Victor Boniface - Leverkusen

I really hope we look at a PL-proven striker this time. I’m not saying we can go and get Isak, but both players like Joao Pedro and Mathues Cunha should be within reach. Maybe even Duran if we get to see more of him this season.
 
Proven Premier league striker for me. Go to Saudi and bring Toney back, I'm sure he will already be sick of being forgotten about and he's had six months of mega no tax wages.
 
Really like him and he'd seem a good fit for the prem. Physically great but also wonderful ball control.
 
I like him. United should be buying a striker in January.
 
GledTheRed said:
Need to keep an eye on Delap after yesterday's performance, everything I want Hojlund to be.
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Agreed, aside yesterday I have watched Ipswich here and there throughout games and he's a standout quality. All round player with the type of versatility to his game that's needed among United's forward line.

Also in unison with other posters who have mentioned talent in the league, between Delap, Cunha and Pedro those all improve United's attack quite drastically.

The next transfer movements should be a striker, left winger and right winger. Garnacho on the bench for the left and a decent player to rotate with Diallo.

Rashford at this point should be out the picture regardless of who's acquired.
 
Redstain said:
Agreed, aside yesterday I have watched Ipswich here and there throughout games and he's a standout quality. All round player with the type of versatility to his game that's needed among United's forward line.

Also in unison with other posters who have mentioned talent in the league, between Delap, Cunha and Pedro those all improve United's attack quite drastically.

The next transfer movements should be a striker, left winger and right winger. Garnacho on the bench for the left and a decent player to rotate with Diallo.

Rashford at this point should be out the picture regardless of who's acquired.
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Couldn't agree more.
 
Redstain said:
Agreed, aside yesterday I have watched Ipswich here and there throughout games and he's a standout quality. All round player with the type of versatility to his game that's needed among United's forward line.

Also in unison with other posters who have mentioned talent in the league, between Delap, Cunha and Pedro those all improve United's attack quite drastically.

The next transfer movements should be a striker, left winger and right winger. Garnacho on the bench for the left and a decent player to rotate with Diallo.

Rashford at this point should be out the picture regardless of who's acquired.
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I get that Diallo is a bit a novelty right now given he's clearly better than ETH lead us to believe he was, but you're been harsh to say Diallo should be starting and Garnacho be benched at this point.
 
Looked good when I've seen him, good age, and good stats.
 
Despite his great season last time, I've never been fully convinced by him. More technical and creative than Lukaku but can similar problems in terms of miscontrols and missing easy chances. Can be quite frustrating to watch some days where the ball seems to be bouncing off his foot.
 
Mix of goal scorer and creator rather than a great goalscorer

Really good player, not sure we need the mix of 14 goals and 8 assists over a 20-30 goal a season striker though
 
This formation is crying out for someone who just wants to smash the ball in the back of the net. Not that I’d want us to sign someone who can’t contribute a bit more than a Haaland slug, but we need someone who wants to score more than anything else.
 
Ekeke said:
Mix of goal scorer and creator rather than a great goalscorer

Really good player, not sure we need the mix of 14 goals and 8 assists over a 20-30 goal a season striker though
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Worth noting those 14 goals came in just 23 games, 18 of which were starts.

His per 90 return rate was 0.81, which in the PL last season would put him ahead of all the top strikers bar Haaland and Isak.

Those stats were inflated by penalties slightly, and it's the German League, but even still I wouldn't just take the 14 goal season total at face value. He's been a better goalscorer than it suggests.
 
sullydnl said:
Worth noting those 14 goals came in just 23 games, 18 of which were starts.

His per 90 return rate was 0.81, which in the PL last season would put him ahead of all the top strikers bar Haaland and Isak.

Those stats were inflated by penalties slightly, and it's the German League, but even still I wouldn't just take the 14 goal season total at face value. He's been a better goalscorer than it suggests.
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Yeah thats fair, but also worth mentioning then that hes missed plenty of games
 
Ekeke said:
Yeah thats fair, but also worth mentioning then that hes missed plenty of games
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Fair to mention that as well, but at least it was only one (severe) muscle injury, it's not as if he carried a knock every other week. So not a season that makes me worry about his ability to stay fit in general.
 
From what I have seen of him, which isn't a huge amount, he doesn't look like the answer to our problems up front.
 
The limited times I have watched him, he has physical presence, slow and not enough of good movement for utd to go for him. I would prefer schick for stop gap or go all out for gyokeres/osimhen im summer
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
I get that Diallo is a bit a novelty right now given he's clearly better than ETH lead us to believe he was, but you're been harsh to say Diallo should be starting and Garnacho be benched at this point.
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I couldn't agree less. Diallo has a spark, the ability to run with the ball and go past people with trickery, the ability to make something happen. Garnacho has been found out already - he has no trickery about him, too often relies simply on kicking the ball and running past his man, if he can (he's not got real pace), and shoots too often after cutting in onto his left. He also does no defensive work. Diallo is ahead of Garnacho now.
 
As for Boniface, I liked him as a raw striker at Union - he looked like a real diamond in the rough. At Leverkusen though he doesn't seem to have pushed on after a good first year. I am not sure I'd gamble on him this year.
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
Good player. However I remain unconvinced United needs new strikers. It's our supply lines that needs upgrading
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Our strikers currently don’t have the elite all round game you need in a 3421 system. You must have a fast, physical clever number nine who makes the right runs, links play and can hold on to the ball.

Currently Rasmus might make it at the Elite grade but he’s 21 and needs a lot of developing, Zirkzee will never ever be an elite number 9 and Marcus is simply a ‘moments’ player whom Amorim will quickly realise might be best used as an impact sub.
 
Woziak said:
Our strikers currently don’t have the elite all round game you need in a 3421 system. You must have a fast, physical clever number nine who makes the right runs, links play and can hold on to the ball.

Currently Rasmus might make it at the Elite grade but he’s 21 and needs a lot of developing, Zirkzee will never ever be an elite number 9 and Marcus is simply a ‘moments’ player whom Amorim will quickly realise might be best used as an impact sub.
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Rasmus actually has better all round attributes than Gyokeres who Amorim has moulded into a super star thanks alot to the ample supply he gave him. We also have Chido Obi Martin in the pipeline. We don't even need Zirkzee to be an elite 9 since he was bought to be rotation option. We just need him to reproduce his Bolgna levels for us.
The less said about Rashford the better. For me he should be sold. Too selfish to be a 10 and too lazy on and off the ball to be a cf in Amorim' ball unless he under goes the kinda metamorphic change Heynckes forced out of Robben that made him more of a team player
The truth is our striker supply before Amorim arrived has been consistently shocking. Thats why I marvel why anyone thought an elite striker would make a difference in a low suppply environment. Unless he has the skill set of prime Messi.

As for our actual center strikers. The way many talk of Rasmus or Zirkzee on here one would think we provide bucket loads of chances for them and they miss. Which isn't the case. I fully expect Amorim to fix the supply issue. Then we will be able to actually judge them as strikers.

My early prediction is by season's end Amorim will be more interested in upgrading at wide forward or wing back than at center forward.
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
Rasmus actually has better all round attributes than Gyokeres who Amorim has moulded into a super star thanks alot to the ample supply he gave him. We also have Chido Obi Martin in the pipeline. We don't even need Zirkzee to be an elite 9 since he was bought to be rotation option. We just need him to reproduce his Bolgna levels for us.
The less said about Rashford the better. For me he should be sold. Too selfish to be a 10 and too lazy on and off the ball to be a cf in Amorim' ball unless he under goes the kinda metamorphic change Heynckes forced out of Robben that made him more of a team player
The truth is our striker supply before Amorim arrived has been consistently shocking. Thats why I marvel why anyone thought an elite striker would make a difference in a low suppply environment. Unless he has the skill set of prime Messi.

As for our actual center strikers. The way many talk of Rasmus or Zirkzee on here one would think we provide bucket loads of chances for them and they miss. Which isn't the case. I fully expect Amorim to fix the supply issue. Then we will be able to actually judge them as strikers.

My early prediction is by season's end Amorim will be more interested in upgrading at wide forward or wing back than at center forward.
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Solid post however I don’t think Zirkzee has the intensity for Amorim, he might change and Rasmus needs to be second in the pecking order to a more experienced number 9.

This is Man United and a lot of fans have been brainwashed to accept mediocrity in the transfer market. United have had 12 years of bad decisions, right now we need sure things in the next two windows, so if we sell Rashford, Zirkzee, Garmaucho and Mount if he can’t get fit, so be it!

Use the £150- 160m you get for those four players to buy T Hernandez or Alphonso Davies both Are elite Left Backs/Wing Baxks, Jared Branthwaite or M Ghuei and V Osimhen or V Gykores and then add Matheus Cunha, yes the combined cost for your actual elite squad layers that definitely move the needle would be £200-230m but less than £70m net if we sell well?

Let’s go buy Man United players who are ready right now not in 4 to 5 years, we’ve tried that and it didn’t work.
 
Woziak said:
Solid post however I don’t think Zirkzee has the intensity for Amorim, he might change and Rasmus needs to be second in the pecking order to a more experienced number 9.

This is Man United and a lot of fans have been brainwashed to accept mediocrity in the transfer market. United have had 12 years of bad decisions, right now we need sure things in the next two windows, so if we sell Rashford, Zirkzee, Garmaucho and Mount if he can’t get fit, so be it!

Use the £150- 160m you get for those four players to buy T Hernandez or Alphonso Davies both Are elite Left Backs/Wing Baxks, Jared Branthwaite or M Ghuei and V Osimhen or V Gykores and then add Matheus Cunha, yes the combined cost for your actual elite squad layers that definitely move the needle would be £200-230m but less than £70m net if we sell well?

Let’s go buy Man United players who are ready right now not in 4 to 5 years, we’ve tried that and it didn’t work.
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Fair enough. I disagree. I don't believe Ready made has never worked for United in rebuild mode. Ever.

On the strikers, truth is Most people who think Zirkzee lacks the intensity required never saw him for Motta at Bologna. Intensity is not an something Zirkzee lacks. He was one of the best pressing forwards in Serie A last ter. He isn't lazy at all. He is just not pacey. So because of his size people just assume he is slow and lumbering. Even as we speak with his shaky start to the season he is in the 75th and 93rd percentile for tackles and blocks. He like Rasmus has jus needed to be in better tean structure to thrive.


As for United club transfers. I'd argue its United the club that has repeatedly turned good recruits into piss, rather than the recruitment being mostly poor From Pogba's days till now. Thanks to having neither a footballing structure nor a consistent footballing direction. Now both seem to be in place let's see what they come up with. As it stands now for me many are way too eager to write off what the club recruited this past summer. Based on past work of the Glazer regime.

I personally don't believe like in the recent past we are going to be seeking upgrades on recent recruits. Its the older guard who I fully expect to get the upgrade treatment. The Rashford's and Maguire's.
 
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