The staggering Ten Hag conundrum

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Ranchero

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There are plenty of Ten Hag supporters on here. There were also plenty of Martial backers before he went on loan and did nothing. And there is a hugely vocal Van De Beek support who went to Everton on loan and did nothing.

Now i hope when Ten Hag arrives he is the answer. But the past record of Eredivisie managers coming to the Prem (a massive step up) does not point to that hope being built on anything substantial. De Boer's disastrous tenure at Palace being the most notable catastrophe. And then there's Martin Jol going to Spurs.

What bursts my noggin is our recruitment process. If we want someone we get him, not go through this drawn out process which leaves the club and side in limbo all of which has its effect not just on performances now but in future planning. We had a hole in midfield already and that is becoming an impossible chasm with Pogba, Lingard, Mata and now Matic leaving the club.

But what shows me nothing is being learnt is the interview with Ten Hag being conducted by people who are just not qualified to do so. Darren Fletcher, an effective player for us once, has no credentials to be technical director. Yet he and football director John Murtough who also has questionable qualifications have been responsible for interviewing Ten Hag.

Even though he has no experience in top flight European league football the Ajax boss still had more about him than the United representatives and it is no surprise that he felt so emboldened to speak out about the state of the club and mistakes made in the years since Sir Alex Ferguson’s retirement.

How low have we sunk that we are in the position where a manager is interviewing the club rather than the other way around.
 
Another ‘conundrum’ being that people moan about us not employing people who understand the club, but then recoil in disgust when Darren Fletcher is appointed.
 
“Staggering conundrum” :lol:

Seems we have learnt at least a little bit with the current process of recruiting for a permanent manager. But each to their own.
 
Martin Jol was loved at Spurs mate, and done a bloody good Job considering her was brought in as a number 2 to Santini.
 
I agree with OP, except one thing, it's not one massive step up, but two. Many Top Eredivisie coaches couldn't even compete in the Bundesliga and that's also below the Premier League. I'm all for testing new coaches in the search for the one, if you don't get the top coaches, BUT simple probability calculation is telling me, that it will most likely not work out. Plan B should be also in the works. (Tuchel etc)
 
I'm gonna try to break it down..
1.) Dutch managers can't do Premier League
2.) We recruit badly
3.) Since we recruit badly ETH is a bad appointment, because he's.. bigger(?) than Fletcher? Unsure on this one..

As to 1.) Martin Jol was great for Tottenham til he wasn't, like a lot of managers. Also Koeman was great for Southampton even if he failed at Everton, which a lot of managers do.
As to 2.) Yes, we have. Let's hope we don't continue to.
And for 3.) I don't want to accidentally straw man you, so I'll wait for clarification.
 
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