WC All Stars Chain Draft SF: harms vs idmanager

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

VS

...................................... TEAM HARMS .................................................................................... TEAM IDMANAGER ..................................


TEAM HARMS

TACTICS

4-2-3-1 with a fluid attacking unit. Lionel Messi plays in a free role on the right wing, with Amoros providing overlaps and width when Messi drifts inside. On the other flank Kempes plays in his 1978 role, starting from the left and moving forward to join Gerd Müller in the box. Sir Bobby Charlton plays in his usual central role with a freedom to move left, like he did so often (he played as a left winger in the beginning of his career and in 1962 World Cup, so it was natural for him to move to that side).

The rest of my team is pretty much straightforward — Matthäus as an all-mighty midfield dynamo with 2 times World Cup winner Zito staying back. Nilton and Amoros are balanced fullbacks with licence to go forward (one at a time). And Cannavaro-Figueroa-Kahn, all at the peak of their powers, create an unbeatable defensive unit.

I also want to highlight the enormous amount of goals that I have in my team (and different routs to a goal).
Müller - 10 goals in 1970
Kempes - 6 goals in 1978
Messi - 4 goals in 2014
Matthäus - 4 goals in 1990
Charlton - 3 goals in 1966

Lots of my players are known to rise on the occasion — Müller's goals in the final (imagine having him in place of Higuain!) and semi-finals; Charlton's brace against Portugal, Kempes' brace against Netherlands in the final, Zito's Golden goal... etc.

Spoiler: Best big-game goalscorers of all-time

HEAD TO HEAD

- Gerd Müller scored a winning goal in an epic come back against Bobby Moore's England in 1970
- Zito had a very good game against Masopust in the 1962 final (footage below), both scored (Zito scored the winner)

FOOTAGE

Lothar Matthäus — 1990 World Cup
Bobby Charlton — semi-final against Portugal, final against West Germany
Fabio Cannavaro — semi-final against Germany, final against France
Elías Figueroa — against West Germany
Nilton Santos — semi-final against France
Manuel Amoros — against Brazil
Gerd Müller — 1970 World Cup goals
Oliver Kahn — 2002 World Cup
Lionel Messi — 2014 World Cup, final against Germany
Mario Kempes — against Poland, final against Netherlands
Zito — final against Czechoslovakia

PLAYER PROFILES

Spoiler

Gerd Müller — 1970 World Cup

Team accomplishment: 3rd place
Individual accomplishments: Golden Boot, Bronze Ball, Ballon d’Or and Team of the Tournament
Summary: 10 goals and 3 assists in — a historic performance by the German striker, arguably the greatest by any #9 in World Cup’s history. And while Pele’s key role in Brazil’s World Cup winning side (that is widely recognised as the best team in history) saw him winning the Golden Ball of 1970 tournament ahead of Gerd Müller, he later received Ballon d’Or as the best player in Europe.



Mario Kempes — 1978 World Cup

Team accomplishment: Winners
Individual accomplishments: Golden Boot, Golden Ball, South American Footballer of the Year and Team of the Tournament
Summary: When France Football decided to have a revaluation of old Ballon d’Ors (those that had not included players from outside of Europe yet), unsurprisingly Kempes topped the list of 1978 — and there were no questions on who was the best player in the world at that time. With 6 goals Kempes won the Golden Boot but more importantly, he won the first World Cup for Argentina.



Lionel Messi — 2014 World Cup

Team accomplishment: 2nd place
Individual accomplishments: Golden Ball and Team of the Tournament
Summary: 4 MotM awards, Most chances created, most successful dribbles (46 — 17 more than the 2nd placed Robben and only 4 less than 1986 Maradona). Perhaps not a vintage performance, but he would've won the World Cup if it was Gerd Müller instead of Gonzalo Higuain up front.



Bobby Charlton — 1966 World Cup

Team accomplishment: Winners
Individual accomplishments: Golden Ball, Ballon D’Or, Team of the Tournament and FIFA World Cup All-Time Team
Summary: Not yet a Sir, in 1966 Bobby Charlton led England to their first and only World Cup win, securing his legacy as England’s best ever player. He proved to be the linchpin of the «Wingless Wanders» — and he wasn’t just a goalscorer, as Alf Ramsey noticed, but he also could do his share of hard work.



Lothar Matthäus — 1990 World Cup

Team accomplishment: Winners
Individual accomplishments: Silver Ball, Ballon d'Or, Footballer of the Year in Germany and Team of the Tournament
Summary: In 1990 Lothar Matthäus produced probably the best midfield performance in World Cup's history, he played a key role in finally winning the World Cup for Germany after losing 2 consecutive finals. In the final he marked (again) Diego Maradona, who will later name him as «the best rival I've ever had»


Zito — 1962 World Cup

Team accomplishment: Winners
Individual accomplishments: Team of the Tournament
Summary: Zito played key part in Brazil’s back to back World Cup titles in 1958 and 1962, providing much needed balance for their flamboyant attack. It can be argued that Zito and Zagallo were more crucial to the team’s overall balance than their more talented partners like Garrincha, Didi, Pele etc. — and it’s pretty much impossible to find a defensive midfielder with a better World Cup pedigree than Zito. He was also a leader and a father-like figure for Pele, with whom he played not only for the national team, but also for Santos.



Nilton Santos — 1958 World Cup

Team accomplishment: Winners
Individual accomplishments: Team of the Tournament
Summary: Widely regarded as one of the best fullbacks in history of the game (he was included in the World Team of the 20th Century), Nilton Santos won 2 World Cup with Brazil. At 1958 he was at his best — a masterful defender, nicknamed «The Encyclopedia», he was world class both at defending and attacking and possessed very good technique.



Elías Figueroa — 1974 World Cup

Team accomplishment: Group stage
Individual accomplishments: Team of the Tournament, South American Footballer of the Year, Best Defender of the Tournament (according to fifa.com)
Summary: Elías Figueroa may have been unlucky to play for an international side that never competed for any major honours, but in 1974 World Cup he proved his highest individual level — at Germany 1974, he was hailed as the competition’s best defender and named alongside Franz Beckenbauer at centre-back in the tournament's Best XI. He is the best South American defender in history, and at 1974 he was at his absolute best — from 1974 to 1976 he was named South American Footballer of the Year 3 consecutive times (following no other than Pele himself), a record matched only by Zico and Tevez, and an incredible achievement for a defender.




Fabio Cannavaro — 2006 World Cup

Team accomplishment: Winners
Individual accomplishments: Silver Ball, Ballon d’Or, World Player of the Year and Team of the Tournament
Summary: In 7 games of 2006 World Cup Italy conceded just 2 goals — an own goal and a penalty. Fabio Cannavaro produced an all-time great performance, playing each minute of every match, marshalling Italian defence and earning himself a nickname «The Wall of Berlin». No point in expanding the write up as I’m sure that all of you have seen that World Cup live.



Manuel Amoros — 1986 World Cup

Team accomplishment: 3rd place
Individual accomplishments: French Player of the Year, Team of the Tournament, Ballon d’Or — 4th place
Summary: A less glamorous name than Cafu or Djalma, but such an outstanding defender. He was the best defender of the tournament (and 7th best player of the tournament according to the Golden Ball vote) — mostly playing on the right but sometimes featuring on the left or even centrally. A magnificent defender first, he was also a great attacking presence, tireless and skillful — France usually played with 4 central midfielders which left the whole wing for him, and he thrived in that system.

Oliver Kahn — 2002 World Cup

Team accomplishment: 2nd place
Individual accomplishments: Golden Ball, Golden Glove, Team of the Tournament and 3rd in Ballon d’Or vote
Summary: During 2002 World Cup, in which Kahn was Germany’s first choice goalkeeper, Kahn conceded just three goals, keeping five clean sheets and becoming the only goalkeeper to be named the tournament’s best player. Again — I think most of you are familiar with that World Cup and I don’t need to sell him further.

TEAM IDMANAGER


Defense and Midfield:

The defense and midfield has 6 players, all of whom won the WC in their respective years playing integral roles for their teams.
4 out of these 6 were the captains of their respective team.

Moore and Nasazzi continue in the centre of the defense. Brehme and Lahm are the LB and RB.
And we have a 2 man pivot in Monti and Varela to sniff everything coming through the central areas.

Attack:

The front 4 remains the same.
All four of them played in their respective WC finals.
Czibor, Sarosi and Jairzinho scored in their respective finals as well.
Making it all work together with them is Cruyff 1974.

Tactics:

I expect the opposition to have a narrow attack no matter which formation they start with.
So the idea is to stop everything through the central and inside forward zones.

Brehme and Lahm both will have defensive and attacking duties. Both are well capable of playing both the roles at the highest of levels.
Considering both were good at bringing the ball out inwards as well as along the flanks, they would be great outlets to start the attacks.

Czibor+Brehme and Jairzinho+Lahm will make sure that the opposition full backs think twice before attacking.
The idea is to strangle width available to the opposition through and constantly keep the wingbacks engaged in 2 v 1 scenarios.

Czibor and Jairzinho will constantly try to get into goal scoring positions by moving centrally as they so often did.

Cruyff has a free role and is the player to move it all along, be it starting attacks from deep, bringing others into the game, drifting out wide, finishing of the moves, etc.
A role he would cherish here.

With so much supply from the wing, Sarosi would be ideal to utilize all the supply and score as he did in all games of the World Cup in 1938.
He also continues with his role in the last game of constantly exchanging roles with Cruyff to confuse/break the central defense and midfield pivots of the opposition, spoiling their shape throughout the game

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

@harms @idmanager All the best!

 

[2mufc0]

I like the way @harms team is shaping up here, improving greatly round by round.

 

[Šjor Bepo]

#justice4conti

 

[Jim Beam]

Strange, while I am being logged out, I can see a current score (didn't even vote so far). Anyone see the same?

 

[Gio]

Two great teams and nearly impossible to separate.

Harms might now have the best central defensive, midfield and striker performer running through his spine. Shame to see Conti sacrificed presumably for the winners' requirement, but Messi in 2014 is as good a like-for-like replacement around.

Idmanager though looks solid all over. Arguably the two most defining holding midfielders in World Cup history and you could not ask for a better pair to keep tabs on Matthaus and Charlton. Supreme centre-half partnership too and dominating full-back pairing.

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

Sarosi being the only enigma here.

 

[Theon]

Strange, while I am being logged out, I can see a current score (didn't even vote so far). Anyone see the same?

Yep, never seen that in a poll before. Weird.

 

[harms]

#justice4conti

Blame crappy, I wanted to field him as a Brazilian But fielding Matthäus meant that I have to field 1 more South American

edit: and a non-winner too — forgot about that, I've only remembered the combinations of players that would work together as an upgrade.

 

[harms]

To be honest I preferred that team with Masopust. Feels weird to see Cruyff in a "Brazilian" system. Not sure if it's an actual term in English — the opposite of total football, when you have 6 (for example) strictly defensive players and 4 pure attackers.

 

[idmanager]

To be honest I preferred that team with Masopust. Feels weird to see Cruyff in a "Brazilian" system. Not sure if it's an actual term in English — the opposite of total football, when you have 6 (for example) strictly defensive players and 4 pure attackers.

The Varela pick was made to play a WM in the final (if I made it luckily) as a sort of tribute to Sarosi (Hungary 38 was the WW variant).

If only some of these cnuts voted for me

 

[harms]

The Varela pick was made to play a WM in the final (if I made it luckily) as a sort of tribute to Sarosi (Hungary 38 was the WW variant).

If only some of these cnuts voted for me

Yeah, for WM they make perfect sense

 

[Ecstatic]

@harms

Good and impressive work regarding the videos but I can't see the Zito video for example 'ongoing publication'

 

[Enigma_87]

Sarosi being the only enigma here.

Hi.

 

[harms]

@harms

Good and impressive work regarding the videos but I can't see the Zito video for example 'ongoing publication'

Odd, I'll try to reupload it later today, maybe on vemeo instead of the dailymotion.

To be honest, only Amoros, Figueroa and Zito were made by me, and Figueroa's one is quite old.

 

[Ecstatic]

Odd, I'll try to reupload it later today, maybe on vemeo instead of the dailymotion.

To be honest, only Amoros, Figueroa and Zito were made by me, and Figueroa's one is quite old.

The Dailymotion video about Zito works now

 

[Don Alfredo]

Very hard to seperate the sides, two very good defensive efforts. Can't realistically expect any side to score against those central defenders and midfielders.

I see just one primary route to goal here for each team. For harms the route is testing N'Kono with as many long shots as possible from Charlton, Matthaus and Messi. Muller has the perfect positioning to get on rebounds in front of everyone else.

idmanager has the advantage on the flanks, I can easily see Czibor, Brehme and Cruyff overloading the left side and breaking through with dribblings or whipping dangerous crosses into the box for Sarosi and Jairzinho. Still, Kahn is great at coming out, Lothar has fantastic work rate to help Amoros and Cannavaro is playing on his side, arguably the top CB in this draft.

These are very thin margins and I had to decide on some weaker reasons. For one, Figueroa should not be rated like his usual GOAT status. He only had 3 games and although he played well, you can't give the same points for 3 and out versus Moore, Nasazzi and Cannavaro literally leading their sides to World Cup glory.

Plus, the keepers will be a deciding factor in this game of close calls and I will never forget Kahn for his performance in the final Germany's keepers aren't supposed to be jokes

The last reason why I voted for idmanager was I like that he built a team out of very old players, only two outfield players from after 1974 and 3 players from the 30s means the players can gel better and are used to broadly similar environments, playing styles and tactics.

Propz to idmanager again for sticking with Sarosi, other people replace Zico as soon as possible ffs. And that WM is beautiful, put Djalma and Yashin in there and it's close to perfection.

 

[idmanager]

Very hard to seperate the sides, two very good defensive efforts. Can't realistically expect any side to score against those central defenders and midfielders.

I see just one primary route to goal here for each team. For harms the route is testing N'Kono with as many long shots as possible from Charlton, Matthaus and Messi. Muller has the perfect positioning to get on rebounds in front of everyone else.

idmanager has the advantage on the flanks, I can easily see Czibor, Brehme and Cruyff overloading the left side and breaking through with dribblings or whipping dangerous crosses into the box for Sarosi and Jairzinho. Still, Kahn is great at coming out, Lothar has fantastic work rate to help Amoros and Cannavaro is playing on his side, arguably the top CB in this draft.

These are very thin margins and I had to decide on some weaker reasons. For one, Figueroa should not be rated like his usual GOAT status. He only had 3 games and although he played well, you can't give the same points for 3 and out versus Moore, Nasazzi and Cannavaro literally leading their sides to World Cup glory.

Plus, the keepers will be a deciding factor in this game of close calls and I will never forget Kahn for his performance in the final Germany's keepers aren't supposed to be jokes

The last reason why I voted for idmanager was I like that he built a team out of very old players, only two outfield players from after 1974 and 3 players from the 30s means the players can gel better and are used to broadly similar environments, playing styles and tactics.

Propz to idmanager again for sticking with Sarosi, other people replace Zico as soon as possible ffs. And that WM is beautiful, put Djalma and Yashin in there and it's close to perfection.

Cheers mate. Fair analysis of both the teams.
You should participate in one of the next drafts.

 

[idmanager]

Sorry @harms I couldn't give a better game from the start as the 10-0 scoreline kind of made me not see a way back

Below is my take on the game:

Team Harms:

1. The opposition attack (front 4) is very narrow with all the 3 behind Muller performing their best from the central areas in their respective world cups.
2. The defense and MF of my team were built to nullify this and its undeniable that its of the highest quality.
3. With an already clustered central area, I don't expect Matthaus to get too much space going forward and be the B2B rampaging self he was in 1990.
4. Figueroa is quite clearly being considered a GOAT here by the voters when he never played a knock out game in the world cup. No matter how good he was in the group stages, in the context of the draft, he has no experience playing the games that matter in the WC. It would have been understandable if he had miraculously gotten Chile out of the group stages and got knocked out in the next round.
5. I don't know how Nilton and Amoros would be able to push forward without risking being punished by my flanks which surely are the best in the draft's context.
6. A team that sorely needs width surely is at a disadvantage here

Team Idmanager

1. Saying Cruyff can't perform in this system is not correct. He has all the space for himself and as much of the ball he needs considering there are no other ball hoggers in the team. Considering his tendency to roam and create chances on his own at times, he will be a match winner here. Especially with players who were well versed with playing the supporting role. Czibor and Jairzinho were'nt the main men of their teams but had exceptional world cups in their supporting roles
2. Brehme and Lahm are really key here. Both not only will try to engage the opposition wingbacks in 2 vs 1 scenarios but give opportunities to the likes of Czibor and Jairzinho to constantly move centrally into goal scoring areas. Lets not forget Czibor and Jairzinho were excellent goal scorers. Both scored in both semis and finals of the world cup.
3. The 2nd inward arrow on both Lahm and Brehme seem to have been ignored. Its not a Brazilian setup in a sense that the full backs are way more versatile than just running up and down the flanks. Anyone who has watched the 1990 and 2014 world cups would agree, especially with Lahm.
4. N'kono had a great 1982 world cup and conceded just 1 goal in group stages. That was in a group that included Italy the winners and Poland that finished 3rd in the WC. Funnily enough Figueroa conceded more goals than N'kono. Why Figueroa is given leeway and N'kono is considered a liability, I dunno. Probably the shiny name having more weight that the WC context of the draft.

Game winning strategy:
My defense and midfield is built to nullify the key areas of strength of Harms' team
My attack's key strengths (wings) don't seem to run into a block and will prosper.

 

[idmanager]

Tagging a few who might want to revisit their vote

@oneniltothearsenal @Joga Bonito @Pat_Mustard @MJJ @Theon

 

[idmanager]

Didn't tage @2mufc0 because I have Sarosi

 

[harms]

1. The opposition attack (front 4) is very narrow with all the 3 behind Muller performing their best from the central areas in their respective world cups.

It's a lazy and not really fair criticism. I've linked enough footage of all of them to disprove this

 

[idmanager]

It's a lazy and not really fair criticism. I've linked enough footage of all of them to disprove this

I don't think so. Drifting out wide once is while is different from where their best performances came from.

If you are saying Kempes performed as well from the left like he did from the central areas, its just untrue.

You can check your own footage for reference.

 

[idmanager]

I'll let the neutrals watch the below footage Harms provided of Kempes to decide how much he contributed from outwide and where his best came from

 

[harms]

4. N'kono had a great 1982 world cup and conceded just 1 goal in group stages. That was in a group that included Italy the winners and Poland that finished 3rd in the WC. Funnily enough Figueroa conceded more goals than N'kono. Why Figueroa is given leeway and N'kono is considered a liability, I dunno. Probably the shiny name having more weight that the WC context of the draft.

4. Figueroa is quite clearly being considered a GOAT here by the voters when he never played a knock out game in the world cup. No matter how good he was in the group stages, in the context of the draft, he has no experience playing the games that matter in the WC. It would have been understandable if he had miraculously gotten Chile out of the group stages and got knocked out in the next round.

You don't see any contradictions? Figueroa, unlike N'Kono, produced one of the best individual performances in Word Cup history, and was named the best defender of the tournament ahead of Beckenbauer, Krol and Breitner

 

[idmanager]

You don't see any contradictions? Figueroa, unlike N'Kono, produced one of the best individual performances in Word Cup history, and was named the best defender of the tournament ahead of Beckenbauer, Krol and Breitner

Unlike N'kono? He did concede lesser goals than Figueroa and was the main reason for his team's defensive performances that WC.
Just because he is not a shiny name, doesn't make his performances any less spectacular.

 

[2mufc0]

Didn't tage @2mufc0 because I have Sarosi

But seriously i think this match is a good example of lack of footage not helping your cause, while we have nothing on Sarosi his opposite number Muller has plenty of material to be judged on, and most people will chose him over Sarosi (and rightly so imo) as we have far more tangible evidence to support his abilities.

 

[2mufc0]

Agree with @idmanager Kempes, as i recall he spent most of the time making surging runs from midfield/inside left positions centrally, can't remember him going out wide much and getting crosses in (and why would you want him to that that in the first place?).

 

[harms]

Agree with @idmanager Kempes, as i recall he spent most of the time making surging runs from midfield/inside left positions centrally, can't remember him going out wide much and getting crosses in (and why would you want him to that that in the first place?).

And why would I want him to do it?

On the other flank Kempes plays in his 1978 role, starting from the left and moving forward to join Gerd Müller in the box.

I have Nilton Santos — one of the finest attacking left backs in history, and Amoros who excelled in carre magique France without a winger ahead of him. Don't tell me that inverted wingers with overlapping defenders don't work — pretty much every team today plays like this.

 

[idmanager]

But seriously i think this match is a good example of lack of footage not helping your cause, while we have nothing on Sarosi his opposite number Muller has plenty of material to be judged on, and most people will chose him over Sarosi (and rightly so imo) as we have far more tangible evidence to support his abilities.

Yea, its a lesson learnt.

But I had decided way too early during the drafting phase itself that I would build my team's spine around Nasazzi-Monti-Sarosi. So didn't want to tinker with that part.

 

[Ecstatic]

Mixed feelings.

Harms has a strong track record but some of his players used evolved in a very different context at world cup.

One team has 4 players of the 30s-40s hard to be assessed even if they are legendary against 0 for the opposing side.

 

[harms]

Harms has a strong track record but some of his players used evolved in a very different context at world cup.

Would you care to elaborate? I can't say that I fully understand it.

 

[Ecstatic]

Would you care to elaborate? I can't say that I fully understand it.

At first sight, my understanding is Kempes, Matthäus and Charlton were the main driving force at the heart of the game in the chosen competitions so some of these players may be restricted like Matthäus who will have to be much more conservative than in 1990.

But after some thought, it's fair to think each of these players would have a similar impact.

The challenge for IDmanager is opposite: Cruyff would be the uncontested King but Varela-Monti won't support him offensively. That said, Brehme and Lahm are very interesting from a tactical standpoint given the opposition.

Kempes & Messi prefer to cut inside while Czibor & Jairzinho are much more winger.

Interesting game because the strategies are very different in spite of appearances.

 

[idmanager]

Kempes & Messi prefer to cut inside while Czibor & Jairzinho are much more winger.

Even keeping Matthaus out of it, do you think the setup would being the best out of Kempes or Messi with Charlton in the same areas based on their WC's?

Its not that teams playing 4-2-3-1 didn't have inverted wingers, but Messi in 2014 and Kempes in 1978 were no where near being inverted wingers or forwards.

 

[idmanager]

Re posting the point that has been ignored so far in the thread but carries great importance to Harms' system working

I don't know how Nilton and Amoros would be able to push forward without risking being punished by my flanks which surely are the best in the draft's context.

My attack's key strengths (wingers and attacking fullbacks) don't seem to run into a block and will prosper against the attacking wingbacks.

This was a game that needed Conti

 

[Ecstatic]

Even keeping Matthaus out of it, do you think the setup would being the best out of Kempes or Messi with Charlton in the same areas based on their WC's?

Its not that teams playing 4-2-3-1 didn't have inverted wingers, but Messi in 2014 and Kempes in 1978 were no where near being inverted wingers or forwards.

Will answer tonight but each team has its advantages.

 

[Gio]

The challenge for IDmanager is opposite: Cruyff would be the uncontested King but Varela-Monti won't support him offensively. That said, Brehme and Lahm are very interesting from a tactical standpoint given the opposition.

Kempes & Messi prefer to cut inside while Czibor & Jairzinho are much more winger.

Yeah. For me the quality is about even in both teams and, although there are a couple of minor head-to-heads where an advantage could be engineered, there is nothing particularly clear cut. Given the relative narrowness of harms attack and the lack of sexy football in idmanager's midfield duo, it's clear that both pairs of full-backs would be heavily involved in the build up. Ultimately I thought idmanager's square of death (@antohan) is more likely to resist the central runs of Charlton and Matthaus and the in-cutting of Kempes and Messi.

I have Nilton Santos — one of the finest attacking left backs in history, and Amoros who excelled in carre magique France without a winger ahead of him. Don't tell me that inverted wingers with overlapping defenders don't work — pretty much every team today plays like this.

True, especially with a Zito/Matthaus base.

 

[idmanager]

And why would I want him to do it?


I have Nilton Santos — one of the finest attacking left backs in history, and Amoros who excelled in carre magique France without a winger ahead of him. Don't tell me that inverted wingers with overlapping defenders don't work — pretty much every team today plays like this.

I missed this. Kempes was no where near a inverted winger in 1978. I am starting to doubt if you watched the footage before posting mate.

Messi 2014 while can play that role, he is not a setup or around players where he could stamp his authority on the game.

Sure the players are fine, but they surely are not going to get the best out of each other. Unlike in my system where players are tailor made for each position there are way too many overlaps in harms' team IMO.

 

[idmanager]

Teams in the same formation.

Clearly shows where the oppositions's best attackers run into while where my wingers are going to be crucial with so much space.

Still can't understand how Nilton and Amoros are expected to defend against those wings while still providing width

 

[MJJ]

Changed my vote after reading the discussion and watching the footage of kempes.