This is a much more diplomatic version of what I wanted to say about OP.
The worst fans in the world
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran discuss a horrific month of December and a depressing FOUR defeats in a row - the latest coming against Wolves and Newcastle.
They discuss how much blame is on Ruben Amorim and rank our squad against other Premier League teams.
Do we have any chance of avoiding defeat at Anfield?
Maybe you should be a bit more like this guy.
@FriedClams is getting battered in here.
I agree but these are the types of tourist fans that have been jeered on for years on here by top reds ironically enough.
Shame the lad had to witness that debacle for his first match but good attitude/outlook.
Fried Clams gets battered everywhere he gooooooes
Is it so much to ask that @sizzling sausages gets fried too?
About time the match going fans did something other than applaud such performances.
Love his tailor made suit.
Yea the detailing is beautiful
I do wonder how he got his mum along if this was his first match. On the back of the bike?
All fans are impatient and want instant gratification. Has nothing to do with United. It’s the effect of social media and endless coverage and stream of memes after every loss. Makes it all seem more important and urgent than it actually is
I’m not suggesting he’s getting sacked now, quite the opposite.
Our league form however is horrifying, 8 games, 2 wins, 5 losses.
If this form continues through January, and most expect the next two games to be bad, then everyone will start worrying come February.
The last thing in the World I’d want for this football now is to sack him, I want him to find solutions and get through the season, but make no mistake, if we are in serious relegation trouble in February and he’s still sticking with his ”my way or the highway” idea, his job will be in trouble. No manager will be worth risking the drop.
If he keeps playing 5 defenders and our form continues to that stage, it will be solely his fault if he loses his job, and he knows that.
Most likely he’ll find solutions such as Antony at wing back and results will pick up in January, fingers crossed.
You’re confusing a small minority of fans (mainly online ones… a few at the game maybe) with our “fan group”. That’s lazy and the type of clickbait stuff you see on Twitter.
It’s also amazingly unfair. The VAST majority of fans support us through thick and thin and it’s been tough. Occasionally moan yeah but so does every fan base.
Those who moan, moan loudest… that doesn’t make them an entire fan base.
On the contrary, I think we've reached a new low post-SAF, with performances and ownership having crossed a tipping point for the majority of fans (including regular match-going ones).
Worst. Fan. Ever.
Form is irrelevant here. The next two games will not dictate what happens with his employment, results in those games are irrelevant to that end.
If you want him to find solutions that will force him to obviously go back on the principals for which he was hired, then you're not going to see it
If you want him to find solutions that make his system work better, then as a fan you need to give him time and stop panicking unduly about relegation in December - as I say to my 7 year old: "You're being very, very silly now and worrying about something that probably won't happen"
The match going Man United fans are among the best and most patient around. Social media "supporters" and many whom are too influenced by "fan channels" on youtube is a different story and live off toxicity and are loving the current situation to piss and moan about it.
Nah don’t agree with this. Of course the negativity will breed more ‘neutral viewers’, it will breed more rants but this idea that these fan channels want their own team to fail for views is complete and utter nonsense.
These channels Aftv/United stand etc are too established now.
You only have to watch their reactions during games to see the genuine emotions.
What you’re saying is the equivalent of saying all the guys running RedCafe want united to fail. I’d imagine redcafe traffic is a lot higher when United are failing. Doesn’t mean people want that.
Would hope that mum flew for her own sake
Much more of what we've been served the past decade and no-one will ever bother going to these lengths for a Man Utd match again.
Instant gratification? I think this is frustration boiling over after over a decade of mediocrity. There’s nothing instant about it.
Calling for Amorim’s sacking at this point is idiotic. He just got here and is instituting a new formation with a group of average players some of whom have struggled for years.
Booing is completely acceptable after torrid results in my opinion. Laughably, some on here have referred to it as bullying. It is not. It is showing dissatisfaction with putrid performances. And, frankly if some of our players can’t handle a little crowd booing directed towards them without breaking down in tears then they clearly don’t have the mental fortitude to handle adversity on the pitch when things are going wrong. A successful player will be angry about the booing but he’ll take it on board and use it as motivation to improve.
Booing is completely acceptable after torrid results in my opinion. Laughably, some on here have referred to it as bullying. It is not. It is showing dissatisfaction with putrid performances. And, frankly if some of our players can’t handle a little crowd booing directed towards them without breaking down in tears then they clearly don’t have the mental fortitude to handle adversity on the pitch when things are going wrong. A successful player will be angry about the booing but he’ll take it on board and use it as motivation to improve.
This is correct and I think on reflection @FriedClams probably knows this now they have settled down.
I bet Sir Jim charged him to park his bike outside OT too, tight arse.
INEOS within a year and Amorim within two months is instant. They can’t be on a short leash because of Woodward and Moyes and ETH and a decade of bad decisions
I'll give my unwanted but honest opinion on your treatment of United's Managers post-Ferguson.
Match going fans are largely extremely loyal to the incumbent. The Moyes/plane/ovation day was an example of that together with constant, loud singing the name of such as LVG. I believe the same happened last night when you were struggling and many other fanbases would have been baying for blood.
On the negative side I've met many who as soon as the Manager is gone then any appreciation of them also goes immediately. Nobody I know has a good word to say about your ex's except Ole and maybe a few now realise the realism that Rangnick brought to the size of the task during his short tenure.
Forum fans are a different matter (not just United's forumites by the way). They're not mostly as invested in the club as the match goers and are often looking for success to be delivered now if not sooner. If this doesn't happen it's very easy to be impatient or downright disrespectful of whoever is trying to help United get back to the top. Many spend too long on PC games and FF sites to understand that stability and patience are required if the club are ever to get it right.
Of course the club have to have made sound appointments in the first place but can all of the people who have entered and exited over the last 11 plus years have been so bad that they've been ditched after a couple of seasons at most?
I do think that Amorim is a talented young Coach and to give him time and power to implement his own ideas will pay off eventually.
What is the alternative? I think you know the answer to that.
Match going fans are largely extremely loyal to the incumbent. The Moyes/plane/ovation day was an example of that together with constant, loud singing the name of such as LVG. I believe the same happened last night when you were struggling and many other fanbases would have been baying for blood.
On the negative side I've met many who as soon as the Manager is gone then any appreciation of them also goes immediately. Nobody I know has a good word to say about your ex's except Ole and maybe a few now realise the realism that Rangnick brought to the size of the task during his short tenure.
Forum fans are a different matter (not just United's forumites by the way). They're not mostly as invested in the club as the match goers and are often looking for success to be delivered now if not sooner. If this doesn't happen it's very easy to be impatient or downright disrespectful of whoever is trying to help United get back to the top. Many spend too long on PC games and FF sites to understand that stability and patience are required if the club are ever to get it right.
Of course the club have to have made sound appointments in the first place but can all of the people who have entered and exited over the last 11 plus years have been so bad that they've been ditched after a couple of seasons at most?
I do think that Amorim is a talented young Coach and to give him time and power to implement his own ideas will pay off eventually.
What is the alternative? I think you know the answer to that.
I've seen it on here since I signed up a decade ago, now more and more posts are basically repeating what they heard on those money making fan channels and don't they call themselves influencers?
What I'm saying is Redcafe mods job is busier now than before and social media does not reflect the match going fans.
I thought that booing Zirkzee was wrong as he wasnt the only one playing poor.
First, he was out of position and second... .how many shitty Casemiro passes did he have to contend with? I thought that Casemiro aside from the missed header played awful and was slower than most on the field by a long shot.
First, he was out of position and second... .how many shitty Casemiro passes did he have to contend with? I thought that Casemiro aside from the missed header played awful and was slower than most on the field by a long shot.
I apologize for offending some of the very obvious amazing fans of the club. Just upsetting to read some of the comments post game and I overreacted.
I'd have to say that the worst fans in the world are the City supporters on Bluemoon squealing for Pep to be sacked after his first bad run of form as a manager when he's just *won them 4 PL titles in a row.
*cheated his way to them, but that's another discussion
*cheated his way to them, but that's another discussion
Very wholesome and inspiring stuff. Well done to Wazza and the club for sorting that moment out for the lad, and massive congratulations to Ochiroo on his mammoth cycling expedition.
This is exactly why we love the club. Even when the football is poor, and the news is all negative there is something like this to lift the spirits.
He put it on EBay to pay for the match ticket. Freebie my arse. The chap had to walk home.
So predictable from you.
Could almost have predicted it word for word.
Take it to a different thread.
Worst fans? We were called that in the 70s but for different reasons. Now we are a very divided fan base but not the worst by a long chalk.
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Happy new year you filthy bastards!
Worst new year's greeting in the world.
I'd create a thread but I'm not a drama queen.
Why should I?
The OP said "I can't think of a worse fan group" so I offered the opinion that there is a fan group that's even worse.
When it’s merited, I don’t have an issue with fans displaying their anger. Surely we have that right. I just think it was unfair on Zirkzee. It isn’t his fault we are a shambles. He is a young player who only arrived in the summer; I thought the reaction to his substitution was out of order. He had a terrible game, but they all did, including a number of much more experienced players. It just felt like a mob picking on an easy target. He got it because he was the one hooked after half an hour, but I felt for him, and I don’t think Amorim should have done that to him. Take him off at half time.