It's because kayfabe is dead and due to social media everyone has to know everything now.
In the good old days if you needed surgery they'd write you off on tv by having someone attack you to set up the comeback further down the road.
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It's because kayfabe is dead and due to social media everyone has to know everything now.
In the good old days if you needed surgery they'd write you off on tv by having someone attack you to set up the comeback further down the road.
I know it's gotta hurt, and fair play to him for pushing through the pain, but the injury has really added to Cody's star power in WWE. Without it, at least to me, it was just yet another rerun of Cody vs Seth for the 3rd(?) PPV running, but the injury made it a compelling story (and a great match considering).
Plus he'll be away for a while, which will build anticipation for when he returns, assuming WWE don't drop the ball on his return he could reach megastar level.
Plus he'll be away for a while, which will build anticipation for when he returns, assuming WWE don't drop the ball on his return he could reach megastar level.
To be fair, he was main eventing a PPV after only 2 months in the company and without having the championship... Which is fairly rare I would think?
But yeah, it's definitely pushed him up a level now and then some ... When he comes out, probably at the Rumble, the reaction should be huge.
Thinking about it in the days sense, it's probably my match of the year so far... I loved it that much.
Surely logically this isn't true? If it were true why does he need to stop wrestling if he can wrestle anyway?
Because he obviously needs to get it sorted and he's probably in a lot of pain.
Same as a footballer who delays surgery on something so they can play on.
As I said, at short notice, it was deemed no further damage could be done. Long term, he wouldn't be able to carry on with it.
If it has been a week ago, he wouldn't have wrestled, but it was literally the day before the show and he was willing to pain killer up and get through it.
The injury gets more stiff a week or so after the incident. And continuing to wrestle without a pec there will lead to harming the other muscles compensating for it
The Rock and Triple H have also had this injury and its commonly thought that steroids are a factor when you have a muscle tear like that.
Oh yeah they were treating him well already, but he was still clearly a level below Roman (and Brock whenever he's around).
Now? Not so much. Play it right when he comes back and he's probably the top guy even with Roman there.
As for the match, I originally rolled my eyes that it was yet another match between those two, but the injury turned it into a match of the year contender.
I thought the opening segment of raw was quite good. The first part with seth seemed genuine in terms of giving Cody due credit for still wrestling and putting on a great match despite the injury. But then because it was Seth you knew he'd come straight back out and heel himself up again. Genuinely think part of what's made Cody look good is that Seth is one of the best around.
WWE in general is still just weird. The Seth/Cody stuff has been good all the way through. They are building Reigns/Riddle very well even if it is entirely predictable what will happen. Tgeres also the odd really good match. But then there's still so much random mess. Where are they going with the Ezekiel stuff? Unless another Alias randomly comes out at some point and it turns out IS his brother I just don't get it
I see Apollo Crews has been dumped back to NXT and suddenly he is talking Amarican again.
Kyle O Reilly? Seriously?
I know nobody was beating Moxley anyway but still, him?
I know nobody was beating Moxley anyway but still, him?
The whole thing was a waste of time anyway. Might as well have just announced Mox v Tanahashi for interim in the first place as we all know that's the match that's going to happen and likewise that Mox is winning.
Hangman calling out Okada was again slightly predictable but I can't wait to see it. Adam Cole can feck off though.
Nice to see Ospreay in AEW as well. Is it just me or does poor Trent seem to get used on a weekly basis to be the NJPW whipping boy?
Hangman calling out Okada was again slightly predictable but I can't wait to see it. Adam Cole can feck off though.
Nice to see Ospreay in AEW as well. Is it just me or does poor Trent seem to get used on a weekly basis to be the NJPW whipping boy?
If they pull the trigger on Cody winning The Rumble, he'll be the biggest babyface since Cena imo
Its funny seeing this as the main reaction online from WWE fans, after the years of WWE fans online complaining about Cody bleeding all over the place in his matches and going through a burning table like 5 months ago for AEW.
I think theres good and bad to it. I dont believe the match would have been better if Cody wasnt injured, so thats an accomplishment.
Yeah I didn't get it - why have a Battle Royale with all your midcarders and none of your top guys for your interim belt?
His momentum would need to carry on past the Rumble, without getting into "lolcodywins" territory like they had for years with Cena, but yeah they have a great opportunity with Cody here.
It seems like perfect timing too - over the last 7/8 years people were only built up to be fed to Brock or Roman, whereas now those guys seem to be winding down, leaving a gap as the main man.
I don't follow much online discourse, so I wasn't aware that people were complaining about that, but I always liked that he would put his body on the line, and this is simply a continuation of that. The man wants to be cheered, almost pathologically, but you've gotta respect his commitment.
I think the good far outweighs the bad for Cody - before the injury he was in a somewhat stale feud with Rollins that was dragging on, but the injury gave some meaning to the match, gets him out of that feud, and gives him time away to build anticipation for a return along with avoiding overexposure.
Na, there’s a difference between a hell in a cell main event to a title defence v Andrade on a random Dynamite.
Has Cody bled yet in WWE?
Damien Sandow is the spit of bearded Elias and is excellent at mimicking mannerisms
They knew it was dumb as well so they had to make both Wardlow and Hangman come out and reference it in their promo's.
This was the one time where they probably ever needed to use their ranking system and they didn't even go to it. I honestly think Mox just beating Hangman would've worked better. Be a great match to.
"You want Okada? You can have him. Because you're never getting this you dumb cowboy bitch!"
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NJPW Spoilers, Jay White seems to have something to say
Jay White just exudes star. So why have both his Impact and AEW invasions been such a let down? The booking of this forbidden door stuff is just lame.
AEW was because it was a last minute addition after Tony K realized he oversold his announcement being to do with a forbidden door. So it was just to get a star on that would be from the company whos wrestler (NJPW / Tanahashi) coined the term. So yeah no surprise it wasnt much so far.
Now we have CM Punk going down with injury so Forbidden Door needs a shakeup. Presumably Tanahashi Vs Mox is being saved for NJPW where it was originally going to be.
Impact I didnt watch his run there
I would go as far as saying that the WWE/WCW/ECW Invasion angle was far better than this. There isn't a great deal of jeopardy besides some guys attacking FTR and Trent. There's no story. Forbidden Door is AEW at its worst; playing solely to the gallery of the work rate smarks with 'dream matches' the only thing used to sell the PPV as opposed to proper angles. There's so many missed opportunities and they're sleepwalking into something that should've been a lot more significant. They could've had Punk's injury come about by an NJPW attack - therefore NJPW cost AEW its World Champion. Tony Khan could've announced on Dynamite he was trying to make the deal happen and NJPW's people seem to get annoyed that Khan acted like a little excited kid by going public and trying to force their hand. Then, in a contract signing press conference (on both AEW and NJPW TV), NJPW turn the tables by negotiating some serious clauses that advantage them and maybe even Jay White kicks the shit out of Tony Khan.
There could have been lots of things done to introduce this whole Forbidden Door thing with some sort of actual heat that makes casual fans say 'holy shit, this is a big deal'. Instead it's all playing to the r/squaredcircle people, yet again, and relying on selling it to their core audience (who, let's be honest, would pay PPV prices to watch a farting contest between Okada and Page so don't really need selling to) rather than casuals.
Yeah im dissappointed in the buildup storywise, seems like there hasnt been much effort since Punk's injury. The buildup is essentially from all the waiting the past couple of years, but now there arent any dream matches taking place. I think Jay Vs. Hangman will still be as good as any match that week but its not like its Omega Vs. Okada 4 or Ospreay or something like that. I hope it paves the way for something like that. But we arent getting that right now so it doesnt seem that special
The funniest one for me is the tag stuff. AEW has the top tag matches every month or at the pay per views. When they work with another company they actually have a match with a worse team, in this case Cobb and O'Khan. Cobb is great talent of course. But that team isnt like what you could have from AEW.
Karl Anderson is like a bad smell. He won't go away. Can't stand the guy.
Yep for sure. I think, also, there needs to be some work establishing some of these NJPW guys on AEW TV. It's hard because a lot of their loyal fanbase already know who these guys are, but a lot of people don't so it just feels a bit 'oh look, here's that guy - of course you already know and care about him'. It's a trap AEW falls into too often. I actually think they have shown they can do character work really well when they put their mind to it but they do it only with certain guys and usually not early on, which is the logical time to really focus on establishing character. MJF was right that Khan is too much of a fan and it clouds him in booking a lot.
I've no doubt the matches will be insanely good if, as you say, they aren't the absolute obvious dream matches many have wanted for years. Danielson/Sabre Jr has huge potential if Danielson's gonna be well enough. Moxley/Tanahashi and Page/White(/Cole/Okada or whatever combination) could be superb too. I just hope they make them mean more on TV rather than just 'omg 5 star match' or 'gang attack wtf'.
It feels like this has been kinda rushed out and there's too many other competing interests, i.e. Blood & Guts 3 days later. TV should be pretty much exclusively Forbidden Door focused IMHO rather than the whole thing feeling like a sideshow. It's a missed opportunity because they're relying on the matches selling themselves rather than putting the effort into good stories maximising them.
Shock horror Jeff Hardy gets arrested.
High as a kite. There's a reason he's not in the WWE anymore. Hope Khan grows a pair and fires him.
High as a kite. There's a reason he's not in the WWE anymore. Hope Khan grows a pair and fires him.
Can't fire him, the PR would be awful.
All they can do is suspend him & put him in rehab, which is what WWE tried to do, but he refused & quit.
I doubt it.
At this point everyone knows Jeff is a feckhead who has brought this on himself.
Would be justified. He's had so many chances.
I dont drink and I dont drive so I have little sympathy when Hardy and the Usos have been caught with serial DUIs.
Hope that the punishment is strong enough that it sends the message that a star doing that really misses out and sets them back
Hope that the punishment is strong enough that it sends the message that a star doing that really misses out and sets them back
Three times over the limit or something
Mad
This shouldnt be rewarded and really really should be punished severely
Mad
This shouldnt be rewarded and really really should be punished severely
If you watch DON he was out of it from the start. No way was that a “Concussion”
Well yeah he turned them down.
Quit?
Disclaimer: I'm not some massive Jeff Hardy Stan, I just hate the narrative around him and the rewriting of history
He turned them down because they wanted him to go to rehab. It’s clear as day he’s a mess.
He was completely out of it the other week as well in that ladder match.
The Hardy's are a busted flush. Rehab and then the sack for Jeff should be the way. Not either/or. He's had enough chances now. Matt can barely move any more as well so I don't see the point of them outside of a nostalgia act.
And I semi agree about Forbidden Door but on the other hand there's nothing wrong with booking a show that appeals to a different base. Sadly I don't think there will be enough 'dream matches' on the card but again this could be the start of many more and some that do get proper angles. It certainly seems like they're building something with Bullet Club and The Elite. I kind of half expect Kenny to show up and save Hangman but have no idea what his injury situation is.
And I semi agree about Forbidden Door but on the other hand there's nothing wrong with booking a show that appeals to a different base. Sadly I don't think there will be enough 'dream matches' on the card but again this could be the start of many more and some that do get proper angles. It certainly seems like they're building something with Bullet Club and The Elite. I kind of half expect Kenny to show up and save Hangman but have no idea what his injury situation is.
Warner media have told AEW to immediately stop all advertising of Jeff Hardy.
Maybe now, Khan will get tough finally.
Maybe now, Khan will get tough finally.
Why do these people never go to prison?