UEFA Euros Draft R1- Himannv vs Michaelf

Who would win this match based on Euros performances?

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Team Himmanv

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Team Michaelf

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Himmanv Writeup/tactics

Coach: Johan Cruyff
Formation: 4-3-3
Tactics:
  • Total football
  • High line
  • Play them off the park

Michael writeup/tactics
Players Achievements in Euro's

GK: Gianluigi Buffon - Team of Tournament: Euro 08 and Euro 12; All-time Euro XI*

RB: Kyle Walker - Team of Tournament: Euro 20 and Euro 24

CB: Carles Puyol - Team of Tournament: Euro 08; All-time Euro XI*

CB: Laurent Blanc - Team of Tournament: Euro 92, Euro 96 and Euro 00

LB: Raphaël Guerreiro - Team of Tournament: Euro 16

DM: Sami Khedira - Team of Tournament: Euro 12

LCM: Michael Ballack - Team of Tournament: Euro 04 and Euro 08

RCM: Valentin Ivanov - Team of Tournament: Euro 60 and Euro 64; Joint Top Scorer: Euro 60

RW: Slava Metreveli - Team of Tournament: Euro 60

ST: Zlatan Ibrahimović - Team of Tournament: Euro 12

LW: Dragan Džajić - Team of Tournament: Euro 68 and Euro 76; Golden Boot: Euro 68

* - In 2016 prior to the Euro's Tournament, UEFA published, based on votes cast on twitter and EURO2016.com, an All-time Euro XI. To be chosen plyers had to meet at least two of the following criteria: Reached a Euro's Semifinal; Chosen in a Team of the Tournament; Finished as Top Goalscorer; Produced an iconic Euro moment
 
Wait, Walker got included in this year’s team of the tournament? :lol:
 
Physiocrat said:
@Himannv Sell me Raul here. He looks out of place in an otherwise excellent setup
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I think in a 4-3-3 his best position is on the right where his natural left foot comes into play.

In my view he's a very versatile player and is generally a bit of a roamer. He'd normally be SS in a 4-4-2 but in a 4-3-3 with a false 9 he's all set to attack the box a bit and also switch positions all along that front line since this is a total football setup. He's great off the ball and great on it as well so I see him as a good fit for the tactic and that position. I don't like to tie him down to a no 9 position here and I think RWF with freedom to roam and also arrive in the box is the best option for this tactic.

The main reason I picked him though is more simpler. Euro 2000 was one of my favorite tournaments and he was my favorite player in that tournament and for a few years after as well. He even had a Baggio-style penalty miss. I supported that Spain team with Raul, Lucha, Mendieta, etc. He was electric that tournament, popping up with a few goals but also his all round play was excellent.
 
Šjor Bepo said:
and carvajal was brilliant
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Yeah, it should've been either Carvajal, who had a stellar tournament or Kimmich, who was very influential for Germany (but probably Carvajal). Walker was non-existent attacking-wise and uncharacteristically questionable defensively.
 
Himannv said:
I think in a 4-3-3 his best position is on the right where his natural left foot comes into play.

In my view he's a very versatile player and is generally a bit of a roamer. He'd normally be SS in a 4-4-2 but in a 4-3-3 with a false 9 he's all set to attack the box a bit and also switch positions all along that front line since this is a total football setup. He's great off the ball and great on it as well so I see him as a good fit for the tactic and that position. I don't like to tie him down to a no 9 position here and I think RWF with freedom to roam and also arrive in the box is the best option for this tactic.

The main reason I picked him though is more simpler. Euro 2000 was one of my favorite tournaments and he was my favorite player in that tournament and for a few years after as well. He even had a Baggio-style penalty miss. I supported that Spain team with Raul, Lucha, Mendieta, etc. He was electric that tournament, popping up with a few goals but also his all round play was excellent.
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That's understandable. I suppose my major concern is how many off the ball runs he would make. I remember him liking dropping deep more and being a part of the build up. In a 433 my immediate thought is False 9 for Raul.

In 2000, did Spain play 4231 with Valeron as 10 and Raul as 9?
 
brilliant side from hman, only thing i dislike is dijk baresi partnership but mike has his issues(main one khedira playing role that doesnt suit him) so total football gets the vote
 
harms said:
Yeah, it should've been either Carvajal, who had a stellar tournament or Kimmich, who was very influential for Germany (but probably Carvajal). Walker was non-existent attacking-wise and uncharacteristically questionable defensively.
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Aye, weird one. Walker really struggled in the first four games, both offensively when he had time on the ball when he looked like a league 2 player compared to Trent, and defensively, particularly against Slovakia.

I thought there were several top LB performers and most of them were better than the RBs.
 
Physiocrat said:
That's understandable. I suppose my major concern is how many off the ball runs he would make. I remember him liking dropping deep more and being a part of the build up. In a 433 my immediate thought is False 9 for Raul.

In 2000, did Spain play 4231 with Valeron as 10 and Raul as 9?
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Spain mostly played 4-4-2. He likes dropping deep but I feel he's not a false 9 because his game isn't about positioning. His movement off the ball is quite good and he's generally not a player who needs the ball at his feet to be effective. He moves into goal scoring positions when he knows there's a chance to score but otherwise he's a roamer..
 
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