Ultimate Club Legends Draft - QF - GSTQ vs Gio

Who will win the match?


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TEAM GSTQ


Formation: 4-3-3

Goalkeeper: Claudio Bravo (Colo-Colo)

  • Accomplishments: Claudio Bravo was a standout performer at Colo-Colo, where he showcased his exceptional shot-stopping abilities and leadership. During his peak years from 2005 to 2007, he helped Colo-Colo win the Chilean Primera División twice and was named Chilean Footballer of the Year in 2006.
Left Back: Andreas Brehme (FC Kaiserslautern)
  • Accomplishments: Andreas Brehme was a versatile and technically gifted left back known for his precise crossing, free-kick taking, and ability to play with both feet. During his first peak years at Kaiserslautern from 1980 to 1986, Brehme was instrumental in their Bundesliga campaigns. His ability to deliver accurate crosses and his proficiency in set-pieces made him a constant threat in the attacking third. His defensive solidity and tactical awareness ensured that he was equally effective in his primary role as a defender. In his later peak years at FC Kaiserslautern from 1993 to 1998, Brehme continued to excel both defensively and offensively. He helped the team win the German Cup in 1996 and the Bundesliga in 1998.
Centre Back: Fabio Cannavaro (Parma)
  • Accomplishments: At Parma, Cannavaro was a defensive rock, winning the UEFA Cup in 1999. From 1998 to 2000, he also won two Coppa Italia titles and the Italian Super Cup. His defensive prowess during these years earned him widespread acclaim and solidified his reputation as one of the best defenders of his generation.
Centre Back: Velibor Vasovic (Partizan)
  • Accomplishments: Vasovic was a key figure for Partizan, leading them to the European Cup final in 1966. During his peak years from 1960 to 1965, he won four Yugoslav Championships (1960-61, 1961-62, 1962-63, 1964-65) and was known for his leadership and defensive skills. Vasovic was also renowned for his ability to distribute the ball and initiate plays from the back, making him a crucial part of the team's build-up play.
Right Back: Cafu (São Paulo)
  • Accomplishments: Cafu was a dynamic presence at São Paulo, winning the Copa Libertadores in 1992 and 1993 and the Intercontinental Cup in those same years. His attacking runs and defensive contributions were unmatched, making him a key player for the team. Cafu was also named South American Footballer of the Year in 1994.
Defensive Midfielder: Franky Van Der Elst (Club Brugge)
  • Accomplishments: Van Der Elst was a midfield general at Club Brugge, winning multiple Belgian league titles. He won five Belgian championships (1987-88, 1989-90, 1991-92, 1995-96, 1997-98) and four Belgian Cups (1985-86, 1990-91, 1994-95, 1995-96), establishing himself as a legend at the club. He was also awarded the Belgian Golden Shoe in 1990 and 1996.
Left Attacking Midfielder: Alfredo Di Stefano (Real Madrid)
  • Accomplishments: Di Stefano was a legend at Real Madrid, leading them to multiple European Cup victories. From 1956 to 1960, he won five European Cups and eight La Liga titles. He scored 308 goals in 396 appearances for Real Madrid, showcasing his creativity, vision, and goal-scoring ability, which made him one of the greatest players of all time. He was also awarded the Ballon d'Or in 1957 and 1959.
Right Attacking Midfielder: Ruud Gullit (PSV)
  • Accomplishments: Gullit was a versatile and powerful midfielder at PSV, known for his technical skills and physical presence. He won the Eredivisie title in 1986 and 1987 and was named Dutch Footballer of the Year in 1986. His ability to drive forward and contribute both defensively and offensively made him a key player. Gullit was also awarded the Ballon d'Or in 1987.
Left Wing Forward: Hristo Stoichkov (CSKA Sofia)
  • Accomplishments: Stoichkov was a prolific scorer at CSKA Sofia, winning multiple Bulgarian league titles. From 1984 to 1990, he scored 81 goals in 119 appearances, and won three Bulgarian championships and four Bulgarian Cups. He was named Bulgarian Footballer of the Year in 1989 and 1990.
Centre Forward: Luigi Riva (Cagliari)
  • Accomplishments: Riva was a legendary striker at Cagliari, leading them to their only Serie A title in 1969-70. From 1963 to 1976, he scored 164 goals in 315 appearances, known for his clinical finishing, strength, and aerial ability. He was the Serie A Top Scorer in 1966-67, 1968-69, and 1969-70.
Right Wing Forward: Johnny Rep (Bastia)
  • Accomplishments: Rep was a key player for Bastia, leading them to the UEFA Cup final in 1978. From 1977 to 1979, he scored 33 goals in 65 appearances, making him a fan favorite and a legend in French football. Rep's ability to score crucial goals and his partnership with other forwards made Bastia a formidable attacking force during his tenure.
Tactical Breakdown

Defense
Our four-man defense is built on a foundation of solidity and tactical intelligence. Andreas Brehme, Fabio Cannavaro, Velibor Vasovic, and Cafu form a formidable backline. Brehme and Cafu will support the attack with overlapping runs, while Cannavaro and Vasovic will focus on maintaining a strong central defense. This quartet will play a balanced line, pressing the opposition and maintaining compactness to prevent counter-attacks.

Midfield The midfield trio is designed to control possession and dictate the tempo of the game. Franky Van Der Elst anchors the midfield, breaking up opposition play and distributing the ball efficiently. Alfredo Di Stefano and Ruud Gullit provide central support, adding numbers to the midfield to maintain control and fluidity. Di Stefano's creativity and vision, combined with Gullit's power and technical skills, ensure a dynamic and versatile midfield. The midfield's energy and pressing ability ensure that the team can effectively disrupt the opposition's build-up play.

Attack The attacking trio of Hristo Stoichkov, Johnny Rep, and Luigi Riva is designed to stretch the opposition and create scoring opportunities. Stoichkov and Rep, as wide forwards, provide width and pace, cutting inside to create chances and take shots on goal. Riva, the centre forward, leads the line with his clinical finishing and aerial prowess, converting chances created by the dynamic midfield and wide forwards. The forwards' pace and work rate allow them to press the opposition's defenders and force errors, creating opportunities for quick transitions and counter-attacks.


TEAM GIO

CARLOS ROA - aged 25-28

Someone whose legacy would be much bigger had he not assumed the world was about to end and took a year off at the height of his career. That was only days after he had been voted the best goalkeeper in Europe during the 98/99 season at Mallorca, who he joined from Lanus in Argentina. It was at Lanus where he established himself as the top Argentine goalkeeper, winning the Copa COMNEBOL in 1996.

LAURENT BLANC - aged 18-25
It was at Montpellier where Blanc transformed from attacking midfielder to defence, making such an impact that went on to win French Player of the Year in 1990. As club captain he led Montpellier to only their second every trophy, with Blanc scoring in an extra-time Coupe de France win over RC Paris. He built on this with an exceptional 90/91 campaign, scoring 14 goals in Ligue Un alone, despite playing at the back. In Europe they turned over recent European Cup winners PSV and Steau Bucharest, keeping 4 clean sheets in 4 games, before falling to Ferguson's United.

LUCIO - aged 22-26
All-action defensive monster who helped drive Leverkusen to the brink of an unfathomable treble in 2001/02. Lucio scored in the Champions League Final against Real Madrid. A couple of weeks' later he led Brazil's defence to the 2002 World Cup. Kicker gave him a World-Class rating for his performances in 2001 and 2002. Selected in the European Sports Media Team of the Season in 2001/02 and an ever-present in the Bundesliga Team of the Season from 2000 through to 2006.

ERIC GERETS - aged 17-29
One of the greatest right-backs of all time whose box-to-box game came to the fore at Standard Liege where he spent the bulk of his career. Liege won the league in 1982 and 1983, were runners-up in the ECWC, while Belgium were runners-up at Euro 1980. Gerets won the Golden Shoe in 1982, the Bronze Shoe in 1981, was nominated for the Ballon D'Or in 1982 and 1983, and selected in the Don Balon World Cup All-Star Team in 1982.

JUAN PABLO SORIN - aged 23-28
Spent his prime years at Cruzeiro in Brazil. Scored a solid 18 goals in 121 games as he swashbuckled up and down the flank.

GABI - aged 24-28
Started his career at Atletico, moved out to Zaragoza, and came back as the finished article having transformed from a wide midfielder into a midfield-controlling holder. His final season at Zaragoza was remarkable - assuming the captaincy, assigned to penalties and scoring 11 goals.
Worth reflecting on the highest media-rated midfielders of La Liga in 2010/11 - at a time when the league was its strongest and it was overflowing with midfield quality.

1 - Andres Iniesta - 6.74
2 - Gabi - 6.69
3 - Xabi Prieto - 6.52
4 - Xavi Hernandez - 6.48

Masterful at locking down a midfield, Gabi was specifically chosen because the way he is ingrained in a short-passing give-and-go style.

FRANK RIJKAARD - aged 25-30
3rd place in the Ballon D'Or during each of his first two seasons at Milan. Was Serie A Footballer of the Year in 1992. Highest rated CM in Serie A in 89/90 and 91/92. Won the European Cup twice as the central midfielder in Sacchi's all-conquering 4-4-2.

RIVELLINO - aged 19-29
Long career with Corinthians. Was in the COMNEBOL All-Star Team of 1973 when he was also awarded the bronze ball for South American Footballer of the Year. Will be deployed in the inside-left channel which should marry his creative game with his natural left-sidedness. Freed up with the platform of Gabi and Rijkaard, he will pose questions of the opposition holding midfield area. Complementary options around him with Sorin's bursting energy down the flank, Blokhin's searing pace ahead, and Messi of course in the middle. One of the few players on Messi's technical wave-length.

LIONEL MESSI - aged 17-34
778 games for Barcelona. 672 goals. 269 assists. 7 Ballon D'Or.

OLEG BLOKHIN - aged 17-34
Won 19 titles with Kyiv, including 8 league titles and 3 European trophies. Secured the Ballon D'Or in 1975, thrice the Eastern European Footballer of the Season, and 9 times the Ukraine Footballer of the Year.

ZIBI BONIEK - aged 19-26
Such was Boniek's impact on the Widzew side, he was recently made an honorary citizen of Lodz. They won their first two league championships under his leadership, before the moved to Juventus in the summer of 1982. That year he came 3rd in the Ballon D'Or, won his 2nd Polish Footballer of the Year award, and won the Eastern European Footballer of the Season Award.


TACTICS

Set up in a 4-3-3 with Messi as the centre-piece. The attack and flanks are full of work rate, energy and movement. In the front three, Messi has mobile, pacy and gifted options either side. Overlapping down the flanks will be Sorin and Gerets: both natural overlappers, in their prime, capable of doing the box-to-box work. They will create space for Blokhin and Boniek to cut in and roam to cause all sorts of confusion in the opposition defence, with Messi pulling the strings from the hole.

Midfield tries to blend technical quality with the short passing give-and-go game that no doubt gets the best out of Messi. There were other options, but I felt Gabi blends that style with his own forensic command of the midfield. To his right is Frank Rijkaard whose dynamic box-to-box game was pivotal to Milan's success and finds himself in the same role here. Together they will be tasked with cutting the supply to and space for Di Stefano. Contributing too will be Rivellino who in 1970 delivered a masterclass in adapting his game to co-exist with a plethora of great attackers. Going forward Rivellino, Messi and Rijkaard will offer a range of threats in behind GSTQ's midfield.

Defensively there is loads of physicality to match up to GSTQ's forward line. Lucio has the strength to challenge for the first ball, while Blanc will sweep, cover, and lock out the threats in behind. In style it should resemble the Blanc/Desailly partnership, with Gabi and Rijkaard shutting out the space ahead.

CHANGES
The two additions are Frank Rijkaard and Eric Gerets who replace Andy Moller and Dan Petrescu. Recognising the valid feedback on the gung-ho nature of the first round team, the changes hopefully help to re-balance the side. Rijkaard obviously has more defensive attributes than Moller and should complement Gabi's forensic concentration with his own greater dynamism. Gerets strengthens the flank, particularly defensively which is necessary against Hristo.
 
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@GodShaveTheQueen All the best.

Just a point of clarity on the ages included in your post, as a few of them don't relate to the clubs they represent:

Bravo - aged 20-23 (not 22-24)

Cafu - aged 20-24 (not 24-26)
Brehme - aged 20-25 (not 24-27)

Stoichkov - aged 18-24 (not 23-25)
Gullit - aged 22-24 (not 24-26)
 
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@GodShaveTheQueen All the best.

Just a point of clarity on the ages included in your post, as a few of them don't relate to the clubs they represent:

Bravo - aged 20-23 (not 22-24)

Cafu - aged 20-24 (not 24-26)
Brehme - aged 20-25 (not 24-27)

Stoichkov - aged 18-24 (not 23-25)
Gullit - aged 22-24 (not 24-26)

Yea, possible. I asked copilot to calculate their ages while at those clubs.
 
On the game, pretty great team yourselves. I'd genuinely have thought this was a potential final worthy game.

Only pick I dislike is Laurent Blanc who out of his 6 years at Montpellier played 5 from AM and only last one at CB.

Apparently was decent at it and obviously went on to become a great player, but didnt warrant a spot in an all time draft IMO. More of a shiny name pick.
 
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On the game, pretty great team yourselves. I'd genuinely have thought this was a potential final worthy game.

Only pick I dislike is Laurent Blanc who out of his 6 years at Montpellier played 5 from AM and only last one at CB.

Apparently was decent at it and obviously went on to become a great player, but didnt warrant a spot in an all time draft IMO. More of a shiny name pick.
Yeah likewise. Cap doffed for a strong and well designed team.

On Blanc I had the option of taking him, slightly older at St Etienne, instead. Might have been an easier sell in some ways. But nah, he won French Player of the Year in 1990 for his exploits in the centre of defence. And that was a stacked league at the time, with Marseille a top 2-3 team in Europe, and the likes of Weah, Papin, Francescoli, Hoddle, Desailly, Mozer, Amoros, Tigana, Deschamps, Cantona, Sauzee, Thuram, and so on.

Mézy made a decision that would transform the rest of the 25-year-old’s career. The Montpellier coach had a revelatory hunch that Blanc’s composure on the ball and rare ability to read the shifting patterns of a contest made him more suited to play in defence, either as part of a central defensive duo or as a ball-playing sweeper.

Incredibly, the switch didn’t affect Blanc’s goalscoring prowess, notching 15 goals in all competitions. Blanc started the season like a train, scoring four goals in the first four games, including a double against PSG in a thumping 4-0 win. Other highlights included two more consecutive braces, first in a 2-2 draw with Lyon and then in a 5-2 blitzing of Metz. Blanc’s goals took Montpellier to a seventh-place finish, just three points shy of UEFA Cup qualification. The defender’s dynamic performances had also caught the eye of a number of Serie A’s biggest teams and at the end of the season champions Napoli won the race to take him to Italy.

So I stand by the pick. Watched parts of a few games from Montpellier around that time and his performances passed the eye test. Even moreso with a full head of hair. And pace.
 
If i remember correctly, young Cafu was a winger. At least in WC 1994.
 
he won French Player of the Year in 1990 for his exploits in the centre of defence.

I'd call that a stretch. He was averaging 15 goals a season his last 3 years at the club. Of course, he would win player of the season with those numbers.

Michel Mezy (who moved Blanc to CB for his last year at Montepellier) himself joined Montepellier in the Feb of 1990 after more than half the season was done
 
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If i remember correctly, young Cafu was a winger.

He started as a winger, played as a midfielder too and eventually settled as a wingback.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Copa_Libertadores_finals

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Recopa_Sudamericana

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Supercopa_Libertadores_finals

It was during this time (1990/91) however, that São Paulo youth coach Telê Santana became Cafu's mentor. He suggested that Cafu move from right midfield to wingback, a spot into which Cafu made the transition with ease despite never previously playing the position. He had soon anchored onto the first team, as São Paulo won back-to-back Copa Libertadores and Intercontinental Cup in 1992 and 1993. In 1994, he was named the South American Footballer of the Year
 
He started as a winger, played as a midfielder too and eventually settled as a wingback.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Copa_Libertadores_finals

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Recopa_Sudamericana

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Supercopa_Libertadores_finals

It was during this time (1990/91) however, that São Paulo youth coach Telê Santana became Cafu's mentor. He suggested that Cafu move from right midfield to wingback, a spot into which Cafu made the transition with ease despite never previously playing the position. He had soon anchored onto the first team, as São Paulo won back-to-back Copa Libertadores and Intercontinental Cup in 1992 and 1993. In 1994, he was named the South American Footballer of the Year

Good findings, mate.
 
I'd call that a stretch. He was averaging 15 goals a season his last 3 years at the club. Of course, he would win player of the season with those numbers.

Michel Mezy (who moved Blanc to CB for his last year at Montepellier) himself joined Montepellier in the Feb of 1990 after more than half the season was done
The player of the year award in France was for the calendar year, not the preceding season.

https://www.rsssf.org/miscellaneous/franpoy.html
 
Tough game, Gio's attack is world class, just see scrappy's midfield out working Gio's here, his back four also is better in quality and is also well put together.

Colo Colo what a name for a club.
 
Tough game, Gio's attack is world class, just see scrappy's midfield out working Gio's here, his back four also is better in quality and is also well put together.

Colo Colo what a name for a club.
Just a comment on the respective defences. If I was merging them I’d probably go:

Roa edges a young Bravo
Younger Brehme albeit not at his Inter prime but a bit ahead of peak Sorin
Cannavaro and Blanc
Young Cafu and prime Gerets probably about the same

I get the names on my side aren’t as impressive but they are generally providing prime versions of just about every player on the park.
 
Cannavaro and Blanc

I'd bet my house on not a single person here agreeing to this as the best CBs on the pitch.

You'd take Blanc, who played exactly 1 full season as a CB over Vasovic? Arguably amongst the top 5 sweepers of the decade? Someone who lead his team Partizan to a European Cup final?

Maybe if you compare their overall careers, its a different story, but the club versions we have make it a no contest (w.r.t the better CB, not the game obviously).

I'd be like me claiming I'd take Stoichkov over Blokhin because Stoichkov won the Bulgarian footballer of the year
 
Two really great teams. I think it might come down to Gabi vs VdE here. They both seem key to their team’s balance and I don’t know enough about either.

Balance wise, I think both are perfect. Franky the archetypical DM. Gabi, a mainstay in Simeone's Atletico Madrid (although here its the Zaragoza version which I dont know much about)

Dont see any tactical flaws in either team. Its more about quality. Both do fall short when compared to Messi/Rivellino/Gullit/Di Stefano.

Both do have great support from the rest of the midfields though. All 4 of Rivellino/Di Stefano/Gullit/Rijkaard will contribute off the ball.

But smart money would say that both are in for a tough game.
 
I'd bet my house on not a single person here agreeing to this as the best CBs on the pitch.

You'd take Blanc, who played exactly 1 full season as a CB over Vasovic? Arguably amongst the top 5 sweepers of the decade? Someone who lead his team Partizan to a European Cup final?

Maybe if you compare their overall careers, its a different story, but the club versions we have make it a no contest (w.r.t the better CB, not the game obviously).

I'd be like me claiming I'd take Stoichkov over Blokhin because Stoichkov won the Bulgarian footballer of the year
Not really. Blokhin won the Ballon D’Or and Vasovic didn’t. I know you rate Vasovic higher than most, but I rate Blanc’s top level higher than Vasovic’s. The comparison is moot in any case as Vasovic is playing directly against Messi, not Blanc.

And Blanc played more than a single season at CB. I’d estimate he played over 60 games in that position for Montpellier which is plenty in my view to form an opinion of his level. And that was as strong a level at CB as he showed in his career. You don’t win French Player of the Year in such a strong league at the time and for a ‘smaller club’ unless you’re hitting a top level. Marseille were the best team in Europe that season and Papin won the Ballon D’Or in 91.

He transformed that defence. In Montpellier’s first 18 games of the season they conceded 30 goals. Then they moved Blanc into the defence. And in their final 18 games of the 89/90 season they conceded just 7 goals. He misses one game during that time and Montpellier get pasted 3-0.

Not only that he led them to only the second trophy in their history, the 89/90 Coupe de France, keeping 4 clean sheets in 6 games, with Blanc himself scoring in the final. From there his stewardship of the back line into 90/91 sees little Montpellier dump PSV out of Europe, who had won the big one only two years prior, keeping clean sheets in both games despite being up against Romario no less. Blanc repeats the feat against the European Cup winners of 4 years earlier Steau Bucharest, who had been runners-up in the European Cup only a year earlier. Four clean sheets in four games against two of Europe’s best teams.
 
I find it somewhat rich that you criticise Blanc as a name pick when you’ve got pre-peak versions of Cafu, Bravo, Brehme, Stoichkov on the park. Despite the fake ages in the OP, those guys are riding on the reputation of what they did later in their careers to help justify their presence. For example, Cafu was considered as back up to Jorginho at this stage of his career and spent much of the time as a right winger. So we have little idea how he’d fare defensively against Blokhin, regularly getting slipped in from through-balls from Messi (himself up against one of Vasovic/Van der Elst/Cannavaro).

As I said I rate them all for what they did at those clubs. But these aren’t the peak and proven versions.
 
As I said I rate them all for what they did at those clubs. But these aren’t the peak and proven versions.

Absolute peaks? No. This draft was never about all 11 players at their absolute peaks. You likely wont see that even in the final after 3 more reinforcements

Not proven version? Sure, if you call 2 Copa Libertadores and being the South American footballer of the year as unproven, good for you. Or did you check Brehme's stats at Kaiserslautern? You probably did as you did try to pick him in the sheep round yourself :)

I only singled out Blanc as 1 full season is too less of a time period to say he wont struggle against an all time great versions central core in Riva/Di Stefano/Gullit.

All my players played 5-6 years in their roles at these clubs. That is enough of a window to judge.
 
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Not really. Blokhin won the Ballon D’Or and Vasovic didn’t. I know you rate Vasovic higher than most, but I rate Blanc’s top level higher than Vasovic’s. The comparison is moot in any case as Vasovic is playing directly against Messi, not Blanc.

And Blanc played more than a single season at CB. I’d estimate he played over 60 games in that position for Montpellier which is plenty in my view to form an opinion of his level. And that was as strong a level at CB as he showed in his career. You don’t win French Player of the Year in such a strong league at the time and for a ‘smaller club’ unless you’re hitting a top level. Marseille were the best team in Europe that season and Papin won the Ballon D’Or in 91.

He transformed that defence. In Montpellier’s first 18 games of the season they conceded 30 goals. Then they moved Blanc into the defence. And in their final 18 games of the 89/90 season they conceded just 7 goals. He misses one game during that time and Montpellier get pasted 3-0.

Not only that he led them to only the second trophy in their history, the 89/90 Coupe de France, keeping 4 clean sheets in 6 games, with Blanc himself scoring in the final. From there his stewardship of the back line into 90/91 sees little Montpellier dump PSV out of Europe, who had won the big one only two years prior, keeping clean sheets in both games despite being up against Romario no less. Blanc repeats the feat against the European Cup winners of 4 years earlier Steau Bucharest, who had been runners-up in the European Cup only a year earlier. Four clean sheets in four games against two of Europe’s best teams.

I have made my best effort to not look down at Blanc all through the game. Like you, I am a fan but as I said, his first full season as a CB in his whole career is probably not some one I would want in the middle of the park in an all time draft with genuine all time peak attackers. Matter of principled choice I guess. Others including you can have differing ways to look at it of course
 
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This is Cafu from Sao Paulo. Judge yourself if he plays like a winger most of the time.

 
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I have made my best effort to not look down at Blanc all through the game. Like you, I am a fan but as I said, his first full season as a CB in his whole career is probably not some one I would want in the middle of the park in an all time draft with genuine all time peak attackers. Matter of principled choice I guess. Others including you can have differing ways to look at it of course
According to Transfermarkt, Gullit played the majority of his two seasons at PSV at sweeper. It’s got him down for 23 games in midfield at PSV.

So are those the sort of credentials you want in the middle of the park with genuine all-time greats? It doesn’t sound like anywhere near enough if you plan to be consistent.
 
According to Transfermarkt, Gullit played the majority of his two seasons at PSV at sweeper. It’s got him down for 23 games in midfield at PSV.

So are those the sort of credentials you want in the middle of the park with genuine all-time greats? It doesn’t sound like anywhere near enough if you plan to be consistent.

If a sweeper (which he wasnt primarily limited to at PSV) has numbers like that, I'd play him anywhere on the pitch :cool:


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Dont need to mention this since probably everyone knows, but he won the Ballon dor 1987 and it wasn't just for the half season he spent at his new club Milan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987_Ballon_d'Or
 
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@GodShaveTheQueen I wasn’t criticising his credentials. Merely pointing out that Blanc has about as many games at CB at Montpellier as Gullit has at PSV, even though Gullit played most of those at sweeper with the remainder spread across midfield and up top.

The angles you’ve taken to critique Blanc - namely around the lack of games in that position. And how that falls short of the long bodies of work of other players. Well none of it washes unless we want to water down Gullit’s contributions as well. Because Blanc:
  • Had 7 seasons and 300 games at Montpellier (compared to 2 for Ruud)
  • Left Montpellier at 25, later than Ruud leaving PSV at 24
  • Played up and down the pitch like Gullit
  • Had almost 3 times as many games at CB compared to what Gullit has in CM for PSV.
It’s your call how consistently you want to treat these players.
 
The basic difference is Gullit already played as a free attacker even in his previous club Feyenoord having won the league with a partnership with non other than Cruyff. He was a well established name as a free roaming attacker even before he joined PSV.

Even if he was at PSV for only 2 years, he was absolutely world class and already counted amongst the best players in the world (the very best in 1987 actually).

Its apples and oranges. Unlike Blanc, it wasn't his first full season in his whole 25 year old career when he played that position.

Anyways we have made our point of view known on Blanc, no point going in circles.

It’s your call how consistently you want to treat these players.

As good a thought as any to agree to disagree
 
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Really like both teams, especially Gio's that probably would control the match. But also acknowledging that GSTQ's able to score plenty with that very dynamic and powerful midfield.