U23s Squad Season 2017-2018

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With a very strong group of current U18s players coming up next season, it's quite interesting to see how the U23s manager (whether it's Butt or someone else) will decide the make up of the squad. Here are all the options excluding new signings if there's any:

GKs: whoever stay
CBs: Tuanzebe, Williams, Poole, Warren, Scott, (O'Connor')
FBs: Riley, Mitchell, Olosunde, Scott, Kenyon, (O'Connor), (Tanner)
CMs: Willock, Redmond, McTominay, Kehinde, Scott, Hamilton, Whelan, Buffonge, Sang?, (Barlow)
AMs/Wingers: Harrop, Gribbin, Buffonge, Dearnley, Boonen, Makela?, (Gomes), (Chong)
Strikers: Bohui, Dearnley, (Burkart)

With the plethora of options in midfield and attack, perhaps many of the older lads will be let go. Still looks like the manager will have a hard time picking his XI, which is a massive difference from this season. The main concern would still be strikers though when and if Bohui is injured.

If we get a good U23s manager in, the U23s next season will probably be the one to watch.

What do you know think will be our regular line-up? Who will be the standouts from this team next season?
 
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Some of those players won't be here. Would not want to guess which ones. We would still have a striker problem as you say.

Players to watch for me would be Buffonge, Hamilton and Williams.

btw it's Olosunde.
 
Is the under 23 system working for us? How many of these lads realistically stand a chance of breaking into the first team? Would any of these players be better off on loan at good championship sides? Pereira is doing well, though CBJ had a tough time at Wolves.
 
Is the under 23 system working for us? How many of these lads realistically stand a chance of breaking into the first team? Would any of these players be better off on loan at good championship sides? Pereira is doing well, though CBJ had a tough time at Wolves.

Well most of the highest rated names among those listed above are still playing U18s football at the moment so they'll need some times with the U23s first. The gap between U23s and first team is quite big but it's still a massive step up from U18s to U23s since you might potentially play against some players 3-5 years older than you or even more.

Tuanzebe is probably due for a Championship loan next season if he isn't used by Mourinho. Same with Mitchell. Probably Williams and Poole will follow them in the second half of the season (Williams was injured for most of this season).
 
I'd be just looking to bring the u18s up as a group, keep them playing together. Willock, Redmond, McTominay, and Harrop all moved on. Tuanzebe, Riley, and Mitchell on loan with Poole and maybe Williams going in January on loan. Warren and either O'Connor or Scott then become the CB pairing depending on where we want to play O'Connor. He should be a regular next season anyway.
 
For me the two players I genuinely rate across the u23/18s are Lee O'Connor and Aidan Barlow.

Tuanzebe has looked overconfident this season and been exposed, Poole could be more of a Mourinho defender if he grows a bit more. Gomes is obviously a class act but could still go either way.

Barlow to me has a Scholes-esque swagger and immense technique; also a bit of the Christian Eriksen about him. He's not a Mourinho player, but luckily I can't see Jose being around when he's first-team ready anyway.
 
Read this today, not that much to read but anyway:
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/683/...e-teenage-stars-to-watch-at-man?ICID=AR_PN_10
Which of the Red Devils' promising talents should supporters most get excited about? Goal counts down five young gems to keep an eye on

While the gold-plated success of the Class of '92 was something of a one-off, it was by no means a complete oddity. Manchester United Football Club is renowned for its long list of youth products who have made it at the top end of the game.

The challenge for the Old Trafford giants is to maintain that reputation with continued success stories at development level, and there are some decent bets among their current crop. First-team regular and England striker Marcus Rashford is far from the only teenager on United's books who could be considered a young man to watch very closely in the future.

Goal selects five talents to keep an eye on.

TAHITH CHONG

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The Dutch youngster may well be in the midst of a lengthy spell on the sidelines after sustaining a serious knee injury playing for the under-18s side against Everton in January, but he remains one of the most talked-about prospects at Carrington.

A tall, thin, deceptively quick attacker, Chong stands out now only for his flowing afro haircut but also for the wonderful close control he is capable of on the run with his wand of a left foot.

Usually found starting on the right of the attacking midfield line, the 17-year-old has also been used from the left at times by United’s under-18s boss Kieran McKenna and looks equally at home in either position. He can finish, too, with his sensational effort with his back to goal against Southampton at Old Trafford in the FA Youth Cup proving a YouTube favourite.

TIMOTHY FOSU-MENSAH

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Most United fans will, of course, need little introduction to Timo Fosu-Mensah, with him having broken into the first-team squad under Louis van Gaal in the second half of 2015-16.

But that only really tells half of the story for the Dutch utility man, with his appearances at right-back and centre-back in the Premier League masking the fact he can also play as an all-action central midfielder.

It was in the engine room that he played the majority of his football before his call-up to senior level, and his quality in the midfield combined with that flexibility could yet be the making of him.

His standing in Jose Mourinho’s plans may be a concern, but there are few that believe Fosu-Mensah will not make it at the top level at some point.

ANGEL GOMES

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For many observers of United’s youth ranks, Angel Gomes is the next great hope, with his seemingly natural instinct for the No. 10 role making him a much talked-about prospect.

Born in England, Gomes’ father Gil represented Portugal at every age group between under-16 and under-21 during a nomadic career which ended with stints at north-west clubs Middlewich Town, Salford City and Hyde United.

However, Angel could be set for much greater things if his often-mesmeric ability on the ball can be harnessed over the next few years. He drifts into space between the lines with consummate ease and has an excellent right foot, an eye for a pass, and a real self-confidence in front of goal.

It says much about Gomes that at the age of 16 he is an England youth regular, a first choice for United’s under-18s and is even the top scorer this season for Kieran McKenna’s side with 11 goals.

CALLUM GRIBBIN

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Players with Callum Gribbin’s level of skill on the ball are worth their weight in gold and it was a huge boost to many at Old Trafford that he signed a new four-year deal with United in 2015 when it looked for all money as though he was set for a move to arch-rivals Liverpool.

The wiry attacking midfielder has not just immense quality on the ball but also an arrogant confidence when taking on challengers. His ability to beat a man either with pace or with trickery makes him one of the most watchable players of his age group.

He also has a wonderful set-piece repertoire in him too, with opponents regularly punished for conceding free-kick within shooting range.

Such is his development in recent times, he has also become a regular at under-23 level under Nicky Butt this term despite still being eligible for under-18s football.

AXEL TUANZEBE

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It didn’t take long for Axel Tuanzebe to win over Mourinho in the Portuguese manager’s first game in charge of United at Wigan last July.

“You can play 90 minutes or one minute and sometimes one minute is enough,” the two-time Champions League winner said. “With Axel – 10 minutes is enough! The potential is there, you could see it immediately.”

The commanding centre-back has since then been an ever-present and captain for Nicky Butt’s under-23s and he was even given his first-team debut as a second-half substitute in the FA Cup win over Wigan in January.

Of all of United’s young prospects, Tuanzebe has perhaps the best hope of breaking into Mourinho’s thoughts on a more regular basis in the next couple of years having demonstrated his excellent man-marking qualities and dominance in the air with some regularity.
 
MEN says that we've finally made our decision on the new U23 manager and the announcement will made in the near future.
 
What's happening to Wilson then? Any news on his recovery? Have we given up on him? Having him stick around for a year in the reserves and try to rebuild his career from there could be good for him. Still plenty of time for the lad. It'd also solve the striker problem.
 
I assume it will be the guy from Chelsea? I'd be very surprised if Karanka is ready to step down to managing reserve team football
 
I dont really know much about the youth players at all but Tuanzabe and Mensah both already seem worthy of squad spots in the first eleven and more games too than this season from what I have seen. How did Chong do before his injury as he seemed to get a lot of hype when we signed him?
 
I dont really know much about the youth players at all but Tuanzabe and Mensah both already seem worthy of squad spots in the first eleven and more games too than this season from what I have seen. How did Chong do before his injury as he seemed to get a lot of hype when we signed him?
He hasn't played for the u23s.
 
Just a wild guess but can see United going for an experienced, proven Youth Coach maybe from a Foreign Academy.

Maybe someone like Said Ouaali from Ajax or his equivalent at Benfica or similar?
 
Am I the only one who liked Butt as the U23 manager? Sure, it was a messy season, but we hardly had a squad. To be fair, I think I read that Butt doesn't want the job anyway?
 
Just a wild guess but can see United going for an experienced, proven Youth Coach maybe from a Foreign Academy.

Maybe someone like Said Ouaali from Ajax or his equivalent at Benfica or similar?
I think we'll likely keep to british coaches in the youth setup. Viveash who was with Chelsea is more likely.

Am I the only one who liked Butt as the U23 manager? Sure, it was a messy season, but we hardly had a squad. To be fair, I think I read that Butt doesn't want the job anyway?
I think he is better tasked in his role as head of development and over seeing everything. He hasn't shown to be particularly great as a manager anyway. And frankly, getting in to shouting arguments with the players when he was with the u19s doesn't show him in a very good light either.
 
I think we'll likely keep to british coaches in the youth setup. Viveash who was with Chelsea is more likely.


I think he is better tasked in his role as head of development and over seeing everything. He hasn't shown to be particularly great as a manager anyway. And frankly, getting in to shouting arguments with the players when he was with the u19s doesn't show him in a very good light either.
I've seen this point about Butt arguing with the players made a few times but it seems to be entirely based on some tweets from Luckhurst which were just him making a big deal out of nothing
 
I've seen this point about Butt arguing with the players made a few times but it seems to be entirely based on some tweets from Luckhurst which were just him making a big deal out of nothing
Any guesses as to who is our next u23 coach?
 
Am I the only one who liked Butt as the U23 manager? Sure, it was a messy season, but we hardly had a squad. To be fair, I think I read that Butt doesn't want the job anyway?

Just my opinion, but Butt is the worst manager in history. I'm delighted that he wants to run The Academy instead.
 
I've seen this point about Butt arguing with the players made a few times but it seems to be entirely based on some tweets from Luckhurst which were just him making a big deal out of nothing
Was it? Tbh I've got quite a bad memory. I thought I remembered seeing it during the game a bit but then really I wouldn't have been able to hear what they were saying to each other anyway. So yea I'm likely completely wrong lol. There is very little to judge it off really so no clue how good Butt would be. He seems to prefer the head position though and he seems to be doing a great job in the role so I'm happy with him there. Wouldn't mind at all either if he wanted a go at the u23s full time.
 
Was it? Tbh I've got quite a bad memory. I thought I remembered seeing it during the game a bit but then really I wouldn't have been able to hear what they were saying to each other anyway. So yea I'm likely completely wrong lol. There is very little to judge it off really so no clue how good Butt would be. He seems to prefer the head position though and he seems to be doing a great job in the role so I'm happy with him there. Wouldn't mind at all either if he wanted a go at the u23s full time.
Yeah I think he's better off focusing on the head of the academy role
 
Any chance we go out and buy a ST for our u23s or is that to high a level for purchase a youth player who fits the criteria of being affordable, happy to be a reserve and have potential to develop.

I stopped watching u23s last season because the way we set up for games seemed so negative with McTominay up top it showed parallels of our periods in the seniors with Fellaini furthest up the pitch.

I hope the days of us having that prolific striker in the reserves/academy aren't gone for too long.
 
Any chance we go out and buy a ST for our u23s or is that to high a level for purchase a youth player who fits the criteria of being affordable, happy to be a reserve and have potential to develop.

I stopped watching u23s last season because the way we set up for games seemed so negative with McTominay up top it showed parallels of our periods in the seniors with Fellaini furthest up the pitch.

I hope the days of us having that prolific striker in the reserves/academy aren't gone for too long.
Extremely unlikely, we don't buy players for the u23s. Bohui will be promoted and be the main striker most likely.
 
Any chance we go out and buy a ST for our u23s or is that to high a level for purchase a youth player who fits the criteria of being affordable, happy to be a reserve and have potential to develop.

I stopped watching u23s last season because the way we set up for games seemed so negative with McTominay up top it showed parallels of our periods in the seniors with Fellaini furthest up the pitch.

I hope the days of us having that prolific striker in the reserves/academy aren't gone for too long.
Very unlikely since we'll have Bohui, Dearnley and Boonen moving up from the u18s who can all play striker and Burkart will probably get some games as well. Next season should have a far better balance to the team with decent depth in all positions with the lads moving up full time from the u18s and some of the 2nd year u18s likely to play a lot as well
 
Looking forward to seeing how this will look post-retained list and factoring in possible loans for Harrop and others.

I'd like to see Wilson regain his fitness in this squad and see where it leads - if northing else he would be worth a fair amount if he had a decent season on loan once fully fit again.