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I do think they went down the one road that kills the unpredictable nature of it all. Why make it clear it’s (now) a work? It’s not as if this is Punk in WWE that could get a large portion of fans sick of the product behind him, the AEW fans love AEW.
It’s a tricky one. I don’t know what I would have done to be fair. Maybe going more subtle but then the heat could disappear.
 
MJF had an interesting night.

Check out his uncensored promo that's up on the net.
 
Bwuk said:
Great promo.

Pretty much everything he says is facts. It'll be hilarious if this leads to Khan becoming a on screen presence.
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Oh dear god no.

Kahn just doesn't have the voice, nor presence needed or required to be a sort of AEW Vince on screen.
 
MUW4Eva said:
Oh dear god no.

Kahn just doesn't have the voice, nor presence needed or required to be a sort of AEW Vince on screen.
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Yeah if they ever want to go down an authority route, need an on-screen owner. Khan is a meme.
 
MUW4Eva said:
Oh dear god no.

Kahn just doesn't have the voice, nor presence needed or required to be a sort of AEW Vince on screen.
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He's hilariously cringe. He's a total mark for it though I can 100% see him putting himself on screen.
 
Bwuk said:
He's hilariously cringe. He's a total mark for it though I can 100% see him putting himself on screen.
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The times that he has already appeared on camera doing a promo, were unbelievably bad.

He thinks and tries to act like Vince, but he really isn't even a 10th of what Vince is on camera, or was at his peak, got to remember how old he is now.
 
So it's all a work then.

Great promo (delivery wise) from MJF... But I dunno, it's all bit too "inside" for my tastes. Maybe that's just me though.
 
Annihilate Now! said:
So it's all a work then.

Great promo (delivery wise) from MJF... But I dunno, it's all bit too "inside" for my tastes. Maybe that's just me though.
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It reminded me of two other promos, one by Ric Flair, "Fire me, I don't care!" on Nitro, and a few by Russo where he used a fair few "insider" terms, and as such doing so, this promo went too far in that direction.....bro..
 
Annihilate Now! said:
So it's all a work then.

Great promo (delivery wise) from MJF... But I dunno, it's all bit too "inside" for my tastes. Maybe that's just me though.
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It isn't all a work.

The issues are real and they are now trying to turn it into a positive by making it a work to the public.

The fact the issues were well known and already public, just gave it a way to make it into a storyline, so it doesn't become to damaging, like the Sasha situation has.
 
Annihilate Now! said:
So it's all a work then.

Great promo (delivery wise) from MJF... But I dunno, it's all bit too "inside" for my tastes. Maybe that's just me though.
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Off course its a work how anyone believes anything that happens in wrestling today is real and not scripted is beyond me. They shouldn't be allowed to watch tv in my opinion
 
choccy77 said:
It isn't all a work.

The issues are real and they are now trying to turn it into a positive by making it a work to the public.

The fact the issues were well known and already public, just gave it a way to make it into a storyline, so it doesn't become to damaging, like the Sasha situation has.
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Real animosity has a been a driving point for stories since, well, forever. This is ALL a work, in this day and age, you ain't getting the greenlight to go out there if there's any chance you go off script ludicrously, it's better to walk out given how ultra water tight the contracts will be - Austin and Punk both did this.
 
Zen said:
Real animosity has a been a driving point for stories since, well, forever. This is ALL a work, in this day and age, you ain't getting the greenlight to go out there if there's any chance you go off script ludicrously, it's better to walk out given how ultra water tight the contracts will be - Austin and Punk both did this.
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I honestly dont think this is true? Real animosity has hurt angles more than they have driven them.
The numbers have been released for this week (960k odd) and that has to be disappointing. The only people who seem to care about backstage nonsense are the people already watching.
I thought they would break 1m but the number seems to be settling a bit less every few months.
 
Shane88 said:
The Acclaimed are the best thing in wrestling right now.

"SCISSOR ME, DADDY AAASSS!"
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Austin Gunn is actually a very good rapper. I think they could do something using that, with him and Caster.
 
Shane88 said:
The Acclaimed are the best thing in wrestling right now.

"SCISSOR ME, DADDY AAASSS!"
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Nahh, they are not even as good wannabe rappers as John Cena, I don't see the point of their so called "edgy" stuff.

Trying your be edgy for the sake of thing's, just comes across as pathetic really.
 
cyberman said:
I do think they went down the one road that kills the unpredictable nature of it all. Why make it clear it’s (now) a work? It’s not as if this is Punk in WWE that could get a large portion of fans sick of the product behind him, the AEW fans love AEW.
It’s a tricky one. I don’t know what I would have done to be fair. Maybe going more subtle but then the heat could disappear.
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It was always a work.

MJF will be the one to take the belt off Punk in 6-12 months.
 
The page before this one on this thread is conclusive proof that people on the Internet will pointlessly argue about absolutely anything.
 
CM Punk to vacate AEW Title tonight rumours?

Let's see what happens with his announcement
 
Punk broke his ankle in the crowd dive, interim title now. Although it’s a battle royal to face the number 4 ranked Mox in a match (who somehow gets a bye?) can someone explain that to me?
Also they fecked up the announcement. Jericho in commentary got it completely wrong and the whole thing was a mess
 
cyberman said:
Punk broke his ankle in the crowd dive, interim title now. Although it’s a battle royal to face the number 4 ranked Mox in a match (who somehow gets a bye?) can someone explain that to me?
Also they fecked up the announcement. Jericho in commentary got it completely wrong and the whole thing was a mess
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Why have an interim title??

Thar makes mo sense, just give the new person the actual title, and then when Punk comes back, have him face whomever the Champ is at the time.

Why over complicate things, by adding needless titles that make zero sense.
 
MUW4Eva said:
Why have an interim title??

Thar makes mo sense, just give the new person the actual title, and then when Punk comes back, have him face whomever the Champ is at the time.

Why over complicate things, by adding needless titles that make zero sense.
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Realism. When a marquee champ cant fight in UFC they have an interim fight and then the winner goes belt vs belt. It doesnt cheapen the accomplishment of a title reign too, because the interim only means you challenge it doesnt mean you're champ of the big one.
 
Ekeke said:
Realism. When a marquee champ cant fight in UFC they have an interim fight and then the winner goes belt vs belt. It doesnt cheapen the accomplishment of a title reign too, because the interim only means you challenge it doesnt mean you're champ of the big one.
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Sooo.....the UFC is the be all and end all now??

Nahh...

If a Champion is injured and can't compete, strip him, have a tournament, of something, like at Wrestlemania 4, crown a new Champion, hey presto, all sorted out.

Then when or if Punk comes back, he can challenge the new guy for the title.

What happens if Punk is out for months, are we really just going to have someone just pretend that they are the Champion, as interim means nothing, it is a pointless thing.

Just sort out who the Champion is, and move on.
 
Ekeke said:
Realism. When a marquee champ cant fight in UFC they have an interim fight and then the winner goes belt vs belt. It doesnt cheapen the accomplishment of a title reign too, because the interim only means you challenge it doesnt mean you're champ of the big one.
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Not all of the time though. There’s plenty of instances when champions had to relinquish the belt without an interim title. In fact there’s only around 20 interim titles in UFC history and a lot of them are bullshit situations.
Interim titles are hated in UFC by the way. It’s abused by Dana who pulls out interim titles when he can’t get a champion to defend on a PPV and he needs a marque match up. For Tony to voluntarily bring this in and have fans defend it by using UFC as an example doesn’t make sense. This explains it better than I can
https://www.mmamania.com/platform/a...interim-titles-stupid-everyone-hates-them-mma
 
MUW4Eva said:
Sooo.....the UFC is the be all and end all now??

Nahh...

If a Champion is injured and can't compete, strip him, have a tournament, of something, like at Wrestlemania 4, crown a new Champion, hey presto, all sorted out.

Then when or if Punk comes back, he can challenge the new guy for the title.

What happens if Punk is out for months, are we really just going to have someone just pretend that they are the Champion, as interim means nothing, it is a pointless thing.

Just sort out who the Champion is, and move on.
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Its the most popular and well known combat sport worldwide yeah. And bigger than WWE, so yes of course AEW wants to model itself after that when it can to add that element of realism.

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today 5-y&q=UFC,/m/0gy1_,/m/01cgz

If hes out too long they'll have to strip him but they obviously dont want someone holding the belt for a month and then Punk winning it back. They've liked to have long title reigns
 
Ekeke said:
Its the most popular and well known combat sport worldwide yeah. And bigger than WWE, so yes of course AEW wants to model itself after that when it can to add that element of realism.

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today 5-y&q=UFC,/m/0gy1_,/m/01cgz

If hes out too long they'll have to strip him but they obviously dont want someone holding the belt for a month and then Punk winning it back. They've liked to have long title reigns
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Modeling itself after the UFC, where such interim belts are very unpopular, is definitely one way to go sure......

But just taking the title off of Punk, and having an actual proper champion, rather than someone holding a totally meaningless title, is a far better route to go down.

This just adds a whole layer of complexity, when there simply doesn't need to be any.

Have a tournament, the winner becomes the champion, simple.

Then if or when Punk comes back, he faces the actual champion.

It really isn't that hard.

They are needlessly making it over complicated.
 
MUW4Eva said:
Modeling itself after the UFC, where such interim belts are very unpopular, is definitely one way to go sure......

But just taking the title off of Punk, and having an actual proper champion, rather than someone holding a totally meaningless title, is a far better route to go down.

This just adds a whole layer of complexity, when there simply doesn't need to be any.

Have a tournament, the winner becomes the champion, simple.

Then if or when Punk comes back, he faces the actual champion.

It really isn't that hard.

They are needlessly making it over complicated.
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They dont want 1 month champs. They've had long reigning champs and this can continue that. Winner will simply get a shot. Very straight forward
 
Ekeke said:
They dont want 1 month champs. They've had long reigning champs and this can continue that. Winner will simply get a shot. Very straight forward
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It really is anything but straightforward.

If it were straightforward, then there would be a new actual Champion, and everyone can get on with things.

Doing it the way that has been announced just really over complicates things, when there isn't any need to do so.

It doesn't matter if they don't want 1 month, or less Champs, having a fake Champion instead is far worse.
 
Seems like I picked a good week to start my holiday and get behind on AEW. What a week! I don’t know where this MJF programme is going, but I’m being worked alright.

What a rollercoaster for CM Punk too. Not a big fan of the title switch up. They could have come up with something more credible, either fully earned through direct qualifiers or matches to manipulate the rankings, and also not bothered with interim nonsense.
 
Obviously I’m unaware of how long he will actually be out for, but I’m surprised they didn’t just keep it on Punk and have him appear and cut promos on people.

Run a number one contenders tournament and have it culminate at whatever the October/September time PPV is. He could of done commentary on matches etc.
 
Are people really struggling to understand how interim titles work? They've been around in boxing and mma for ages, and it's really simple - you're the champion in the interim until the lineal champion is back (or is forced to vacate), at which point there's a fight to determine the real champion.
 
The Hilton said:
Are people really struggling to understand how interim titles work? They've been around in boxing and mma for ages, and it's really simple - you're the champion in the interim until the lineal champion is back (or is forced to vacate), at which point there's a fight to determine the real champion.
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No?
 
The Hilton said:
Are people really struggling to understand how interim titles work? They've been around in boxing and mma for ages, and it's really simple - you're the champion in the interim until the lineal champion is back (or is forced to vacate), at which point there's a fight to determine the real champion.
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We know how they work, they are just pointless, irrelevant and shouldn't happen.

Just strip the Champion, have a tournament or a match to determine who wins it in his or her absence, then when the injured person returns, have them face whomever is the champion at the time, far simpler, then all of this two continents battle royal malarkey.
 
MUW4Eva said:
We know how they work, they are just pointless, irrelevant and shouldn't happen.

Just strip the Champion, have a tournament or a match to determine who wins it in his or her absence, then when the injured person returns, have them face whomever is the champion at the time, far simpler, then all of this two continents battle royal malarkey.
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I suppose you could have a heel interim, then CM as the face returning to take out the heel - only for the heel to smash punk when he gets back.
 
Traub said:
I suppose you could have a heel interim, then CM as the face returning to take out the heel - only for the heel to smash punk when he gets back.
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This sort of thing has happened before with Cena and Punk, with the two titles, if needs be, just redo/emulate/copy/rip off that situation.

But this, what is going on here, is a whole load of unnecessary, nonsensical malarkey.
 
I'd love for punk to come back heel.

Come back after whoever the interim champion is has had a match, they're bloodied and beat up. In no shape. Punk comes out and says he wants the match there and then, like money in the bank.

GTS, one and done. Book it Tony.
 
Could have done a Shawn Michael's v Razor style storyline, where Punk is stripped of title, comes back with belt & have title vs title match etc

Would have been better than interim route.
 
I think given who their champion is, AEW should avoid direct UFC comparisons..

Interim belts are a bad idea IMO. Loads on here have already provided better ideas. All the interim belt does is protect Punk and waste everyone else’s time. It mad add ‘realism’ but who the feck is watching wrestling and looking for realism ?
 
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