Ultimate Club Legends Draft - R1 - Sjor vs Michael

With players at their mentioned club peak, who would win?


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SJOR TACTICS -

J. A. Bell (Al-Mokawloon al-Arab)

Spent 2 seasons in Egypt, won the African Cup Winners Cup and the league, after his career he was named African Keeper of the Century by IFFHS.

P. McGrath (Aston Villa)
One of the rare mistakes from Fergie, McGrath had a brilliant career at Aston Villa after Fergie let him go....won player of the club 4 times in a row, won PFA Players Player of the Year in 93 as well as being in Team of the Season for the same season.

V. Zajec (Panathinaikos)
One of the best croatian players of all time and ever present name in All Time XIs of both Panathinaikos and Dinamo Zagreb. Spent 4 years in greece, won the double in 86 and once more the cup in 88 and just before he joined them he was Yugoslavian Player of the Year in 84

J. Kohler (Dortmund)
All these hold even more weight as he did it as German Spurs - twice league winner and the CL winner with Dortmund! Was also a finalist of Uefa Cup on his last season. With Germany he won the Euro in 96 as well. Footballer of the year in 97 and twice in Kicker BL Team of the Season.

J. Angloma (Marseille)
Won the league and CL with Marseille while being in Euro Team of the Tournament for France in Euro 92

R. Jarni (Hajduk Split)
Best ever croatian leftback and pretty much the only period i personally rate in his career that went to shit or didnt went as it could have because of war and other various reasons.
In one of the best leagues in the world at the time he won the cup in 91 as well as doing great things at youth level of international football with the team winning Youth WC and being finalist in Euros 3 years later.

M. Essien (Lyon)
Spent 2 seasons at Lyon and won league in both, in second season he won player of the year as well as being in Team of the Season.

M. Dembele (AZ)
Since the creation of Eredivisie only 5 clubs outside of big three won the competition! DOS and Sparta in late 50s, DWS in mid 60s, AZ in 81 and then the dominance all the way until 2009 where AZ won it again with Dembele being the standout performer! After that also Twente won it. Interesting is, Dembele is not really known for his goalscoring yet in his 4 seasons at the club he went double figures twice!

Diego Maradona (Napoli)

Jared Borgetti (Santos Laguna)

205 goals in 295 games which makes him Santos All Time Goalscorer
Won two leagues there as well as CONCACAF Cup for Mexico. Was also twice golden ball, golden boot and best forward of the league.

Rivaldo (Palmeiras)
In his 3 seasons there he scored 55 goals in 86 games while winning the league in 94, Campeonato Paulista in 96 and being the finalist of Copa De Brasil in same season. In 94 he won Bola De Plata which is best player of Campeonato Brasileiro

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MICHAEL TACTICS -

My team will play a 4-3-3 formation with Lubanski playing as an inside forward from the left and Finney alternating between staying wide and cutting inside.

Player Profiles

Adolfo Rios (Necaxa, Aged 30-32)

  • Citalli for best Goalkeeper in Mexican First Division as voted by players in the division: Inverino 1997, Verano 1998, Inverino 1998, Verano 1999 (every half season tournament while at Necaxa additionally winning the award both immediately before and immediately after leaving the club)
  • inverino 1998 Champion (first half of the 98/99 season in the Mexican top flight which is a league followed by a knockout tournament)

Eric Gerets (Standard Liege, Aged 17-29)
  • 1982 Belgian Golden Shoe for best player in the Belgian league as voted on by football personalities and the press (finished 3rd in 1981)
  • Chosen in the Onze de Onze in 1982 and 1983 by readers of French magazine Onze Mondial as part of the best team of players based in Europe (note: Gerets spent part of 1983 playing for AC Milan)
  • Champion of the Belgian League: 1981/82; 1982/83
  • Belgian Cup Winner: 1980/81
  • European Cup Winners Cup Runner Up: 1981/82 (Lost to Barcelona in Final, eliminated Porto and Dinamo Tblisi in earlier rounds)

Hector Chumpitaz (Club Universitario de Deportes, Aged 22-32)
  • Best South American Defender: 1969 (El Grafico); 1971 (El Mundo)
  • Best Copa Libertadores Central Defender: 1967
  • Best Centre Back in Peru: 1966, 1967, 1969, 1971, 1974
  • Peruvian League Champion: 1966, 1967, 1969, 1971, 1974
  • Copa Libertadores Runner Up: 1972

Josip Katalinski (Nice, Aged 27-30)
  • Sport Ideal European XI (Chosen by Yugoslavian magazine called Sport consulting between 25 and 80 European editors and/or journalists (Source)): 1975 (Note: Katalinski spent the first half of 1975 at Zeljeznicar)
  • Ligue 1 Runner Up: 1975/76
  • Coupe de France Runner Up: 1977/78
Katalinski is described as follows by the Nice website:

In 129 games in the Nice jersey, Katalinski imposed his rigor, his aerial ease, his volcanic temperament, his sense of duelling, his physical strength, his tonicity, his recovery and his powerful shot to the point of the supernatural. He scored 35 goals, a phenomenal total for a central defender
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After his death in 2011, Katalinski was described as follows by Nice teammate, defender Henri Zambelli:

He was a great guy, and a great player. Through his experience and his state of mind, I learned a lot from him. He knew how to defend but also how to counterattack. And what a warrior!
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After his death in 2011, Katalinski's teammate striker Marc Molitor described his playing style as follows:
Technically, he was a very great defender: toned, with particularly muscular legs, an external relaxationraordinary, an extreme harshness in the duel. With that, a strong character, capable of shaking up his teammates on the pitch just by raising his voice. As for his ball strike? Exceptional. Free kicks - especially long range - and penalties were his delight. Always in force. When I say "very great defender", I mean: the category above. Despite his physical strength, he was not a Domenech-style smasher: on the contrary, he had a real talent as a footballer. In training, I improved a lot against him. There are defenders that we know we can eliminate without forcing too much; With him, you always had to go into overdrive. It was better to avoid swaying dribbles. To eliminate it, I knew that I would need to be very quick to execute in my hook, and above all that I would hurry to hit. Otherwise, with all his power, he would come back to tackle at breakneck speed.
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Evgeny Lovchev (Spartak Moscow, Aged 20-29)
  • Soviet Footballer of the Year (voted on by journalists): 1972 (Also finished 3rd in 1975)
  • List of 33 Best Football Players of the Season in the USSR (Top 3 chosen by position, proposed by the National Coaches Council and compiled by the Presidium of the USSR Football Federation: 1st: 1969; 1972; 1973; 1975 2nd: 1970; 1974 3rd: 1976 (Note: Judging by positions of other players it seems that his 1974 and 1976 placings were as CM/AM while the others were as a LB)
  • Soviet Top League Winner: 1969
  • Soviet Cup Winner: 1971

Claude Makelele (Celta Vigo, Aged 25-27)
  • Finished 5th and 7th in La Liga, beating Liverpool and Juventus in European Competitions
  • Good Record against top La Liga sides: Real Madrid (3 wins, 1 loss); Barcelona (3 draws, 1 loss); Valencia (4 draws); and Deportivo (1 win, 1 draw, 2 losses)
  • Signed by Champions League winning Real Madrid for 12 million pounds from Celta
In February 2025 Makelele stated the following:
I think the best football I played was at Celta.

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Makelele described playing as a midfielder at Celta as follows:
I realized that I was even more involved in the game, that I could lead the team because the ball was bound to go through my zone. I played with Mazinho, I learned a lot from him, I often stayed after training to listen to his advice. He taught me to always be in a good position, I learned so much and I got better every day. During the matches, we exchanged offensive and defensive tasks but since I was younger, it was mainly up to me to move forward. I was going back and forth a lot.
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Eurosport journalist Cyril Morin stated that:
Spain quickly fell under the spell of this marathon runner in the middle, an outstanding ball scraper with exceptional tactical intelligence.
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Giacomo Bulgarelli (Bologna, Aged 18-35)
  • Serie A Winner: 1963/64
  • Coppa Italia Winner: 1969/70; 1973/74
Journalist Giuseppe Tassi describes Bulgarelli as follows:
On the field Giacomo was a great midfielder, a classic interior player capable of breaking up the opponent's game and inventing football with absolute ease. He was the man of assists, of the last pass, a true finishing artist. But he was also a generous player, full of momentum and healthy competitiveness.
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Tassi's comparison of Bulgarelli to Sandro Mazzola and Gianni Rivera is that:
Bulgarelli was third in a lot of sense, but for technical completeness and athletic qualities he deserved to be the first of the three.
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After his death in 2009 Fabio Capello opined that:
in my opinion he was the best midfielder Italy has had. He knew how to stay on the pitch, recover balls, score goals, he was a leader on and off the pitch.
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After his death, former Bologna teammate Sergio Campana stated that:
he had the skills of Rivera and Mazzola put together
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Miguel Angel Brindisi (Huracan, Aged 18-25, 28-30)
  • 2nd Place in South American Footballer of the Year: 1973
  • Argentine Footballer of the Year (chosen by Argentine journalists): 1973
  • El Grafico's team of the Metropolitan Championship: 1972, 1973, 1975 (note: The Argentine Football season during Brindisi's spells at Huracan were split into multiple parts with the Metropolitan geberally having the most matches and generally having all teams play each other
  • Top Goal Scorer: 1972 Metropolitan
  • El Grafico Average Ratings (All sourced from this thread including subsequent pages): 1969 Metropolitan: 6.83; 1969 Year: 6.11 (14th overall); 1972 Season: 6.50 (7th overall); 1973 Season: 6.53; 1975 Season: 6.31; 1st 17 rounds of 1980: 6.53 (5th Overall)
  • Metropolitan Champion: 1973
On his 70th birthday he was described by the Argentina Football Associations website as follows:
As footballers, he was an elegant midfielder, with great technique, good assists and a lot of goal-scoring skills.
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Tom Finney (Preston North End, Aged 18-38)
  • Football Writers Association Player of the Year: 1954, 1957
  • FA Cup Runner Up: 1954

Bill Shankly described Matthews as:
the greatest player I ever saw, bar none
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Stanley Matthews praised Finney as follows:
"To dictate the pace and course of a game," he wrote, "a player has to be blessed with awesome qualities. Those who have accomplished it on a regular basis can be counted on the fingers of one hand: Pelé, Maradona, Best, Di Stéfano and Tom Finney."
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After his death in 2014, ex teammate and ex United Manager Tommy Docherty described Finney as follows:
"He was the best player I've ever seen, alongside Lionel Messi."

"I watch a lot of Barcelona and when I watch Messi, I close my eyes and can see Tom. I'm serious when I say that Messi is the Tom Finney of today.
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2 years earlier, in 2012 Docherty stated that:
If I was a manager and was able to buy any player who has played the game, I would buy Finney.
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Ronaldo (Inter Milan, Aged 20-25)
  • Serie A Footballer of the Year: 1998
  • UEFA Club Footballer of the Year: 1997/98
  • European Sports Media (ESM) Team of the Year: 1997/98
  • UEFA Cup Winner: 1997/98
  • Coppa Italia Runner Up: 1999/2000
Here are all of Ronaldo's goals for Inter from the clubs official Youtube Channel:



Wlodzimierz Lubanski (Gornik Zabrze, Aged 16-28)
  • Polish Footballer of the Year (chosen by readers of Sport): 1972
  • Top Goalscorer in Polish League: 1965/66, 1966/67, 1967/68, 1968/69
  • Top Goalscorer in European Cup Winners Cup: 1969/70, 1970/71
  • Eric Batty's World XI: 1968, 1969, 1972, 1973
  • Polish League Winner: 1962/63, 1963/64, 1964/65, 1965/66, 1966/67, 1970/71, 1971/72
  • Polish Cup Winners: 1964/65, 1967/68, 1968/69, 1969/70, 1970/71, 1971/72
  • European Cup Winners Cup Runner Up: 1969/70
 
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Had no idea how he played there outside of reading about it obviously but he is of specific style so i assumed there wont be much in terms of playing style and it wasnt thankfully. Wanted to see 2 things mainly, movement of the ball as i wanted Diego to have the central stage and his movement was lovely and as was young, he was a willing runner, even chased few lost causes.
Second thing i wanted to see was defensive workrate and he passed that with flying colors, very disciplined in the defensive shape and often defended as a wide midfielder.

Wanted to see two things, of the ball movement and workrate - Rivaldo scored 2 goals - one brilliant of the ball movement and one where he won the ball from the press!
Bonus point: Looks like Luigi from Super Mario