UEFA Nations League

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Anyone excited about this one? Ah, how could they not be, it replaces all those unimportant friendlies we love to bitch about.

So, if I got this right...

4 Divisions (league) with 4 groups each. 12 in League A and B, 14 in C, and 16 teams in League D. Promotions from B, C and D, and relegations from A, B and C. Apparently, winners of each League will be guaranteed a place in the Euro 2020, and that appears like a pretty huge thing for some minnow teams, and I really hope it's true.

Group stage would take place from September to November of 2018, while play-offs would wait a while, and happen only in March of 2020. Normal Euro qualification begins in March of 2019, and that has to be complete before. But we'd get winners (Top four play-off of League A) of Nations League in June of 2019.

Here's in image format...

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Now we need FIFA to do something similar.
 
I have such a headache but i bet explanation is way simpler then that picture.
 
In short Euro qualifications > 20 places at Euro 2020
Nations League (in place of friendlies) > 4 places at Euro 2020

Considering that every League (Division) winner gets a place at Euro 2020, one of the worst 16 teams in Europe is guaranteed a place in the finals.
 
I wish they'd just blame Platini for this and scrap it now.

FIFA most certainly do not need to do something similar
 
Does this mean we would have the likes of Andorra battling it out with San Marino and Liechtenstein for a guaranteed place in a tournament that they will get mauled at (making three groups games nothing more than a foregone conclusion).

I actually like the general competitiveness of the Euro's. Rarely do you get the kind of fodder that exists at the World Cup.
Either invite everyone and make it a straight knock-out or stick with the current qualifying process, why anyone thinks having the best of the worst involved will make things better is beyond me.

I don't mind the idea of spicing up friendlies but this isn't the way to do it IMO. Remove the qualification stuff and I'm onboard.

#All based on the idea that I have correctly interpreted the format, I thought I understood the OP until I looked at the picture :wenger:#
 
limerickcitykid said:
What happens to the league winners who also win their qualification group?
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Then 2nd to 5th placed team would get into play-offs. If by any chance 11 out of 12 teams in team A qualifies normally, there'll be play-offs of 12th team from League A and three best non-qualified teams from League B. And so on and on going lower down the Leagues... If I got that right.

rcoobc said:
I wish they'd just blame Platini for this and scrap it now.

FIFA most certainly do not need to do something similar
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Well, I hope not! I quite like it, better that than friendlies at least, as it appears this might eliminate a lot of them. What is your main gripe with it? Guess those guaranteed places at Euro might be unfair, but it's just 4 out of 24. And chances are, at least three of them would've gotten in via regular qualifications.
 
facund said:
I actually like the general competitiveness of the Euro's. Rarely do you get the kind of fodder that exists at the World Cup.
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To be fair, that's because there were just sixteen teams in the last five Euro tournaments since 1996. Hard to get much fodder that way. They made a big jump this year, adding 8 more teams.

facund said:
Does this mean we would have the likes of Andorra battling it out with San Marino and Liechtenstein for a guaranteed place in a tournament that they will get mauled at (making three groups games nothing more than a foregone conclusion).
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Probably not them, but more countries like Macedonia, Cyprus, Lithuania, Belarus...
 
Theafonis said:
Can someone explain this in very simple words...
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All Uefa teams are divided in to four leagues (I imagine based on rankings).

The members of each leagues play one another and the winner of each league qualifies for the Euro's.

There will also be promotion and relegation based on league positions much like any classical league structure.

These games would be played instead of friendlies.
 
Theafonis said:
Can someone explain this in very simple words...
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They wanted an FA Cup of UEFA nations. But they realised that was stupid.

So they split the UEFA nations into four leagues, and decided to have mini groups of four teams in each league with promotion and relegation between them (the leagues). The best team in each leaguethat doesn't qualify for the Euros in a normal fashion gets an extra place in the euros. The top and league has a knockout to decide the ultimate winner of the UEFA nations league.

Unfortunately they didn't realise this was stupid
 
facund said:
The members of each leagues play one another and the winner of each league qualifies for the Euro's.
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Oh not one another, not enough play days (just six from Sep to November). Just two or three within their groups in home-and-away matches.
 
Bad idea. More serious game = national coaches call up players = even less rest.

It's better row viewers than pointless friendly, that's it. So money making scheme. Clubs fan would hate this to death.

If you're not good enough to qualify through regular qualifier matches, then that's it. Don't force on clubs and help the leechers
 
I don't think there's a difference for clubs fans. Games played would be roughly the same as before when you count friendlies. And national coaches regularly call players for those anyway...
 
Mrs Smoker said:
I don't think there's a difference for clubs fans. Games played would be roughly the same as before when you count friendlies. And national coaches regularly call players for those anyway...
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The importance of a game is raised = players are required to put more quality into the game. National coaches would have to prepare the players more for the calculated games = more workload = more likely physical and mental burn out.

Neymar Messi and many Barcelona players form dropped after the international break. Not all involved in calculated games.
 
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That graphic reminds me of the battling seizure robots from the Simpsons episode in Japan.
 
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