below par.
Gary, Larry and JOS were superb. Fab was there when needed.
Special praise reserved for MOM Paul Scholes (he scores goals dont you know), there's no way on this Earth we'd have won without him.
Still not firing on all cylinders but 6 out of 6 is impressive form. Nice break then down to Fulham to keep things rolling.
Veron....
how anyone can say anyone other than Veron is beyond me
how anyone can say anyone other than Veron is beyond me
Veron.
yes, below par, but I can't help feeling if it was Thiery Henry at centre forward, he would have got at the end of some of the passes that Veron threaded into the channels.
I'll wash my mouth out with soap now.
Seriously, Ruud never seemed to anticipate anything, and looked rather flat footed. He did not even read some of the flick-ons by Giggsy and Scholesy.
But, as has been mentioned before, he's probably not match fit, and may still be feeling his hammy.
yes, below par, but I can't help feeling if it was Thiery Henry at centre forward, he would have got at the end of some of the passes that Veron threaded into the channels.
I'll wash my mouth out with soap now.
Seriously, Ruud never seemed to anticipate anything, and looked rather flat footed. He did not even read some of the flick-ons by Giggsy and Scholesy.
But, as has been mentioned before, he's probably not match fit, and may still be feeling his hammy.
Originally posted by Rams:
<strong>Veron....
how anyone can say anyone other than Veron is beyond me
Veron was poor but Mickey was worse. Isn't Mickey carrying an injury at the moment. He played like he was.
Originally posted by Rams:
<strong>Veron....
how anyone can say anyone other than Veron is beyond me
I've come to not expect anything great from Veron. He'll always suffer in Premiership games where the tempo is much faster than in the CL.
Micky is a defender, anything good coming forward is a bonus.
Ryan was abysmal at times. How many times did he get the ball at the byline only to screw up his crosses?
Becks didn't have a good game either, but the guy worked his bollocks off, and at least he tracks down.
Ruud... is unfit. He needs a couple of goals from open play, and he'll be allright.
I say it is the formation. Against weaker teams and at home, we should play 4-4-2 with Veron on the bench
I know we scored in the last 5 mins with 3 great goals - and I honour the team for that, and I know David Beckham honoured the crowd during his interview (as they deserved) but bear in mind the following:
None of you seem to be mentioning the fact that Beckham was WAY below par tonight (or I'd say on par with all his WAY below par performances since the middle of last season) - but why does this blindness not surprise me
Fine we scored 3 goals, but had we been asked our opinions up until the point when Scholes hit the net for the first time, I wonder how different our opinions would have been.
What angered me most about last night was when Beckham was running with the ball, coming inside from the right wing. He didn't even loose posession, and suddenly out of nowhere took a dive. It wasn't just a normal well acted dive, it was an abysmal effort to try and get a free kick in a spot he may have been able to score from. That, to me, is CHEAP. The referee was wise to it (and should have booked him) and the ball ended up being sent up to an Everton player in the United half.
I remember at least 3 times turning to BHManUNut after Beckham had made a cock up saying "Had Veron done that the Red Cafe would have used it to hang his balls." Beckham had some wonderful touches last night, but on a whole was poor.
So in context to this thread and in context to the usuals who are mouthing off about Veron; true to say he played below par, but so did Beckham, and it would be a damn site more refreshing to see some people on here slate him for a change.
Feck at least Veron wasn't attempting to cheat.
None of you seem to be mentioning the fact that Beckham was WAY below par tonight (or I'd say on par with all his WAY below par performances since the middle of last season) - but why does this blindness not surprise me
Fine we scored 3 goals, but had we been asked our opinions up until the point when Scholes hit the net for the first time, I wonder how different our opinions would have been.
What angered me most about last night was when Beckham was running with the ball, coming inside from the right wing. He didn't even loose posession, and suddenly out of nowhere took a dive. It wasn't just a normal well acted dive, it was an abysmal effort to try and get a free kick in a spot he may have been able to score from. That, to me, is CHEAP. The referee was wise to it (and should have booked him) and the ball ended up being sent up to an Everton player in the United half.
I remember at least 3 times turning to BHManUNut after Beckham had made a cock up saying "Had Veron done that the Red Cafe would have used it to hang his balls." Beckham had some wonderful touches last night, but on a whole was poor.
So in context to this thread and in context to the usuals who are mouthing off about Veron; true to say he played below par, but so did Beckham, and it would be a damn site more refreshing to see some people on here slate him for a change.
Feck at least Veron wasn't attempting to cheat.
Mickey has his worst game of the season so far.
Ruud worked hard last nite but it didn't happen for him and his movement was unusually poor in the second half.
Ruud worked hard last nite but it didn't happen for him and his movement was unusually poor in the second half.
Off topic but O'Shea was great...yet again
It should be Veron again, with Giggs and Micky also below par. Anyone who said Beckham played badly is beyond me. I don't see Scholes played any better than him besides the goal, and if that chip from Becks has gone in instead of hitting the bar he would even have been MOM. I didn't have the true statistic, but in my impression Beckham was the player who ran the most, get the ball the most and tried the hardest. I'm angry that some so called "fans" can accuse our own captain as cheater. I know some Veron supporters like to critize everyone else in order to protect Veron, but face it, if Veron has tried half as hard as Beckham yesterday, he would not have lasted only 60 minutes on the field!
Criticism of how poor Ruud's touch & contribution was is slowly emerging - I'm not surprised as Ruud's always had a poor first touch & for a man of his height & build, he's a very poor targetman. Apart from his goal-getting instincts, he hasn't much else to show.
Ironically, he seemed to have emerged from his faults in his 2 prior games when he showed deft touches & some aerial ability, but he sunk back to his normal self again last night!
Scholes was heaped with praises against Olympiakos last week & how he starred in the role of 'the hole' behind the sole striker.
Last night, he was unexceptional for the 1st 60 minutes, yet when Ole came on, the whole pattern of the game changed!
Ruud seemed re-charged & started playing like a natural winger with a couple of good dribbles & crosses from the right, Becks put in a couple of great crosses, & Scholes again showed International form!
Morale of the story?
Ole shud be the sole striker in Fergie's 4-4-1-1 system - he plays the role very well ( Norway uses him in that role ) & Scholes is his ideal foil, a role he was very uncomfortable in when he played behind Ruud last season!
While Ruud is 'recovering', he shud come in as super-sub, as seen when he inspired United at Charlton last week & at Villa in last season's FA Cup Tie!
Ironically, he seemed to have emerged from his faults in his 2 prior games when he showed deft touches & some aerial ability, but he sunk back to his normal self again last night!
Scholes was heaped with praises against Olympiakos last week & how he starred in the role of 'the hole' behind the sole striker.
Last night, he was unexceptional for the 1st 60 minutes, yet when Ole came on, the whole pattern of the game changed!
Ruud seemed re-charged & started playing like a natural winger with a couple of good dribbles & crosses from the right, Becks put in a couple of great crosses, & Scholes again showed International form!
Morale of the story?
Ole shud be the sole striker in Fergie's 4-4-1-1 system - he plays the role very well ( Norway uses him in that role ) & Scholes is his ideal foil, a role he was very uncomfortable in when he played behind Ruud last season!
While Ruud is 'recovering', he shud come in as super-sub, as seen when he inspired United at Charlton last week & at Villa in last season's FA Cup Tie!