Trent Alexander Arnold

Never get the beckham comparison at all, he could put the ball on any players head or foot from anywhere on the pitch, and hit his target perfectly 90% of the time. This guy needs a dozen crosses to get a good one.

Also, David Beckham may be seen as a lucury, flair type player, but he would run through a brick wall for his team on the pitch. He took responsibility and dragged teams to resuls they did not deserve, single handed.

TTA is not anything like the player beckham was, either in talent or attitude.
 
I do. I think he modelled his game on Beckham and that position doesn’t exist in the modern game. He was never going to compete with Salah for the RWF position and quite frankly he’s not going to compete with anyone for that position because that’s not where his skill set lies.


Honestly, I think Beckham would have found himself in the same place playing from right back. He had a similar venture into centre midfield and had the same limitations as TAA, which would only have been exaggerated now.
Bit harsh on Beckham I think, if we theorise he would have been coached to be a central midfielder from a very young age if he was coming through in today's game, I don't see any reason he couldn't have been great there. Great engine, touch, passing, crossing, shooting - he had all the attributes.
 
Bit harsh on Beckham I think, if we theorise he would have been coached to be a central midfielder from a very young age if he was coming through in today's game, I don't see any reason he couldn't have been great there. Great engine, touch, passing, crossing, shooting - he had all the attributes.
Yeah he had a lot more in his locker than Trent, the comparison is a lazy one.

In the modern game I could see Beckham as the third attacking midfielder, bit like KDB.
 
Can't believe how lazy he is in his defending. He knows he has his critics when it comes to defending, so you'd least expect to see maximum effort.

Obviously there may be times where he switches off or he gets beaten for pace/strength but to not even track runners or put in 100% is unforgiveable especially in a big game.
 
Absolute myth of a full back.
Spams 40 crosses in a game, a couple come off and people want to say he's the modern Beckham.
Lineker was at it on his podcast the other day, in fact even taking Trent's right foot for a world eleven!
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Yeah he had a lot more in his locker than Trent, the comparison is a lazy one.

In the modern game I could see Beckham as the third attacking midfielder, bit like KDB.
KBD is the player you'd want him to model his game on if he was coming through as a youth player now.
 
Yeah he had a lot more in his locker than Trent, the comparison is a lazy one.

In the modern game I could see Beckham as the third attacking midfielder, bit like KDB.
And to be fair, Trent may have been a good midfielder if he'd been coached to play there full time from the age of 12. But we'll never know, it's not the same trying to convert him for one-off games in his mid 20s.
 
And to be fair, Trent may have been a good midfielder if he'd been coached to play there full time from the age of 12. But we'll never know, it's not the same trying to convert him for one-off games in his mid 20s.
Maybe, but he doesn't seem to have the intensity and tenacity to play in the middle of the park.
 
Absolute myth of a full back.
Spams 40 crosses in a game, a couple come off and people want to say he's the modern Beckham.
Lineker was at it on his podcast the other day, in fact even taking Trent's right foot for a world eleven!

I've said this before too. He just boots it forward or towards the box and hopes for the best. On fbref he's in the 96th percentile for attempted passes, 99th for attempted progressive passes. He's in the 23rd percentile for pass completion.

Throw enough shit at the wall and some of it is bound to stick.
 
His defending was really rubbish all game but he also just looked like he couldn't be arsed most of the time. Great performance
 
I will say that one game of football doesn’t change the fact that he’s had a very good season. He’s mostly been better defensively this season. Today was his worst performance by a mile.

Kind of on Slot for not bringing him off after 60-70 minutes. He normally does if someone is having a stinker.
 
Can’t say I feel the same. But I do wonder what it’s really about. I remember him doing similar things before. It seems like a lack of concentration or awareness to the danger.
He’s been guilty of that throughout his career. The Sancho goal for United against us two years ago springs to mind. Like he switches off when he doesn’t have the ball.

Could be down to coaching and Klopp’s preference to favour attacking football.
 
He’s been guilty of that throughout his career. The Sancho goal for United against us two years ago springs to mind. Like he switches off when he doesn’t have the ball.

Could be down to coaching and Klopp’s preference to favour attacking football.
I also remember a disastrous performance in a CL away game - might have been Napoli.

I doubt it’s coaching. Seems intrinsic somehow.
 
I will say that one game of football doesn’t change the fact that he’s had a very good season. He’s mostly been better defensively this season. Today was his worst performance by a mile.

Kind of on Slot for not bringing him off after 60-70 minutes. He normally does if someone is having a stinker.
his brain was probably fried after being out-tacticed by the better man.
 
I will say that one game of football doesn’t change the fact that he’s had a very good season. He’s mostly been better defensively this season. Today was his worst performance by a mile.

Kind of on Slot for not bringing him off after 60-70 minutes. He normally does if someone is having a stinker.

Maybe the contract situation plays into that decision. You are trying to get him tied down right, despite the RM links?
 
Genuinely curious- what specific tactics from Amorim did you think took Slot by surprise today?
he promised he would also wear a stupid neck scarf thing before the game, so no one thought it was lame. a stroke of genius to then arrive pitch side without one, completely embarrassing slot.
 
Maybe the contract situation plays into that decision. You are trying to get him tied down right, despite the RM links?
I think we want him to stay but my opinion is that he’s already decided to go.

I guess the concern could be that he’s now agreed something with Real and his performances dip second half of the season because he’s out the door already.

Van Dijk looked like he wanted to punch him.
 
I’ve noticed with him that when he has a bad game, he has no mental fortitude whatsoever to turn it around. When he’s bad, it compounds and he gets worse and worse, primed to be made to work even harder. Very flat track with him; it’s either Liverpool mauling a side and him getting in on the action, or him struggling to hold his own as a two way player. Very little middle ground in his game.
 
I think we want him to stay but my opinion is that he’s already decided to go.

I guess the concern could be that he’s now agreed something with Real and his performances dip second half of the season because he’s out the door already.

Van Dijk looked like he wanted to punch him.

If the dressing room is doubting him you might as well ship him off in January.
 
I’ve noticed with him that when he has a bad game, he has no mental fortitude whatsoever to turn it around. When he’s bad, it compounds and he gets worse and worse, primed to be made to work even harder. Very flat track with him; it’s either Liverpool mauling a side and him getting in on the action, or him struggling to hold his own as a two way player. Very little middle ground in his game.
A few top players are like this.

When Bruno is having a stinker, it rarely gets better. He started fairly well today.

James Maddison is another. His bottom level can be really bad. His best level gets into nearly any team in the league. He makes the right decisions. He combine the risk/reward of a Bruno with the composure of a Carrick. He was on fire vs City.
 
It hasn't been though until today, he's noticeably putting more effort in defensively.

Agree on the sub, I assume Bradley just recovering from injury played a part but even still we could have switched it up in a different way earlier.
Either way, we need to get back to focusing on clean sheets defensively the way we were doing earlier in the season. Having Bradley and tsmikas to rotate in regularly/every game will help with that. Same with using Endo to close it out. We weren’t throwing away leads before.
 
If the dressing room is doubting him you might as well ship him off in January.
I’m skeptical his performances will dip because of that, he wants trophies and individual accolades/acclaim. He can get both of that this season. The performances will dip because he chooses not to focus and apply himself for 90 minutes. Hes perfectly capable of defending halfway competently.

I suspect he wants to go to Madrid because the lower intensity of the league will suit him down the ground. Hell get weekly compilations of his passing and trophies guaranteed virtually every year. You can’t begrudge him that, it’ll enhance his legacy and standing within football potentially. It’s just a shame he doesn’t want to at least try and do that at his boyhood club. But there’s no guarantee we replace our world class players under FSG. With Madrid it’s all setup. A bad year for them won’t knock them out of the top 4
 
That was one the worst performances, if not the worst, I've seen from him in a red shirt.

It's probably the butthurt talking, but I'd be OK with taking the 30m from Real now. I know he's great when he's on it, but I am up for seeing Bradley do a more conventional job at fullback for the remainder of the campaign.

We need a leftback too. Yet again, we've failed to heed Paisley's philosophy and allowed Robertson legs to go on our own pitch. Last summer would have been a fine time to buy a younger model and give him a year of gradually settling in. Now we're playing catch up again.
 
That was one the worst performances, if not the worst, I've seen from him in a red shirt.

It's probably the butthurt talking, but I'd be OK with taking the 30m from Real now. I know he's great when he's on it, but I am up for seeing Bradley do a more conventional job at fullback for the remainder of the campaign.

We need a leftback too. Yet again, we've failed to heed Paisley's philosophy and allowed Robertson legs to go on our own pitch. Last summer would have been a fine time to buy a younger model and give him a year of gradually settling in. Now we're playing catch up again.

He surely couldn't have had any worse? That was an all-timer.
 
I was highlighting the fact it wasn't just a defensive disaster, it was a calamity of a performance all around
Out of curiosity, could a Madrid player who put in such a lackadaisical display against Barca and cost his team a couple of goals, survive? Has it ever happened?