I think Barthez should have at least challanged kewell, instead of allowing him a free header.
their goal, who's fault ?
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I think it was Ole's fault.
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i blame pete waterman! not for the goal, but for jason donovan....
i blame pete waterman! not for the goal, but for jason donovan....
agree, Chadwick.
Why is it someone should be named as a scapegoat after each loss??? <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" />
- Back your team FFS!
- Whatabout all the wasted chances?? - Who's fault were those?? - I mean... if we had scored on them, we would've won! <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />
- Back your team FFS!
- Whatabout all the wasted chances?? - Who's fault were those?? - I mean... if we had scored on them, we would've won! <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />
It was a good goal - simple as that. I've said it elsewhere so I won't labour the point, we don't look capable of creating enough scoring opportunities - and taking them. 
<img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" /> no...no....
It's not Barthez, it's not Chadwick, it's not any Man Utd players' fault. It's the Leeds manager(the shepherd)'s fault. Who told him to let Harry Kewell to play....
It's not Barthez, it's not Chadwick, it's not any Man Utd players' fault. It's the Leeds manager(the shepherd)'s fault. Who told him to let Harry Kewell to play....
You can lay the blame at a few people feet.
Chadwick let Harte cross it too easily
Mickey let Kewell get free
Fabien should have come to meet the cross.
But the fact of the matter is that Leeds won the game because they took their chance and we wasted ours. The game is about taking chances not having 70% possession. What good is having the ball if you do nothing with it.
Chadwick let Harte cross it too easily
Mickey let Kewell get free
Fabien should have come to meet the cross.
But the fact of the matter is that Leeds won the game because they took their chance and we wasted ours. The game is about taking chances not having 70% possession. What good is having the ball if you do nothing with it.
you are all missing the point.
The defence is not the problem. We are not quite creating as many chances up front, and those we do create are being wasted. We lack teeth not resolve.
The defence is not the problem. We are not quite creating as many chances up front, and those we do create are being wasted. We lack teeth not resolve.
Surely it was Verons fault?!?!?!?!?!?
Originally posted by roxyfella:
<strong>Surely it was Verons fault?!?!?!?!?!?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yeah where was he
The goal was no1s fault.
Just a brilliant ball from Harte.
Something which is more synonomous with Becks.
Perhaps you could say the marking should have been tighter, but you cant stop balls like that.
Just a brilliant ball from Harte.
Something which is more synonomous with Becks.
Perhaps you could say the marking should have been tighter, but you cant stop balls like that.
The goal was a soft one to concede. Yes, a good cross but Kewell was allowed a completely free header. It was disappointing because up to that point Leeds didn't look like scoring and our defence had played well. Yes we should have taken our chances but overall we didn't deserve to lose the match and should have had it virtually rapped up by half time. When things aren't going for you .... !!
harte's cross wasn't that good - it was a fairly routine cross knocked in with his weaker foot. the marking on kewell was non-existent, so i don't really see how any of you can blame barthez for it. . .
Originally posted by michael owen's mum:
<strong>harte's cross wasn't that good - it was a fairly routine cross knocked in with his weaker foot. the marking on kewell was non-existent, so i don't really see how any of you can blame barthez for it. . .</strong><hr></blockquote>
Hartes cross not that good??!!
Pinpoint ball in to the box right onto Kewells head...what more could the lad have done?
I blame Rio for the goal by the way.
Actually, it was analysed by John Giles and he reckoned it was......
Ferdinands fault (and Mickey's, of course!).
When Harte got the ball, Ferdinand just stood there and didn't pick anybody up. Blanc had to step forward to take Ferdie's man, leaving 2 players - Mickey should have come across to take Kewell but he stayed at the far post (he shouldnt have had to mark 2 people anyway - hence Ferdie's fault).
Anyway, if they defended as a "marking" back 4, there wouldn't have been a goal.
Ferdinands fault (and Mickey's, of course!).
When Harte got the ball, Ferdinand just stood there and didn't pick anybody up. Blanc had to step forward to take Ferdie's man, leaving 2 players - Mickey should have come across to take Kewell but he stayed at the far post (he shouldnt have had to mark 2 people anyway - hence Ferdie's fault).
Anyway, if they defended as a "marking" back 4, there wouldn't have been a goal.
Originally posted by jamesblonde:
<strong>Actually, it was analysed by John Giles and he reckoned it was......
Ferdinands fault (and Mickey's, of course!).
When Harte got the ball, Ferdinand just stood there and didn't pick anybody up. Blanc had to step forward to take Ferdie's man, leaving 2 players - Mickey should have come across to take Kewell but he stayed at the far post (he shouldnt have had to mark 2 people anyway - hence Ferdie's fault).
Anyway, if they defended as a "marking" back 4, there wouldn't have been a goal.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Great man that Johnny Giles...I wonder where Leeds picked him up from?
I agree about Rio...he does get himself pulled out of position sometimes - usually he has the pace to make good his error but not always.
BTW Silvestre on MUTV owned up to the mistake, and took the blame.
<a href="http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/sporttop/page.cfm?objectid=12202468&method=full&siteid=50143" target="_blank">The Mirror</a> agree that Silvestre was 'the only man at fault. Harry Kewell was his man as Ian Harte's cross came over and Silvestre was guilty of the amateurish mistake of ball-watching, allowing Kewell to rise unchallenged and head the ball past Barthez.'
Same old Silvestre.
Same old Silvestre.
Originally posted by mancred:
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Silvestre had a man at the back post to mark. Ferdinand was about three yards in front of the near post, marking diddley jack shit, so Larry had to come across.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yeah that man was Kewell, and Silvestre was standing behind him.
In case you are refering to the other one behind Silvestre, that guy was nearer to the linesman than to the goalpost.
Silvestre again although there was a mighty big gap in our middle where our CB's should be.
although there was a mighty big gap in our middle where our CB's should be.Barthez because he is total crap and should be shipped off ASAP, maybe Chadwicks although i lean towards Barthez
Originally posted by phunky:
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Yeah that man was Kewell, and Silvestre was standing behind him.
In case you are refering to the other one behind Silvestre, that guy was nearer to the linesman than to the goalpost.
doesn't matter where he was -- he was still Silvestre's man to mark. He is the left back. not the centre back. if he is to come across to mark a man in the middle every time ferdinand goes walkabout, then there will always be a man ready to attack the back post.
question is, who was ferdinand marking? what was he doing standing west of the six yard box? answers: no-one and nothing.
with harte on the left, they will be wanting him to cross with his right foot, so chadwick was probably doing what he was told. the assumption being that we'll have two centrebacks in the centre, marking, not one centre back marking in the centre, and one centre back twiddling his thumbs in no-man's land.
it doesn't really matter who's fault it was.
we'll be back when scoring 3 make such questions irrelevant
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we'll be back when scoring 3 make such questions irrelevant
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