Tuppet vs Boris - Tactical Draft

Who created a better environment for their star player to shine?


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Team Tuppet

Tactics:
Philosophy/Ideology of Tactical set-up:
We've set up in a similar manner to the Fergie's first great Utd team of 94. Its a 4-4-1-1 with a focus on fast attacks & counterattacks using wingplay, a strong double pivot in midfield and Litmanen as the heart of attack both as a playmaker and goalscorer.

Defensive line - Normal
Playing style - fast paced, one touch football.
Creative Freedom - More Disciplined approach, apart from Litmanen, Ribery & Kanchelskis, not many people are tasked to show too much flair. Litmanen is the hub of every attack and is the primary playmaker/trequartista. Not much roaming except from Litmanen.
Closing down - Less closing down generally with just Schweinsteiger and Lerby doing the leg work, allowing quick counter attacks down both flanks. Even though none of my attackers could be considered lazy, we are not trying to press from front.
Specialized roles - Lerby as ball winner/ box to box, Schweini in a box to box playmaking role. Voller as a target man.

Central Player: JARI LITMANEN
He was a special breed of playmaker, a player born out of Johan Cruyff’s counter-intuitive liberal theories. He was not the artist playmaker – Jari was the antithesis of modern art – but he was functional and brilliant. He was an everyman.

Litmanen is at best as a creative second striker / Attacking midfielder and flourish with both playmaking and goal scoring responsibilities. By 1995 Litmanen was the best attacking midfielder in the world. There is an anonymity to his brilliance: He seldom dribbles or flies in with a tackle or fires home from 30 yards. Typically he sends a precise ball to wings and then surges stiffly into the box to finish off. Passing and scoring, passing & scoring. That was also his gripe with classic playmaking number 10s.

He said - "Zidane is fantastic on the ball, he also defends well, but he scores too little. Veron passes with feeling, is an outstanding playmaker, scores too little."

He is fairly versatile and would work well in many formations, but I think a 4-4-1-1 with genuine wingers and a solid midfield platform would be one of the best way to maximize his talents. I obviously thought of replicating LVG's classic Ajax tactic, but don't want to do an exact remake. The idea in my current tactic is to have a squad which is very good in itself but needs a mercurial talisman in attack to take it to the next level, much like Cantona did for us or Bergkemp / Zola did for Arsenal / Chelsea etc. Once this was decided the rest of the squad was rather easy to pick -

Striker - Complete striker/Targetman - Voller
Voller is one of the top strikers in the pool anyway but its his all rounded-ness that makes him a perfect fit for our squad. Voller was good in air, had great pace, a ruthless finisher, can hold the ball, work well with another striker (e.g. his Klinsmann partnership), a decent dribbler who can participate in moves outside the box and is creative enough to fashion his own chances. He is a very good reference point around which the 3 of 4-2-3-1 can revolve, and can both create & put away chances for Litmanen.

Wingers - Ribery / Kanchelsiks
Ribery / Kanchelskis forms a classic wing attack with Ribery being the more playmaker style player on the left side and Kenchelskis being the more direct, fast & furious winger on the right side. The obvious comparison is Robbery (Robben/Ribery) partnership, which is one of the best winger partnerships of modern times. While Kan-Kan didn't have the Robben impact for very long, at his peak he was a similar player. A speed demon with great ball control and knack for scoring goals, Kanchelskis bring the ability to pin opposition defenses back and provide a lightning fast counter attack route.

Ribery is one of the best pure wingers in the pool and at his peak was best player in the world. His pace, dribbling, vision & passing would provide another playmaker in the team which would allow Litmanen to be truly in a free role, but at the same time he is not just a playmaker in wide role ala David Silva, he is a winger first and foremost and would strech the opposition defense creating space for Liti & Voller.

Fullbacks - Abidal / Sagnol
Since we are playing with 2 classic wingers and are not dependent upon our fullbacks to provide attacking width, we don't need flank dominating wingbacks e.g. - Maicon/Alves/Cabrini . What we need is 2 classic fullbacks who are good defenders first and can provide overlaps to help their wingers. Abidal / Sagnol fits perfectly in this description, both played together (along with Ribery) for France for many years, and came agonizingly close to a world cup win, with great defensive displays. They are also placed correctly on the field with the more adventurous Sagnol - who perfected the overlapping runs & has great cross on him - behind Kanchelskis. While more conservative Abidal playing behind Ribery, who would stay in wider areas more.

Midfield duo - Schweinsteiger / Lerby
For a 90s 4-4-2/4-4-1-1 midfield duo, the norm is to have 2 fairly complete midfielders who can cover a lot of ground in a double pivot. Think Keane-Butt or Vieira-Petit. Schweini - Lerby partnership represents a terrifying cocktail of an impressive psyche, footballing ability and a will to win bordering on the brink of insanity. While both could be classified as box to box midfielder, Schweinsteiger would take more of a playmaking role and Lerby with his incredible stamina would be tasked with winning the ball all over the field. It seem to me an upgraded version of world cup winning Schweinsteiger - Khedira midfield duo. Its a solid foundation upon which Liti can work his magic.

Center Backs - Hansen / Perfumo
There is not much here, both Hansen & Perfumo are legendary defenders and compliment each other well with Hansen being more cultured on the ball while Perfumo playing as a more rugged stopper. Both are fairly complete though and can take each others role.

Finally Walter Zenga is an awesome shot stopper. An old fashioned defense first goalkeeper he was brilliant in Italy winning all sort of awards like IFFHS goalkeeper of the year 3 times and Serie A footballer of the year.

Overall I think we have a very functional squad with Multiple goal scoring routes in Voller & Kanchelskis and great passers all over the field in Ribery, Schweinsteiger & Hansen. This allows Jari Littman to be the conductor doing whatever he feels needs doing, whether it is working in the final third scoring goals, using his brilliant passing to create chances or fighting in the midfield battle. Its a lot of responsibility but this is what I feel would transform our squad to the next level.

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Team Boris

This team has been designed to get the best out of the greatest Scottish and Liverpool player of all time, Kenny Dalglish. The principles of the team are based around the Liverpool teams he would have played in in the 70s and 80s that were a dominant force in English and European football, where during Dalglish's time there as a player he won 6 league titles and 3 European cups.

Therefore the style of play will be possession based, with one narrow wide player and a key emphasis on the front two. Unfortunately there are no pass backs, but this has been partly modified by having a goalkeeper who is excellent with the ball at his feet in Lloris, and an entire unit of players capable of playing out from the back. There is plenty of aggression and workrate in the midfield, combined with the technical quality to feed balls into King Kenny's feet in space, and the quality of movement ahead of him to thread balls through to.

A key feature of that Liverpool team was pressing from the front, however in van Nistlerooy and Moulijn I don't necessarily have the players to do that, therefore without the ball the team will sit back slightly and engage the press from behind the half way line.

This system will get the best out of Dalglish because it basically is the system that he got great success out of.

Defence
Defensive Line - The defence will play with a fluid line depending on the situation. Popescu had a good sense of positioning and anticipation and Lucio was extremely powerful and quick, so in terms of a central defensive partnership defensive wise they suit each other quite well and can play in any type of line. Lucio would tend to be the man to attack the ball with Popescu being a bit more reactive. Full backs wouldn't be tucking in that often.

One the ball - Popescu is an extremely good alternative to Hansen in the ball playing role, having played a lot of time in midfield he will have a role as a playmaker from deep. The full backs will look to support the attack from deep and fill the spaces vacated by inside movements from the wide players, particularly on the right. I can't imagine any manager would have a choice in the matter of stopping Lucio from engaging in one o his surging runs every now and then, which would obviously mean Cerzo and Ardilles dropping back slightly to cover.

Midfield
Shape - The great Liverpool teams usually involved some combination of a holding player who could protect the defense but also dictate play and a more roaming box-to-box player, with wide players cutting inside, and I have tried to replicate that here.

Cerezo was a key component of what was essentially a midfield two for one of the greatest world cup sides of all time in Brazil in 1982. He was capable of getting about the pitch, shutting out attacks, and had the technical ability to dictate play from midfield to world class level.

Beside him Ardilles was a complete box-to-box player who could basically do everything you would want in a midfielder, and with the protection of Cerezo would have the ability to support the front players. Slightly to the right Gerrard is in a hybrid right sided central midfield/right midfield role.

On the left I have Coen Moulijn who many say is the greatest Feyenoord player of all time. He was very quick and was an exceptional dribbler and a fantastic crosser, who played as both an inside and outside left, so brings a nice blend to the side.

On the ball - Depending on the state of play, the midfield and defense will operate to two strategies. If in a position of strength, the team will look to retain possession as much as possible and kill the game. Everyone from the keeper up is capable of playing smart possession football and taking the ball into feet. If chasing the game there is a huge amount of creativity and attacking ability in the side, and a much more aggressive approach can be taken with a mixture of short and direct passing.

Without the ball - The midfield will look to become narrow with Dalglish dropping off slightly into space more than as a defender as the out ball for counter attacks. Any opportunities of a press will probably revolve around Gerrard's side, the combination of he, Cerezo and Ardilles in a midfield would be extremely difficult to break through.

Attack

Clearly this is not exactly a like-for-like replacement for the Dalglish-Rush partnership, Ruud did not have the same pace or workrate as the Welshman. But Ruud was a better finisher, and while he may have lacked electric pace his positional sense, movement, and anticipation mean that this team, and Dalglish in particular, will create a lot of chances for him, and Ruud was clinical.

Point of Note
You can argue that this is not Gerrard's best position, but I would argue this is the perfect place to put him. His main weaknesses were a lack of positional awareness with a tendency to leave massive gaps when playing as a deeper centre mid, and a propensity to try stupid hollywood passes and shots. Although he will have a lot of creative freedom, from this position a lot of that is removed. In Popescu, Cerezo, and Dalglish there are three key playmakers, so all he has to worry about is making surging forward runs beyond Dalglish, picking out RVN in the penalty area, and dumbed down defensive duties getting back to the right of Cerezo.
 
  • Draft matches would be decided based on who has crafted/built the more coherent and cohesive tactical set-up around his main star as opposed to who might win in a fantasy encounter. Hopefully, this paves way for interesting discussions on the set-ups themselves - delving deeper into the creation/evolution etc of said set-up - and the personnel fit.
  • Voters are asked to consider the XIs featured as 2 separate teams not like a classic game of football, and to consider to what extent the manager has succeeded in building around his central figure. This is not a fantasy match but a comparison of 2 tactical attempts.
  • Teams will be built and judged for best tactical fits rather then the quality of the team. First, team has to be perfectly built around the central figure, if both teams are very close then you look at the other specific pairings, good fits for the team etc. if the level is still close then you watch at quality of the individual players except of the central player.

good luck @Tuppet @BorisDeLeFora
 
Right I may as well get this started, the point of this is to develop a system to get the best out of Dalglish, Dalglish was a great goal scorer, but what was more impressive was his ability to create and develop goal scoring chances for others, thus a key component of getting the best out of Dalglish is getting the best out of van Nistelrooy.

As you can see below (and presumably already know), Ruud was an excellent finisher, but what is vitally important in this context is the amount of goals he scores from getting himself into positions between defenders just on the offside line, as well as finding openings inside the box.



With the creative ability and technique Kenny had, as well as his ability to find space and hold off opponents, he will almost always spot Ruud in those positions, and more often than not he will pick him out.

Alan Shearer on Dalglish: "He would take the defender out of the game with a pass and put backspin on the ball so it sat up, inviting the shot. Class."

Ian Rush owed a huge amount of his goals to Dalglish, and van Nistelrooy is arguably a level above him.
 
I think this is the cleanest match-up so far. Both sides excellent IMO. A minor point on both sides. For Boris, Popescu and Lucio will both want to blast forward from time to time, same for the full-backs. I'm sure they can take it in turns, and a great set of defenders with quality on the ball, but a consideration nonetheless. For Tuppet, it's a good set up for any 10 really - I'd agree that Litmanen is maybe slightly more support striker in the types of runs he makes and may also benefit from a little more intricate link-up play around him.

Loads of positives though - great Dalglish/RVN partnership, love the inclusion of Gerrard - I think he'd thrive off Dalglish and it builds a theme. On the other side, it's an awesome central midfield partnership and a very complementary defence.
 
Great teams guys - well done. Both setups look pretty good and will come to personal preference. From first sight I like Tuppets a tad more in defense. Will see how the discussion go before voting on this one.
 
Both teams seem spot on. Great job to both managers. I', particularly impressed with the Gerrard as RM as I've always thought he wasn't a good fit for most systems and tough play to make work but the way he is used here its hard to see anything wrong with it. On the other side Tuppet has a typically well constructed team with no obvious flaws. Hard to vote in this one really.
 
Loads of positives though - great Dalglish/RVN partnership, love the inclusion of Gerrard - I think he'd thrive off Dalglish and it builds a theme. On the other side, it's an awesome central midfield partnership and a very complementary defence.

Can't really hate RvN in any team, but I felt recreating the Rush partnership would have been better. Kenny used to operate the Inside Right channels a lot and I somehow think he'll overlap a lot with Gerrard, considering there's not much width that side.
 
Can't really hate RvN in any team, but I felt recreating the Rush partnership would have been better. Kenny used to operate the Inside Right channels a lot and I somehow think he'll overlap a lot with Gerrard, considering there's not much width that side.
Yeah I like Dalglish-RVN, don't see it as massively different from his partnership with Rush. There's Jorginho too down that right who was very attacking and gifted going forward.
 
Harsh scoreline for Boris. Probably of the scouse influence.

From what I read, Mouljin is a very underrated player but an exceptionally talented left winger with comparisons to Stanley Matthews and Johann Cruyff, pacey and talented. My only concern is that the team would be better off with a genuine wide midfielder than Gerrard there, but since this is built around Kenny, Stevie G can do some wideish shuttling.

Litmanen could have done with some more playmakers around. I'd have preferred Litti/Michel type wingers rather than Ribery.
 
Harsh scoreline for Boris. Probably of the scouse influence.

From what I read, Mouljin is a very underrated player but an exceptionally talented left winger with comparisons to Stanley Matthews and Johann Cruyff, pacey and talented. My only concern is that the team would be better off with a genuine wide midfielder than Gerrard there, but since this is built around Kenny, Stevie G can do some wideish shuttling.

Litmanen could have done with some more playmakers around. I'd have preferred Litti/Michel type wingers rather than Ribery.

Never liked the scoreline hints.

The bold part is difficult to understand for me. To begin with Litmanen showed his absolute best in an attack surrounded by Overmars, Findi George, Kanu/Kluivert with midfield support from Seedorf/Davids & De Boer. Neither of those winger was a better playmaker than Ribery, and IMO neither midfielder was a better playmaker than Schweini.

Also if playmaking is the problem surely you would want Kanchelskis replaced there ? more importantly what made you believe Michel was a better playmaker than Ribery ? Thats underrating Ribery quite a bit IMO who has been playmaker of a fantastic Bayern side for quite a few years now. Also the system I am playing, Cantona played with Giggs/Kancheskis, who again are worse playmakers than Ribery.
 
Something feels off with Litmanen - Völler partnership, I don't know. Just a feeling - since Litmanen was really one of a kind and hardly comparable to any other #10's, and I'm not fully buying him in a simple 4-2-3-1
 
Went with Boris, think he built a great team tactically but lacks quality in some department which is maybe the reason he is behind so much. Kenny and Ruud look great together, personally i love Stevie on the wing, for most of his career id prefer right mid/ss version of Stevie to the classic midfield version and he also fits with his style to the team in that position.

As for tuppets team, something is just off in that front three, id prefer something more flexible with a lot of freedom(Ajax/Barca style). Midfield two behind Litmanen though:drool:
 
Gerrard and King Kenny combo looks unconvincing for the other team.
For a decent amount of time Kenny played on a team with Sammy Lee on the right hand side. He was basically a box-to-box cm playing on the right from what I have seen and had some similar characteristics to Gerrard in terms of having a great engine and being a crisp passer of the ball.

The way I see this working is if Kenny does drift inside right balls will be pinged into his feet and he will either be able to lay it off for Gerrard arriving behind him or create some space for himself to play Gerrard through if he gets beyond him. I understand that at times they might get a little clogged but you would trust Gerrard to come up with a dynamic moment or two a game which could make a difference if Kenny gets his touch correct.

Harsh scoreline for Boris. Probably of the scouse influence.

From what I read, Mouljin is a very underrated player but an exceptionally talented left winger with comparisons to Stanley Matthews and Johann Cruyff, pacey and talented. My only concern is that the team would be better off with a genuine wide midfielder than Gerrard there, but since this is built around Kenny, Stevie G can do some wideish shuttling.

Perhaps, but I felt I needed players who would make diagonal runs more often than not, and the fact that Moulijn is noted as a pacey player helped in that regard, because otherwise there is limited pace in that attack, Gerrard could get going tbf but it was more power over a short distance.
 
Something feels off with Litmanen - Völler partnership, I don't know. Just a feeling - since Litmanen was really one of a kind and hardly comparable to any other #10's, and I'm not fully buying him in a simple 4-2-3-1
You made what I think was very good comparison of Litmanen in remake draft with Muller. Who played with Ribery/Robben/Lewandowski, my setup is very similar. I also think he was a creative second striker and within reason (every player is unique etc) compares favorably with the likes of Bergkamp (Whom he replaced) & Cantona.

I should have done a better job depicting it on the team sheet but I mentioned it many times in OP that its a 4-4-1-1 with Litmanen given a lot of responsibility with both playmaking & goal scoring, which is where he was at his best. He is not being used as a typical number 10 but as a second striker and could likely emerge the top scorer in the team.
 
Voted Boris because I reckon he's done a better job of bringing the best out of a more challenging star man.

Both teams have got their defences wrong. Boris with a gung-ho defensive pairing and Tuppet with a defence that isn't sufficiently gung-ho and looks rather static in a side that should be all about fluidity (something he nails with the front 5).
 
Something feels off with Litmanen - Völler partnership, I don't know. Just a feeling - since Litmanen was really one of a kind and hardly comparable to any other #10's, and I'm not fully buying him in a simple 4-2-3-1
Yep, it's too simple a 4-2-3-1 for a player that would thrive in a less predictable setup. I would look at the defensive setup for the root cause, not Völler.

Flying fullbacks and narrower AMs, or some assymmetry, anything more fluid will do.
 
Yep, it's too simple a 4-2-3-1 for a player that would thrive in a less predictable setup. I would look at the defensive setup for the root cause, not Völler.

Flying fullbacks and narrower AMs, or some assymmetry, anything more fluid will do.
Well may be you are right, but I nailed my colors to the mast by going with Fergie's 94 United setup, so there were never going to be flying fullbacks or narrower AMs. I obviously think Litmanen would be brilliant in Cantona role for that team and despite having a rather straightforward setup it was one of the most exciting teams that I have seen.
 
By the way, posted just 5 days ago:

Jesus that's some find, or I am just terrible at finding videos on the internet.

He actually picked up the ball on the touchline a lot more than I expected, was fond of getting in behind and playing one-twos which is key here, not sure about his right foot though. :nervous:
 
Well may be you are right, but I nailed my colors to the mast by going with Fergie's 94 United setup, so there were never going to be flying fullbacks or narrower AMs. I obviously think Litmanen would be brilliant in Cantona role for that team and despite having a rather straightforward setup it was one of the most exciting teams that I have seen.
Just get a more attacking fullback than Abidal for starters. I do rate him, but you need more oomph down the flanks so the likes of Ribery can cut in more and mix things up.

As it is everyone in the oppo defence has too crystal clear a job and I have Litmanen down as a specialist at exploiting havoc. More of that please.
 
Jesus that's some find, or I am just terrible at finding videos on the internet.

He actually picked up the ball on the touchline a lot more than I expected, was fond of getting in behind and playing one-twos which is key here, not sure about his right foot though. :nervous:
Lucky break. I know this channel, plus 90% of my youtube history is obscure players/games highlights. Youtube suggested van Hanegem's performance - and this guy takes one game and makes short compilations of every notable player from it, so I noticed the one with Moulijn
 
Just get a more attacking fullback than Abidal for starters. I do rate him, but you need more oomph down the flanks so the likes of Ribery can cut in more and mix things up.

As it is everyone in the oppo defence has too crystal clear a job and I have Litmanen down as a specialist at exploiting havoc. More of that please.

@Tuppet 's system is quite similar to how Müller plays in the hole at Bayern (or did until recently). I don't see a problem with it: everyone has a specific role, leaving Litmanen to do his thing. Every attacker trying to create havoc can't be good for building attacks. I will agree though that he could have had one attacking full-back, especially on Ribéry's side.

Can't make my mind up here. From the built of the team to the playing style to specific pairings, everything is good in both teams for me. Can we know more about Ardilles, @BorisDeLeFora ?
 
Wingers - Ribery / Kanchelsiks
Ribery / Kanchelskis forms a classic wing attack with Ribery being the more playmaker style player on the left side and Kenchelskis being the more direct, fast & furious winger on the right side. The obvious comparison is Robbery (Robben/Ribery) partnership, which is one of the best winger partnerships of modern times. While Kan-Kan didn't have the Robben impact for very long, at his peak he was a similar player. A speed demon with great ball control and knack for scoring goals, Kanchelskis bring the ability to pin opposition defenses back and provide a lightning fast counter attack route.

Is he trying to hide from the mob?
 
Just get a more attacking fullback than Abidal for starters. I do rate him, but you need more oomph down the flanks so the likes of Ribery can cut in more and mix things up.
It's a bit of a gamble. You need to get the best out of Central player, but if opponent also does the same it goes on to be a proper match. Abidal is kinda perfect for handling Kenny and Gerrard in a real match scenario.
 
Can't make my mind up here. From the built of the team to the playing style to specific pairings, everything is good in both teams for me. Can we know more about Ardilles, @BorisDeLeFora ?

Ardilles described himself as "My position was a little hard to define: half of my job was to create, the other half to defend. I wasn’t a wide-man like the type you see today, but rather a pure midfielder who you rarely saw in either area."

With a playmaker beside him to link up the play from a passing point of view, Ardilles is the link in terms of body, whether it be running from deep to make himself available in advanced positions, or taking players out of the game and carrying the ball forward with his exceptional dribbling ability.

The idea is that in certain situations Dalglish can hold the ball up and have a number of support options either backing him up or bombing on beyond him, and this is something that Ardilles would be adept at doing, whilst still maintaining that edge defensively. His dribbling allows for situations where if he breaks through whoever is pressing him he is charging at the oppositions defence and someone will have to come out to confront him, providing extra space for the forwards (Kenny) to exploit.

As for random stats, 63 caps for Argentina, won the world cup in 78, won a couple of trophies with spurs, PFA team of the year 1979.

Bonus, watch him here taking the piss out of a Nazi[/USER]


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@Tuppet 's system is quite similar to how Müller plays in the hole at Bayern (or did until recently). I don't see a problem with it: everyone has a specific role, leaving Litmanen to do his thing. Every attacker trying to create havoc can't be good for building attacks. I will agree though that he could have had one attacking full-back, especially on Ribéry's side.

Can't make my mind up here. From the built of the team to the playing style to specific pairings, everything is good in both teams for me. Can we know more about Ardilles, @BorisDeLeFora ?
Again, the issue isn't the front 5 but how the backline operates. Bayern presses and plays a high line with more expansive fullbacks than the ones here playing a "normal" line and with only the midfielders doing any closing down.

The instructions are in line with United in the mid-90s and here you are saying this looks like how Müller played for Bayern. No, it isn't, and deliberately so which is what I disagree with.

That's ultimately the entire point of the draft: Tuppet has gone for Litmanen in a Cantona 93-94 role and I think he would be better used/more pivotal in Bayern's recent setups. Interestingly, given how people argued defenders may be left late, it's his defensive setup that makes the whole difference between one and the other.
 
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Again, the issue isn't the front 5 but how the backline operates. Bayern presses and plays a high line with more expansive fullbacks than the ones here playing a "normal" line and with only the midfielders doing any closing down.

The instructions are in line with United in the mid-90s and here you are saying this looks like how Müller played for Bayern. No, it isn't, and deliberately so which is what I disagree with.

That's ultimately the entire point of the draft: Tuppet has gone for Litmanen in a Cantona 93-94 role and I think he would be better used/more pivotal in Bayern's recent setups. Interestingly, given how people argued defenders may be left late, it's his defensive setup that makes the whole difference between one and the other.

Ah I get your point now. Muller and Bayern are the wrong example to compare with given the tactics.

Having said that, the style of play here is counter-attacking, so lack of attacking full-backs shouldn't be that much of a problem. The question now is, whether Litmanen would thrive with this style, which is difficult to say since he usually played in possession-based systems.

My guess is he can. He has two wingers who are good at counter-attacks, will have plenty of space to operate in on the break and a talismanic figure like Voller to play off of.

The only problem I see now is with the restricted role of Soren Lerby:

"Creative Freedom - More Disciplined approach, apart from Litmanen, Ribery & Kanchelskis, not many people are tasked to show too much flair. Litmanen is the hub of every attack and is the primary playmaker/trequartista. Not much roaming except from Litmanen."

If he had attacking license, I would be sold on Tuppet's system. As of now I feel Boris shades it.
 
With a playmaker beside him to link up the play from a passing point of view, Ardilles is the link in terms of body, whether it be running from deep to make himself available in advanced positions, or taking players out of the game and carrying the ball forward with his exceptional dribbling ability.

The idea is that in certain situations Dalglish can hold the ball up and have a number of support options either backing him up or bombing on beyond him, and this is something that Ardilles would be adept at doing, whilst still maintaining that edge defensively. His dribbling allows for situations where if he breaks through whoever is pressing him he is charging at the oppositions defence and someone will have to come out to confront him, providing extra space for the forwards (Kenny) to exploit.

Thanks for the info. Looks like the last piece in your jigsaw, since Moulijn would be staying wide and Kenny usually in advanced areas. Having that extra man always helps.
 
Ah I get your point now. Muller and Bayern are the wrong example to compare with given the tactics.

Having said that, the style of play here is counter-attacking, so lack of attacking full-backs shouldn't be that much of a problem. The question now is, whether Litmanen would thrive with this style, which is difficult to say since he usually played in possession-based systems.

My guess is he can. He has two wingers who are good at counter-attacks, will have plenty of space to operate in on the break and a talismanic figure like Voller to play off of.

The only problem I see now is with the restricted role of Soren Lerby:

"Creative Freedom - More Disciplined approach, apart from Litmanen, Ribery & Kanchelskis, not many people are tasked to show too much flair. Litmanen is the hub of every attack and is the primary playmaker/trequartista. Not much roaming except from Litmanen."

If he had attacking license, I would be sold on Tuppet's system. As of now I feel Boris shades it.
Tuppet deliberately went for that setup and got the right players for that setup, one where Litmanen will work well.

Yet my understanding of this is you should build a side to get the very best out of your star man, which is where the objections kick in and what draws me to Boris being closer to accomplishing that.