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Ekeke

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Points? 3 from 3 matches. Poor although we did play 1 of the strongest teams.

Play with the ball? 11 shots per match which is 16th in the league. 53% of the ball which is 7th in the league so theres a disconnect between having and keeping the ball and creating a shooting oppertunity.

Defensive record? 5 conceeded in 3 matches. Poor although once again, we played 1 of the strongest teams.

Theres an awful lot to improve on...

But

Theres one thing that we're apparently the best at in all the top leagues

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We average 24 tackles per game :eek: Its sadly not converted to having a good defensive record so far, but we do have a team of players winning the ball

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So Mazaraoui and Casemiro are making an abnormal amount of tackles, then Mainoo and Amad are also helping with plenty of tackles. Mazaroui isnt recorded as having been dribbled past a single time so far. Dalot has the same but with half the amount of successful tackles.

Mainoo is complimenting this with 3.7 interceptions per 90 mins which is 6th most of any player in the top leagues who have played over 90 mins, and therefore isnt multiplying their stats up to 90 mins. Weigl is the only midfielder with more interceptions per 90 with 4, but hes played 2 matches rather than 3.

Despite this we've got a weak defensive record

Obviously the 2 Casemiro and 1 Mainoo mistake against Liverpool in poor areas led to goals

Then before that we had the set piece marking issue with Casemiro and McTominay not sticking to their task allowing Brighton the winner. Earlier we had Maguire not dealing with the balls across the box allowing Welbeck to get the first goal. So for the most part our 5 goals conceeded in 3 comes down to individual errors and we've been too poor in attack to outscore it.

Anyway credit to our players for fighting for the ball especially the 4 players first mentioned and hopefully we can stop the individual errors that are leading directly to goals against us whilst also improving our attacking play to have more shots.
 
We always used to have players who had a decent tackle. Gary Pallister, Nicky Butt etc.
 
Ekeke said:
Points? 3 from 3 matches. Poor although we did play 1 of the strongest teams.

Play with the ball? 11 shots per match which is 16th in the league. 53% of the ball which is 7th in the league so theres a disconnect between having and keeping the ball and creating a shooting oppertunity.

Defensive record? 5 conceeded in 3 matches. Poor although once again, we played 1 of the strongest teams.

Theres an awful lot to improve on...

But

Theres one thing that we're apparently the best at in all the top leagues

55a907d96d1f1fee83c977e7b61315eb.png


We average 24 tackles per game :eek: Its sadly not converted to having a good defensive record so far, but we do have a team of players winning the ball

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So Mazaraoui and Casemiro are making an abnormal amount of tackles, then Mainoo and Amad are also helping with plenty of tackles. Mazaroui isnt recorded as having been dribbled past a single time so far. Dalot has the same but with half the amount of successful tackles.

Mainoo is complimenting this with 3.7 interceptions per 90 mins which is 6th most of any player in the top leagues who have played over 90 mins, and therefore isnt multiplying their stats up to 90 mins. Weigl is the only midfielder with more interceptions per 90 with 4, but hes played 2 matches rather than 3.

Despite this we've got a weak defensive record

Obviously the 2 Casemiro and 1 Mainoo mistake against Liverpool in poor areas led to goals

Then before that we had the set piece marking issue with Casemiro and McTominay not sticking to their task allowing Brighton the winner. Earlier we had Maguire not dealing with the balls across the box allowing Welbeck to get the first goal. So for the most part our 5 goals conceeded in 3 comes down to individual errors and we've been too poor in attack to outscore it.

Anyway credit to our players for fighting for the ball especially the 4 players first mentioned and hopefully we can stop the individual errors that are leading directly to goals against us whilst also improving our attacking play to have more shots.
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Adding Ugarte to this!

Its noticable when you watch the matches too, we are much more aggressive in trying to win the ball back, and the pressing is more cohesive than last season. Against Brighton we could not sustain it for 90 minutes though.
We were really poor with the ball against Liverpool and we really need to improve our final pass, and finishing
 
Look at the 19 other teams in that top 20 tacklers league. Is there a single quality team in there?

Surely the amount of tackles made is massively influenced by how many tackles we need to make? And we're in an unusual situation of having better players than most other teams who need to make a lot of tackles. Hence we're top of that table. As a metric for where we're at, it's as much negative as positive. If anything, more negative than positive.
 
Not the greatest stat to be topping, if we’re making so many tackles then it means the opposition have the ball more often than not. Just highlights how terrible we are at controlling games and retaining possession. Just look at the company we’re keeping in that table.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Look at the 19 other teams in that top 20 tacklers league. Is there a single quality team in there?

Surely the amount of tackles made is massively influenced by how many tackles we need to make? And we're in an unusual situation of having better players than most other teams who need to make a lot of tackles. Hence we're top of that table. As a metric for where we're at, it's as much negative as positive. If anything, more negative than positive.
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Yeah, should probably be compared with how much possession your team has. We (Everton) for example would be expected to be high because we set up in a manner that means we are chasing the game and opponents and trying to win the ball back in all areas of the pitch.
 
ShinjiNinja26 said:
Not the greatest stat to be topping, if we’re making so many tackles then it means the opposition have the ball more often than not. Just highlights how terrible we are at controlling games and retaining possession. Just look at the company we’re keeping in that table.
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It's a little more complicated than that, because only 6 PL teams have had higher average possession than us, yet 18 teams are making less tackles than us.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Look at the 19 other teams in that top 20 tacklers league. Is there a single quality team in there?

Surely the amount of tackles made is massively influenced by how many tackles we need to make? And we're in an unusual situation of having better players than most other teams who need to make a lot of tackles. Hence we're top of that table. As a metric for where we're at, it's as much negative as positive. If anything, more negative than positive.
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I wouldn't say it's a negative. Last season we had three main technical areas we needed to improve: getting the ball, having the ball, and using the ball. Or, to put it another way, "fecking everything."

So we're one-third of the way there in no time at all. Pop the champers!
 
Pogue Mahone said:
It's a little more complicated than that, because only 6 PL teams have had higher average possession than us, yet 18 teams are making less tackles than us.
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I think that’s down to the fact we pass it around the back a lot, so tend to have a lot of harmless possession that the opposition are happy to concede. Its when we try and progress it through the thirds that’s when it breaks down and we get constant turnovers in possession in the middle and opponents areas of the park.
 
Last year, the teams on top of this stat was Palace, Everton and Wolves. The team who made the fewest was Man City.

The season before it was Leeds, Chelsea and Southampton who «won it». Two of them went down. Chelsea was terrible. Man City and Arsenal the fewest.

I think if you look at it historically, it is really not a stat you wanna «win».
 
If we filter it by area of the pitch it's only tackles in the defensive third we're top, where you might expect it was up front.

The stats for this season so far mainly show what you'd expect, we mainly have high possession in the backline, get tackled a lot despite not progressing it very high, make a lot of recovery tackles in our own defence as a result. Nothing positive that's for sure.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
It's a little more complicated than that, because only 6 PL teams have had higher average possession than us, yet 18 teams are making less tackles than us.
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Really illustrates how pinball our style is. Wonder if there's any further possession breakdown to show the areas we hold it most and where we lose it most. I'm inclined to agree with @ShinjiNinja26 - we probably retain well in our own half and then our ambitious back to front passing through the middle causes turnover city with a lot of tackles to win it back aggressively.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Look at the 19 other teams in that top 20 tacklers league. Is there a single quality team in there?

Surely the amount of tackles made is massively influenced by how many tackles we need to make? And we're in an unusual situation of having better players than most other teams who need to make a lot of tackles. Hence we're top of that table. As a metric for where we're at, it's as much negative as positive. If anything, more negative than positive.
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This.

Most of our problems stem from atrocious ball retention and inability to keep possession of a football.
 
Smores said:
If we filter it by area of the pitch it's only tackles in the defensive third we're top, where you might expect it was up front.

The stats for this season so far mainly show what you'd expect, we mainly have high possession in the backline, get tackled a lot despite not progressing it very high, make a lot of recovery tackles in our own defence as a result. Nothing positive that's for sure.
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BuzzKillington said:
Haha, Hayley McQueen giving pallisters bulge the side eye while she was telling off the caller.
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Who was sniggering?! :lol:

That's the thing with live calls isn't it? You have no control or clue about the nutcases at the other end, and they don't even need to show their faces
 
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