tyson fight-when does it start?

IMO Tyson only played for of the money, somehow I think he knew he didn't stand a chance against Williams in this time of his career.
 
Congratulations to Williams.The media did not give him a chance.On what evidence i'll never know Tyson as been washed up for a long time now and his living of his past.It's a shame because Tyson could have been a true legend in the game.
 
Tyson is 15 years past his sell by date. More like a freak show thesedays. What people do for money eh?
 
I like Tyson, I think deep down he is a good bloke although I am wondering if I would be saying that about an average joe who was found guilty of rape and assault. I wonder how the rest of his life will go. I hope he retires, but he seems to need the money and does he have anything else in his life?

It will be interesting to see how history assesses him in the all time greats list.
 
Drifter said:
Congratulations to Williams.The media did not give him a chance.On what evidence i'll never know Tyson as been washed up for a long time now and his living of his past.It's a shame because Tyson could have been a true legend in the game.


Tyson is a boxing legend. Of that there is no question.

He is still the youngest fighter to lift the Heavyweight title at 20, and that is one record that will take some shifting. For me, he was the most exciting fighter I've ever watched.........and I'm old enough to remember Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Norton, Holmes etc.
This kid, stepping into the ring in his ankle boots, no cloaks, flash shorts etc.......He was telling the world he had nothing but his hunger, not just winning fights, he was annihiliating everything before him. Tyson had fought 27 professional fights by the time he lifted the heavyweight crown at 20. Think about that. He won the title by leaving Trevor Berbick floundering around the ring like a fish out of water in the 2nd round. I still remember the look in Berbick's eyes, trying to get to his feet and falling from one corner of the ring to the next.
Like Red Sea said, his personal life is something else. He might've lifted the title at 20, but the death of his mentor Cus D'Mato a year earlier meant that he was ill-equipped to handle the success he'd been primed for and if your'e interested, you'd have to read his story to understand where Tyson, the man, came from. It ain't pretty.
Danny Williams is a nice guy and a reasonable fighter, certainly no better than that as a fighter, but it's a very sad end for Tyson to have lost to an opponent of that quality. Tyson is reputedly $20 million in debt, having blown a reputed $400 million in his 38 yr life. It may not be the last we've seen of him, even though it should be. 'Raging Bull' ......Jake La Motta's life story, wont hold a torch to Tyson's, I think.
 
Two things ruined Tyson from being the greatest ever.

1) death of Cus D'Amato, who was like a father to Tyson in the short years they worked together, and

2) Don King. King waived the money at Tyson and the young kid accepted and soon those around Tyson (simply for money) encouraged him to cut Kevin Rooney. The lack of quality professional coaching and training showed against Buster Douglas.

We could say Tyson ruined himself, but a person of Tyson's mindset is easily coerced by outside influence. I've always liked the guy though I've never met him.
 
MrMarcello said:
Two things ruined Tyson from being the greatest ever.

We could say Tyson ruined himself, but a person of Tyson's mindset is easily coerced by outside influence. I've always liked the guy though I've never met him.

I think Tyson was always going to be his own worst enemy I've read lots on him and his life was very hard and he was already a criminal by the time Cus got him. Had Cus lived I'm not sure if things would be different, Tyson would have rebelled at some time against Cus, we all do, its a fact of life and growing up. When I heard the early Tyson speak of the pleasure he got from hurting his opponent at times it was sickening, but it did show a very nasty streak. Yet today he seems more peaceful, whether its experience or anti depressants or a bit of both I'm not sure but we shouldn';t feel sorry for him, he has lived his life and crammed many more experiences than most of us will. I doubt he would swap.
 
Not to take anything away from Williams, but Tyson blew out his knee in the first round. The fact that he even made it to the 4th is a miracle. Reckon the result would've been different had both of Tyson's legs been there.
 
Honest John said:
A betting scam plain and simple.

What odd did Tyson have?

20/1 ON to win or something.


That's what I've been hearing.

Plenty of people reckon the fight was choreographed, as Tyson and Williams looked like they were fighting to a set plan.

Tyson got a huge purse, I think. The rematch, will be even more lucrative.

The boxing business stinks. And nothing should surprise us.
 
redcharlie said:
Tyson is a boxing legend. Of that there is no question.

He is still the youngest fighter to lift the Heavyweight title at 20, and that is one record that will take some shifting. For me, he was the most exciting fighter I've ever watched.........and I'm old enough to remember Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Norton, Holmes etc.
This kid, stepping into the ring in his ankle boots, no cloaks, flash shorts etc.......He was telling the world he had nothing but his hunger, not just winning fights, he was annihiliating everything before him. Tyson had fought 27 professional fights by the time he lifted the heavyweight crown at 20. Think about that. He won the title by leaving Trevor Berbick floundering around the ring like a fish out of water in the 2nd round. I still remember the look in Berbick's eyes, trying to get to his feet and falling from one corner of the ring to the next.
Like Red Sea said, his personal life is something else. He might've lifted the title at 20, but the death of his mentor Cus D'Mato a year earlier meant that he was ill-equipped to handle the success he'd been primed for and if your'e interested, you'd have to read his story to understand where Tyson, the man, came from. It ain't pretty.
Danny Williams is a nice guy and a reasonable fighter, certainly no better than that as a fighter, but it's a very sad end for Tyson to have lost to an opponent of that quality. Tyson is reputedly $20 million in debt, having blown a reputed $400 million in his 38 yr life. It may not be the last we've seen of him, even though it should be. 'Raging Bull' ......Jake La Motta's life story, wont hold a torch to Tyson's, I think.


I agree with all that. I can't think of a sportsman who's had a more tragic life.

He was an amazing fighter, in the 80's. I used to worry for his opponents. Can't say I've ever felt the same for opponents of other great fighters.

I wonder how different things would've been had Cus been around longer. And had he not mixed with the the leeches, who helped bring him down.