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altodevil said:
@nimic how often does dws leader win dpoty? What about last season?
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Almost always. The only exception I can find is last year, when Sonius had 7.6 DWS and Heine won with 7.2. For 2023 both sontodevil and Sonius had the same, and sontodevil won.

I think you skewed it a bit, since you were so stupidly dominant in DWS that of course you always won.
 
I only seem to be able to assist and steal, do I just never score or something? Never anywhere to be seen in any awards or any sort of efficiency.
 
P-Nut said:
I only seem to be able to assist and steal, do I just never score or something? Never anywhere to be seen in any awards or any sort of efficiency.
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Last season you averaged 20.5 points, this season you're averaging 20.1 so far. Lil-Nut is definitely less of a scorer than his father was, but he's also a bit more rounded. He also still has time to develop.
 
We are doing well in a tight conference and I am doing well in the awards fight, and my team hasnt done any stupid trades… happy days
 
Mismanagement absolutely ruining the two amazing teams I ever joined in what, 30 years?… I embrace these three rings even more. Ask hobbers‘ hobbers.
 
24/25 All Star Weekend Part 1
24/25 All Star Weekend Part 1

@BenitoSTARR @sebsheep @weetee @V.O. @Dr. Dwayne @Heine @oneniltothearsenal @reelworld @Solius @Skizzo @Dan @Salt Bailly @altodevil @P-Nut @hobbers

Special performances

I am sure it doesn't mean anything that a third of these are against the Nuggets.

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Standings

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Dunk Contest

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All Star Teams

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It's a miracle - no injuries!


Trades

Skizzlet (Hawks) - massive trade! The Magic really valued Jayson Tatum highly here! I think the Hawks can be satisfied with getting an almost equivalent player in return, plus another very good player and two pretty good (and pretty young) players.
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Stobzilla II (Hornets) - the Hornets now have three good Centers in their starting 5. Their 6th and 7th best players are also Centers. If you can't beat them, beat them.
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Lil-Nut (Warriors) - Warriors trading away good players in their 30s to get much younger players with pretty good potential. You can make some shrewd moves if you hang on to your aging stars until right before the trade deadline. Though why the 18-39 Suns think it makes sense to go for it now is beyond me.
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weeweetee & Lil' V.O. (Rockets) - I've decided to follow Karim Mané's career, in hopes of discovering why teams are so willing to trade away picks and players to get rid of him. This trade seems like an exception.
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Two Nil & reelworld II (Knicks) - This seems like a very good trade for the Knicks, though it does make them marginally worse immediately. That Dallas pick could be decent.
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@nimic appreciate the update on the Warriors. Did my team make any trades though?
 
Swear at the first update every season I'm in the playoff spots, come all star weekend I'm down at the play in tournament, and then by the end I'm either hanging on or just outside the play in.
 
Has to be the closest both conferences have been for a long time, looking at the movs
 
hobbers said:
Has to be the closest both conferences have been for a long time, looking at the movs
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Definitely. Also 9 "good" teams in the East, which has only happened once before, meaning last season. The West has had three, also including last season. Someone good is going to miss the playoffs. With first the altodevil Lakers gone, then the Spurs superteam, and the Durant Wizards still there but not the same, the league is more even than ever.
 
24/25 All Star Weekend Part 2
24/25 All Star Weekend Part 2

@BenitoSTARR @P-Nut @sebsheep @reelworld @weetee @Dan @Heine @V.O. @The Cat @hobbers @Solius @oneniltothearsenal @altodevil @Salt Bailly @Skizzo

3 Point Contest

1st Round - 4 advance

Keegan Murray: 24
Kelly Oubre Jr.: 22
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No way Lil-Nut survives with that score.
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If SebJr wants to stay in it, he needs weeweetee to shoot 24 or worse as well.
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It'll be weeweetee, BenitwoSTARRLET, Dan II and reelworld II in the next round! Out of those weeweetee is the only one not to have at least 3 wins already (he has none).

2nd Round - 2 advance
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Dan II is almost certainly out with only 20.
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We'll have BenitwoSTARRLET and reelworld II to shoot it out for the win. This match-up has happened twice before, in 2022 and 2019. Both times BenitwoSTARRLET came away with the... trophy? Do they give out trophies for this?

Final Round
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Oof, only 23. Every round someone seems to be shooting much worse than expected.
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reelworld II takes the win, for the 4th time! Solius won All-Star MVP the year he won his 1st, so it's been a while!


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All Star Game

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Domination by the West! Nobbers wins his second All-Star MVP.

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24/25 End of Regular Season
24/25 End of Regular Season

@BenitoSTARR @sebsheep @weetee @V.O. @Dr. Dwayne @Heine @oneniltothearsenal @reelworld @Solius @Skizzo @Dan @Salt Bailly @altodevil @P-Nut @hobbers

Final standings

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There are fully eight teams with positive records in the East, and one that has a losing record but still a positive average margin of victory. The Knicks are definitely the favourites, but they've had great records and easy top seeds before without going all the way. Two Nil in particular has had a spectacular season, but reelworld II has also done well. Is this their year? The 76ers and Hawks, with Dan II and Skizzlet respectively, will surely have something to say about that - as might Sonius' Pacers, who, if they make it through the play-in, are going to be playing the Knicks or the Celtics already in Round 1.

BenitwoSTARRLET and Stobzilla II are longer shots, having to face to clearly better teams in the play-in. But anything can happen in the span of two games. Pepper Bailly and sontodevil will have to take an earlier holiday than they probably hoped. The Bucks couldn't quite get over the line in the end, and the Cavs made it nearly impossible with their bad start to the season. Though ending the season 14-11 is something, at least.

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58-24 is a good but not overwhelmingly good record, and that probably describes the Spurs this year. Heine again has the edge over weeweetee and Lil' V.O. as far as the regular season went, but that didn't amount to much in the end last year. The two teams are in very different form, though, so maybe it's back to your regularly scheduled programming with the Spurs again beating the Rockets?

There are other teams than those two in the West, of course, though you wouldn't think it looking at the past few years. Dr. Junior has led his Thunder to a pretty good record, though their MOV might be a bit of a worry. At least he'll avoid having to play the Spurs or Rockets in the 1st Round. That's more than we can say for Nobbers and Lil-Nut, who will have to do just that if they make it through the play-in. You'd think the Pelicans would make it, but the 2nd and 3rd best players on the team are out, and they're on a 4 game losing streak as a result. Can the former MVP do it on his own?

Just like in the East, we've got a Cafite who just failed to make the play-in. SebJr's Kings went 2-8 to finish the season, which just isn't going to cut it. The Cub's Nuggets did the same, though they were never in it to begin with.


Season stats

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League leaders

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Play-in bracket

At worst we'll see only one of these Cafites in the playoffs, and at best we'll see four! BenitwoSTARRLET and Nobbers have some injury challenges right now, so that might definitely play a role in which it is.

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Brooklyn:
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New Orleans:
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24/25 Play-in tournament and Playoff bracket
Play-in tournament and Playoff bracket

@Heine @Dr. Dwayne @weetee @V.O. @hobbers @oneniltothearsenal @reelworld @Skizzo @Dan @Solius

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Stobzilla II and the Charlotte Centers Hornets prove too big of a challenge for BenitwoSTARRLET and her Nets. Hopefully the injury is the explanation for why their 4-time Three-Point Contest winner had the fewest 3 point attempts of everyone on the Nets who had at least one. Stobzilla II took 8 for the Hornets, and the only things he's worse at than shooting from 3 are jumping and running.

The Hornets will still have to beat the loser of Pacers - Magic to get to the playoffs.

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Sonius does the job! Well, him and Kevin Knox. They went all the way to the NBA Final last year, so it'd be a shame to lose them before the playoffs even start.

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Nobbers also brings his Pelicans into the playoffs, despite injuries to key players.

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Lil-Nut and the Warriors are out!

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So bad shooting by the Hornets. Stobzilla II is the only Hornet who shot well. As a result we won't be seeing them in the playoffs this season. The Magic will get to play New York.

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24/25 Playoffs 1st Round - West New
24/25 Playoffs 1st Round - West

@Heine @Dr. Dwayne @weetee @V.O. @hobbers @oneniltothearsenal @reelworld @Skizzo @Dan @Solius

I have 0 pictures to spare, but I'll give a score update for the Jazz - Lakers game, in case someone is following their non-Cafite team.

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We've got some good games in the West! The Spurs might be clear regular season winners, and the Rockets may be reigning champions, but I think anyone could beat anyone here, with some luck.

Jazz 112 - 94 Lakers


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The Spurs take an easy lead. Heine with a stupid 26/8/17 game with no turnovers and 11 blocks. Eleven. That's eleven blocks. Jamal Murray, the second star, had an abysmal 0.4 in GameScore - but if you take the average of him and Heine, that's still far better than the best Dallas player.


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Maybe I was wrong after all? Houston take an easy win as well, and now both the favourites are ahead. And that's with Nobbers putting up 33/12/7. The fact that he didn't play literally every single second is probably down to the fact that he fouled out at 43 minutes and 59 seconds. Meanwhile the Rockets have bench players dropping 30.


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Closer than the other games, but that's another win for the favourites. It's the battle of the stats for Dr. Junior, as he has a a nearly (ish) team worst GameScore and a nearly team best +/-. The only stat that matters in the end is 130-123, though.
Jazz 121 - 98 Lakers


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Another easy win for the Spurs. This might be a quick one. Losing Anthony Edwards is a potential problem, though. He should be back by the 2nd Round, but they have to make sure they get there first.


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And yet another easy win for the favourites. Maybe this is more common than I think, but it's funny how both teams have a starter who ended with a negative GameScore.


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2-0 for the all the favourites. Maybe this is just going to be three sweeps - or four, with Utah?
Jazz 100 - 122 Lakers


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That's yet another 5x5 for Heine. And it doesn't hurt the Spurs that Jamal Murray is dropping 36 points either.


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Oh, I guess it's not a sweep race after all! Nobbers with the monstrous 39/9/13 stat-line. And all the other starters contributed as well, which is pretty much a necessity for the Pelicans to beat the champions. weeweetee had a great game himself, and Lil' V.O. had an efficient one, but this one came down to the 4th-7th best players on the teams.


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One for Dr. Junior and the Thunder too! Great efficient game by our man.
Jazz 115 - 124 Lakers


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Well, at least we got one sweep in the West. The Spurs may have lost two pieces of their superteam, but they're still incredibly lucky to have Heine and Jamal Murray.


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Well well well, this one is all tied up. Yet again New Orleans showed their depth, but this time there was also a clear star discrepancy. I can't remember the last time Lil' V.O. shot as poorly as 5-15. When he's having an inefficient game, you're in trouble.


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Another tie, and another great efficient performance from Dr. Junior.

Jazz 113 - 103 Lakers


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Nobbers with the near-triple-double 37/9/10, and it trumped weeweetee's near-triple-double 34/8/9. Lil' V.O. back to efficient games, but it wasn't enough. The champions are in trouble.


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The Clippers strike back! This one could go any which way. Dr. Junior with a poor shooting performance, though he provided rebounds and assists - just not enough to make a difference.
Jazz 131 - 127 Lakers (Utah Jazz win 4-2)


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A 2-point game, and it's 3-3! The Free throw to Field Goal Attempts stat is very interesting. Clearly the Pelicans were way too foul-happy.


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We're going to game 7!

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Heartbreak for the Pelicans, who were so close to eliminating the champions. Nobbers can be proud of his playoff performance, ending with a 40/10/12. The combo of weeweetee and Lil' V.O. was just too much in the end.


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Ah, what a shame! Dr. Junior and the Thunder were 4 points away from eliminating the Clippers. He might be wondering "what if", but our man had a pretty good playoffs overall.


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Well, that's a familiar sight. The Spurs, the Rockets, and then also the Jazz. The Clippers are the wild-card here.
 
weetee: 2
hobbers: 0

And both times extremely close. you love to see this!
 
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nimic said:
24/25 Playoffs 1st Round - West

@Heine @Dr. Dwayne @weetee @V.O. @hobbers @oneniltothearsenal @reelworld @Skizzo @Dan @Solius

I have 0 pictures to spare, but I'll give a score update for the Jazz - Lakers game, in case someone is following their non-Cafite team.

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We've got some good games in the West! The Spurs might be clear regular season winners, and the Rockets may be reigning champions, but I think anyone could beat anyone here, with some luck.

Jazz 112 - 94 Lakers


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The Spurs take an easy lead. Heine with a stupid 26/8/17 game with no turnovers and 11 blocks. Eleven. That's eleven blocks. Jamal Murray, the second star, had an abysmal 0.4 in GameScore - but if you take the average of him and Heine, that's still far better than the best Dallas player.


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Maybe I was wrong after all? Houston take an easy win as well, and now both the favourites are ahead. And that's with Nobbers putting up 33/12/7. The fact that he didn't play literally every single second is probably down to the fact that he fouled out at 43 minutes and 59 seconds. Meanwhile the Rockets have bench players dropping 30.


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Closer than the other games, but that's another win for the favourites. It's the battle of the stats for Dr. Junior, as he has a a nearly (ish) team worst GameScore and a nearly team best +/-. The only stat that matters in the end is 130-123, though.
Jazz 121 - 98 Lakers


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Another easy win for the Spurs. This might be a quick one. Losing Anthony Edwards is a potential problem, though. He should be back by the 2nd Round, but they have to make sure they get there first.


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And yet another easy win for the favourites. Maybe this is more common than I think, but it's funny how both teams have a starter who ended with a negative GameScore.


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2-0 for the all the favourites. Maybe this is just going to be three sweeps - or four, with Utah?
Jazz 100 - 122 Lakers


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That's yet another 5x5 for Heine. And it doesn't hurt the Spurs that Jamal Murray is dropping 36 points either.


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Oh, I guess it's not a sweep race after all! Nobbers with the monstrous 39/9/13 stat-line. And all the other starters contributed as well, which is pretty much a necessity for the Pelicans to beat the champions. weeweetee had a great game himself, and Lil' V.O. had an efficient one, but this one came down to the 4th-7th best players on the teams.


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One for Dr. Junior and the Thunder too! Great efficient game by our man.
Jazz 115 - 124 Lakers


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Well, at least we got one sweep in the West. The Spurs may have lost two pieces of their superteam, but they're still incredibly lucky to have Heine and Jamal Murray.


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Well well well, this one is all tied up. Yet again New Orleans showed their depth, but this time there was also a clear star discrepancy. I can't remember the last time Lil' V.O. shot as poorly as 5-15. When he's having an inefficient game, you're in trouble.


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Another tie, and another great efficient performance from Dr. Junior.

Jazz 113 - 103 Lakers


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Nobbers with the near-triple-double 37/9/10, and it trumped weeweetee's near-triple-double 34/8/9. Lil' V.O. back to efficient games, but it wasn't enough. The champions are in trouble.


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The Clippers strike back! This one could go any which way. Dr. Junior with a poor shooting performance, though he provided rebounds and assists - just not enough to make a difference.
Jazz 131 - 127 Lakers (Utah Jazz win 4-2)


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A 2-point game, and it's 3-3! The Free throw to Field Goal Attempts stat is very interesting. Clearly the Pelicans were way too foul-happy.


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We're going to game 7!

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Heartbreak for the Pelicans, who were so close to eliminating the champions. Nobbers can be proud of his playoff performance, ending with a 40/10/12. The combo of weeweetee and Lil' V.O. was just too much in the end.


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Ah, what a shame! Dr. Junior and the Thunder were 4 points away from eliminating the Clippers. He might be wondering "what if", but our man had a pretty good playoffs overall.


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Well, that's a familiar sight. The Spurs, the Rockets, and then also the Jazz. The Clippers are the wild-card here.
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24/25 Playoffs 1st Round - East New
24/25 Playoffs 1st Round - East

@oneniltothearsenal @Skizzo @reelworld @Dan @Solius @Heine @weetee @V.O.

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The Hawks have absolutely demolished the Bulls. Four players with 20+ points, and one of them is Skizzlet. He had 9 blocks to boot, nearly getting a triple double with 0 assists.


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Boston came into the 4th quarter with a lead, but Indiana caught them and passed them, fuelled by some great starter performances. Sonius finishing with a great 28/18/7 (and 5 blocks on top of that). Brandon Boston Jr., who I can only assume is the heir to the Boston Celtics fortune, with a very efficient performance for Boston.


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Easy win for the Knicks. Three stars with good (but not amazing) performances, and that was plenty enough.


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26 points from Dan II isn't going to cut it for the 76ers. If they want to win, they ought to give Dan II 30 shots, or more. It's an ominous sign that the Wizards can win comfortably even when Kevin Durant gets 12 points on 12 shots.

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Closer than last game, but Atlanta takes a 2-0 lead. Another grand performance by Skizzlet.


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The Celtics grab game 2! Well, it's more like the Pacers politely handed them game 2. While Sonius isn't primarily a volume scorer, you're in a bit of trouble if he has more offensive rebounds, total rebounds, assists, steals, blocks and fouls than points. 1 point is 8 fewer than his second lowest haul this season, and the only reason it's not his lowest ever is that he got injured 3 minutes into a game once.

(And with that I've discovered I can sort through individual players' game logs (per season), so I might do something with that the next time I do some stats - and definitely at the end of the simulation)


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Another crushing victory for the New York Knicks. Two Nil with a preposterous 25/26/8 game, with 5 steals on top of that. reelworld II played second fiddle this time, but 22/5/10 is no mean performance.


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That's the second game in a row Devin Booker is injured, and it's starting to become a problem. Dan II going 2 out of 16 from 3 is another problem, but he'd have to have gone 8-16 for it to make any difference.

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Another good game by Skizzlet, but it's not enough this time. Zion with the monster performance, and the Bulls are back in it. This game means Skizzlet has officially doubled his total playoff appearance count. Well, more than doubled if you don't count the play-in tournament, which honestly you shouldn't.


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A 7-point win might not look too comfortable for the Pacers, but considering the Celtics beat the Pacers by 22 points in the final quarter, you don't get the impression Indiana was ever in any danger of losing.


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A much closer win than we've seen so far in this series, but a win is a win. It's 3-0 any way you cut it.


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A closer game in this series too, but the end result is the same as in the previous one. Kevin Durant's 10 turnovers wasn't quite enough to make up for his 24 points. Dan II with a good game, but the 76ers seem clueless defensively (Durant turnovers notwithstanding). Maybe trading John Collins wasn't so clever after all.

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Easy win for the Hawks, and this one is looking near over.


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Sonius leads the Pacers to a 3-1 lead with a storming 26/29/5 game, with 6 blocks, but the injury to Isaiah Jackson isn't a great development for Indiana. Admittedly they are well covered in his position, but he's also been having a pretty good series so far.


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reelworld II takes a game off, basically, but it's still easily enough for the Knicks to sweep the Magic. Jayson Tatum going 3-22 didn't hurt, nor Two Nil going 23/18/7 in only 23 and a half minutes.


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Now, this I did not expect! The Wizards have gone and swept the 76ers. Old news beating new... news. 37-year old Kevin Durant with a 34/9/4 game, proving he's still got it. It doesn't hurt that he's actually got a pretty decent team around him, who might be a challenge for whomever they meet in the 2nd Round.

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The team with 3 good Centers beats the team with 0 good Centers. I guess that settles the age old question. Skizzlet with a tidy performance, and nothing more was required of him.


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A good, not great, performance by Sonius, and it's plenty enough when it's matched by several other Indiana players. Anthony Davis and Bones Hyland were unable to stem the tide, and the end result is the Pacers are back in the 2nd Round! Last year they had a somewhat better record in getting there, but they also played and beat the 62-win Knicks. This time it's merely the Kevin Durant Wizards.


Now, if everyone could just do me a favour and have quick, short 2nd Round series. Ideally 4.5 games on average, so I can get away with no combined pictures.

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You should post the goat list every update just so I can reminisce
 
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