Worst fans? Don’t tell that to Andres Escobar.
Okay the fans aren’t the worst
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Top marks for using the correct plural of forum, Cat. Good work.
Real fans booed Cristiano Ronaldo and Casillas to name a few. Wherever you stand on the rights and wrongs of fans booing their team, it's objectively and factually not the worse unless all you watch in world football is our games.
Not when they were 23 they didn't and new to the big leagues.
I think the treatment of Zirkzee when he was subbed was disgusting. The guy has only been here a few months, and it isn’t his fault he isn’t good enough. With everything that is wrong at the club just now, I think it’s shameful to single him out for abuse like that. United fans are better than that.
Fair enough. But I still doubt that when you take everything into consideration that our fans are the worst. Football fans in general do horrible things, ours might do too but they’re hardly a standout.
Amorim’s red and white army came through plain as day. I do hope, however, that someone tells him he can’t spend the entirety of this season trying to find his best XI. We are going to lose our next two matches guaranteed, which is relegation form. Results -based business, and maybe he needs to be a bit more pragmatic until this hex is lifted.
Does anyone actually want Amorim sacked? Anyone? Reply here if you do.
Not needed when Old Trafford is crumbling by itself everyday.
Would get rid of the rats at least.
You must be joking. Our fans are incredibly patient. Especially the matchgoing fans. They have sat through 11 years of absolute shite and have mostly been exceptional. We're near the relegation zone. Continuing to expect them support complete garbage is unfair.
Madrid and Barca fans would have killed someone if shit like this was happening at their clubs.
Madrid and Barca fans would have killed someone if shit like this was happening at their clubs.
When you say "we are the worst fans in the world", what you're really saying is "fans who disagree with me are bad fans; fans who agree with me are good fans".
Then you're not thinking. We have the best away fans in the world. The OT crowd isn't the greatest and our online fanbase is so divided and full of ops. We still give almost all former players and managers a great welcome. The people who are already Amorim out are just reactionary.
He barely ran. I am against booing players individually but ffs they need to wake up
He didn’t run and couldn’t control the ball, there’s no place to hide at this level, you can do that shit at Bologna but they’d also be fine with being 2-0 down at the half an hour mark. Its his fault he doesn’t move! The club is on fire and some players aren’t even trying, the minimum expectation is that the fans will keep you accountable for your own performances at least.
I think constructive booing should be adopted more broadly in the workplace to improve motivation.
I blame the fans and I have been blaming them for a long time. We are Manchester United for god sake. How dare do these player wear the iconic red shirt and then simply jog on the pitch? People literally died for that shirt. How dare these Aholes had placed so crippled such iconic club?
Fans are the standard bearers of this club. If standards aren't kept then they should make their voice heard. Real Madrid fans know what the shirt represent and would never allow standards to slip. Hence why they win trophies while we're in 14th place and worrying about how Zirkzee much have felt while delivering yet another shit performance
Fans are the standard bearers of this club. If standards aren't kept then they should make their voice heard. Real Madrid fans know what the shirt represent and would never allow standards to slip. Hence why they win trophies while we're in 14th place and worrying about how Zirkzee much have felt while delivering yet another shit performance
How can armchair fans also be at the game?
Because that just isn't true. If everybody, and its every single person, is pretending, maybe you're just wrong?
In certain clubs, players would need armed escort from stadium after performace like this.
The match going fans are the most patient and most lenient fans possible. Booing a player is nothing, imagine us having the patience of other big clubs from Europe, judging by our results there would have been no more chairs at OT.
Nauseating thread. Why even bother creating such tripe?
Not to argue with your overall sentiment, but as an armchair supporter I decided to back every manager post-Mou till the end. Might be a bit simplistic, but something just seemed off about the dressing room/internally at United.
That said, it doesn't keep me from commenting or critiquing decisions (Like starting with a midfield of Casemiro and Eriksen).
As for players, I can only form an opinion based on what they do on the pitch, the simple metrics being quality and effort.
All that to say, do keep from "generalisations" or "labelling, it's an exercise in futility.
Why are people so upset with booing? It's a typical practice happening every where. It is a way for a fan base to show their displease for something. Much better booing rather than have people DMing the players with abuse.
They have performed awfully for almost 18 months most of them. Some are not even pretending to care to run. Why they should be applauded? We should applaud when they are sold.
They have performed awfully for almost 18 months most of them. Some are not even pretending to care to run. Why they should be applauded? We should applaud when they are sold.
Its silly to hone in on the word everybody when on an online football forum that is full of casual turns of phrase and colliquialisms. If you're being that pedantic then i hope you're applying it to yourself for every single post, and this time i do mean every.
I wonder though which is more likely - the same stadium that never fully turned on Antony, maguire, or martial, suddenly went into raptures when a new signing in zirkzee got taken off 30 minutes in. Or, after 18 months of near torture every time casemiro and eriksen played together in CM, and watching us get absolutely hammered for the worst 30 minutes of football I've seen in years, we bring on a highly regarded, young local player, to fix the utter mess we all groaned at pre match
Gary Neville has one of his emotional meltdowns and sets the narrative for the whole football watching population
The away fans are a disgrace too. That banner to Rashford was disgusting and the fact people can't accept a true fan does not turn on their own says a lot about them.
I've never been as ashamed of our fanbase than I have this season. It's been pathetic how we have behaved and we deserve to be where we are.
There's no excuse at all and I couldn't care less about any garbage like real Madrid fans booed as well as if that excuses it
I think the majority of our fans have been absolutely brilliant throughout this mess
Have you ever been to a football game?
Go to Madrid, they don't clap their players of the pitch after a series of shit performances. The standards at United are completely broken, where to many fans applaud mediocracy for far to long.
Yes, Zirkzee was rubbish yesterday. But Amorim should have done better, and never started him, Eriksen & Casemiro together. So the blame should also go to the manager.
The players, the manager, the club, the owners should know, when performances are not acceptable. Everyone can have a bad day and short periods where nothing works. No worries, stand by the team and support them. But we have now seen the worst performances in the last 30-40 years from United this last few weeks. Not good enough. If you want to get back to the top, don't applaud someone being absolutely piss poor.
Yes, Zirkzee was rubbish yesterday. But Amorim should have done better, and never started him, Eriksen & Casemiro together. So the blame should also go to the manager.
The players, the manager, the club, the owners should know, when performances are not acceptable. Everyone can have a bad day and short periods where nothing works. No worries, stand by the team and support them. But we have now seen the worst performances in the last 30-40 years from United this last few weeks. Not good enough. If you want to get back to the top, don't applaud someone being absolutely piss poor.
Maybe we should clap and cheer when we concede and pat the players on the back for not putting a shift in?
Maybe we should be grateful to be in a relegation fight, eh?
What a thread.
Maybe we should be grateful to be in a relegation fight, eh?
What a thread.
Rashford turned on the club first. The banner was very mild and came after an interview where the player said he wanted a new challenge.
So true! "The only winning move is not to play"
The most modest group of fans ever!We are a modest group of fans too!
Seriously though, booing players is a little distasteful but this team are so disconnected from reality that it's not funny. They're all stealing huge wages to deliver utter dross. It's a shame Zirkzee got the brunt of the frustrations, but maybe the team will use it as a chance to do some self-reflection. Amad was the only one who consistently made a effort for the whole game yesterday
This, especially given the fact we've had to deal with this shite for a decade
Zirkzee has a languid stable which can look like lack of effort. Like every other player at the club, he is playing devoid of all confidence, but the booing and jeering will only make that worse. A number of players were just as bad as him last night, so I don’t think it’s fair to single out Zirkzee. He isn’t good enough, but three-quarters of the squad aren’t good enough.
We are toxic throughout - fans, players, ownership. We deserve to be relegated. This is my home club and so be it. I think it’s coming and probably needed as crazy as that may sound.
There’s languid and there’s not running into space when you don’t have the ball. He does both. If we know he wasn’t good enough, and we also know he bore the brunt of frustrations at how shit we were collectively, then he and the coaching staff also know that.
People keep saying that booing doesn’t help, but it’s feedback, and feedback helps shape people to be better. What’s worse is giving people inaccurate feedback, how can they possibly improve if they’re not aware that they aren’t reaching where they should be?
He isn’t good enough, I agree, will he ever been good enough? Probably not, but this is a learning moment for him and he’ll be better for it in the long run. United fans are super tolerant, we will accept being beaten as long as the players are trying, the thing is, they’re not trying anymore. Everyone needs a massive wake up call before we find ourselves in a relegation dogfight that they don’t have the stomach for.