This whole Windows Vista RAM limit thing

lynchie

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Right, I don't understand. So, you've got Windows Vista (the normal version) and you buy 4GB of ram, and it gets a bit confused and reckons you've only got 3GB? So you've got a whole GB of capacity sat there not being used?

And to use it, you have to get 64bit Vista, which is what? Does normal software work on it? Has it got special features? What's the point?

There's two reasons I ask, 1 - RAM's cheap as chips, and I was thinking of upgrading to 4GB, and 2 - I've been asked to look for a laptop for someone, and on the Dell website I could select 4GB of RAM, and they didn't say anything about it being completely fecking useless, and when asked about it just said they don't sell 64bit Vista.

Come on computer nerds, explain what the fecks going on.
 
how the feck is this entertainment?
 
I figured this was the best place for computer geeks, due to the amount of stuff I don't understand about the innards of a PS3. Feel free to ignore it if it offends your sensibilities.
 
Well i've just ordered a dell laptop with 3gb of RAM, so i'm hoping this doesn't feck mine up too and I actually use 2gb! Doesn't vista take 1gb to run anyway!?
 
right now ive got 4gb but i can increase it to 8gb

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and 64bit vista > 32bit vista

and you can only run 64bit if your motherboard and cpu support it....other than that all normal software run on 64bit.
 
lynchie said:
Right, I don't understand. So, you've got Windows Vista (the normal version) and you buy 4GB of ram, and it gets a bit confused and reckons you've only got 3GB? So you've got a whole GB of capacity sat there not being used?

And to use it, you have to get 64bit Vista, which is what? Does normal software work on it? Has it got special features? What's the point?

There's two reasons I ask, 1 - RAM's cheap as chips, and I was thinking of upgrading to 4GB, and 2 - I've been asked to look for a laptop for someone, and on the Dell website I could select 4GB of RAM, and they didn't say anything about it being completely fecking useless, and when asked about it just said they don't sell 64bit Vista.

Come on computer nerds, explain what the fecks going on.
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Wrong forum anyway.

If you have a 4GB RAM you can extend it to 7GB or even reduce it by configuring them from your control panel

4GB in 32 bit OS isnt an issue
 
vijay said:
4GB in 32 bit OS isnt an issue
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It shouldn't be, and the 32 bit shit is bollocks, as it seems to be able to address more than 4GB of HDD.

Would you like to explain that to me with your wisdom? I don't even think that you know what a 32 bit operating system is, or what it even means. You could start by googling "long word".
 
WeasteDevil said:
It shouldn't be, and the 32 bit shit is bollocks, as it seems to be able to address more than 4GB of HDD.

Would you like to explain that to me with your wisdom? I don't even think that you know what a 32 bit operating system is, or what it even means. You could start by googling "long word".
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Starting my career from 85/86 processors and living through 3.1, 95, to Solaris, Vista, and Linux I've fiddled around different processors and OS, good enough to give a lecture. Overall I am much wiser than you presume but can't be arsed now.
 
VidaRed said:
and 64bit vista > 32bit vista

and you can only run 64bit if your motherboard and cpu support it....other than that all normal software run on 64bit.
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32 bit windows applications are still corporate standards. Even in a 64 bit OS we can make them run by configuring them, as the 32 bit apps cannot load 64 bit dynamic link libs and vice versa...The issue is many such applications are consuming more RAM's.

Its like a mad house the growth has become horizontal to fodder chip makers rather making them progressive. By the end of the day with the services sector calling shots over producteering I cannot figure out how much it offers to a common man.
 
It's fecking balls then. Means I can't upgrade this laptop to be useful for more than a couple more years probably. Could someone point out to the software developers that it would be a good idea to move the industry standard to 64 bit if everyone's going to be whacking into this concrete ceiling in the near future?
 
vijay said:
Starting my career from 85/86 processors and living through 3.1, 95, to Solaris, Vista, and Linux I've fiddled around different processors and OS, good enough to give a lecture. Overall I am much wiser than you presume but can't be arsed now.
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Well, it's not exactly rocket science is it when you get down to the hardware level? A processor has an address bus that is x wide and it also has address registers that are x bits in width. If I declare a pointer in a language then yes, I have an addressable range, and I could ++ it from 0x0 to whatever. I quite understand that. The way that Windows maps its memory however is fecked to put it quite bluntly!
 
I've been trying to convince my wife that we should get a Mac ... go figure it was the Mac vs. PC commercials that finally sold her.
 
USDevil said:
I've been trying to convince my wife that we should get a Mac ... go figure it was the Mac vs. PC commercials that finally sold her.
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you're exactly the type of people apple is targeting :lol:
 
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