Should’ve played me more… sontodevil is a funny player, 35 minutes 0 pts
Gaming The RedCafe NBA Simulation 2025 | Playoffs: 1st Round - East + West | Basketball GM |
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Didn't shoot once. My boy.
Might still have a bit left in the old legs then
@nimic , seeing my boy being injured again for the all-star game made me thinking: is weetee the only hall of famer who never was an all star?
I took a quick check, and I couldn't find anyone else at least.
Thanks!
18/19 End of Regular Season
18/19 End of Regular Season
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Final standings
Pretty much what I expected, all things considered. Dr. Junior & BenitoSTARR have had a consistently good season with the Cavs, and they were just about to keep ahead of Dan II and the 76ers. Two Nil & Stobzilla II maintained their meh form, but it was still easily enough. It's still a much closer East than in years, so all of our Cafites have a chance at going far.
Skizzlet was not able to maintain the good start with the Hawks, while reelworld II was able to turn things around a little bit. It wasn't enough to get above the line in the end, but it's something. The two Cafites at the bottom will be very disappointed with the seasons their teams have had - again. SebJr improved somewhat on the Heat's form, if not their positioning, while The Cub seems to have picked very poorly when his contract expired. Might be a decent time to take his one contract break, unless the Nets draft very well.
11 Cafites from the West made the playoffs. The only one who didn't was Solius, who realistically never expected to anyway. The season was still far better than the last one for the Pelicans. Above the line we've got sontodevil and the Grizzlies, who seem clinically unable to avoid playing one of the juggernauts in the 1st Round. It'll take a miracle for him to beat the Spurs, or a lot of injuries. Pepper Bailly also made the playoffs with some margin, though the recent form is not promising. His Timberwolves will play the resurgent Nuggets. BenitwoSTARRLET and P-Nut are clear favourites.
And then you have the Rockets and the Spurs. Obviously. They ended on the same record, with weeweetee & Lil' V.O. capturing the top spot. The tiebreaker was that Houston won the division, though they had the same record there too (13-3). The tiebreaker for that was that they had the better record against Western Conference Teams, 47-5 against 46-6. Regardless, we've been here before, and I still think that Nobbers, Heine, Sonius & altodevil are just too strong in the playoffs not to be the favourites.
Playoff bracket
The West is going to be a Caf bloodbath.
Regular season leaders
Regular season stats
Playoff preview
Denver Nuggets
New York Knicks
Houston Rockets
Phoenix Suns
Washington Wizards
@BenitoSTARR @Dan @Dr. Dwayne @P-Nut @Salt Bailly @Skizzo @Solius @Stobzilla @The Cat @V.O. @altodevil @hobbers @oneniltothearsenal @reelworld @sebsheep @weetee @Heine
Final standings
Pretty much what I expected, all things considered. Dr. Junior & BenitoSTARR have had a consistently good season with the Cavs, and they were just about to keep ahead of Dan II and the 76ers. Two Nil & Stobzilla II maintained their meh form, but it was still easily enough. It's still a much closer East than in years, so all of our Cafites have a chance at going far.
Skizzlet was not able to maintain the good start with the Hawks, while reelworld II was able to turn things around a little bit. It wasn't enough to get above the line in the end, but it's something. The two Cafites at the bottom will be very disappointed with the seasons their teams have had - again. SebJr improved somewhat on the Heat's form, if not their positioning, while The Cub seems to have picked very poorly when his contract expired. Might be a decent time to take his one contract break, unless the Nets draft very well.
11 Cafites from the West made the playoffs. The only one who didn't was Solius, who realistically never expected to anyway. The season was still far better than the last one for the Pelicans. Above the line we've got sontodevil and the Grizzlies, who seem clinically unable to avoid playing one of the juggernauts in the 1st Round. It'll take a miracle for him to beat the Spurs, or a lot of injuries. Pepper Bailly also made the playoffs with some margin, though the recent form is not promising. His Timberwolves will play the resurgent Nuggets. BenitwoSTARRLET and P-Nut are clear favourites.
And then you have the Rockets and the Spurs. Obviously. They ended on the same record, with weeweetee & Lil' V.O. capturing the top spot. The tiebreaker was that Houston won the division, though they had the same record there too (13-3). The tiebreaker for that was that they had the better record against Western Conference Teams, 47-5 against 46-6. Regardless, we've been here before, and I still think that Nobbers, Heine, Sonius & altodevil are just too strong in the playoffs not to be the favourites.
Playoff bracket
The West is going to be a Caf bloodbath.
Regular season leaders
Regular season stats
Playoff preview
Denver Nuggets
New York Knicks
Houston Rockets
Phoenix Suns
Washington Wizards
Second in conference on 74-8 is quite something… Then again, everyone knows we are just coasting in the regular season and will turn on in the playoffs
Quite a lot of injured players. Going almost solo vs Mavs
@nimic activate sontodevil escape clause
29/11/3 - Another great season, capped off by a playoff appearance, no stat decreases and another similar bump in skill ratings would be nice 
. hopefully we can take advantage of Washington's injury situation.
. hopefully we can take advantage of Washington's injury situation.If everyone does it at the same time, the risk is that you just all trade teams. Although maybe another team would be really good if you swapped some players around, who knows.
Maybe we can add a second caveat, which I mentioned a while ago I think. If you've spent 3 years at your team, you're allowed to break your contract (instead of the 5 years that most take). I could just set max contract length to 3 years, but that might mess up some other stuff.
Tear up that Cub contract
Go back in time and tear up Hobbers bobcat contract, thanks.
Nice. Whatever Player efficiency rating is, I'm the best at it!
2019 Playoffs 1st Round
2019 NBA Playoffs 1st Round
Well, time to see how the new upgrade messed with my work flow for these updates. Probably not too much, but I reserve the right to moan anyway.
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Sadly the two upsets both involved Cafites losing. It probably won't matter much in the long run, though. I fully expect Houston, San Antonio, Boston and Washington to make it to the final. You'd think the winner would be from the West, but Kevin Durant seems to have entered these playoffs with a chip on his shoulder.
Well, time to see how the new upgrade messed with my work flow for these updates. Probably not too much, but I reserve the right to moan anyway.
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Houston Rockets (1) weeweetee: 29/6/5 (6stl/1blk) Lil' V.O.: 16/18/3 (5stl/4blk) | 120 | 81 | Dallas Mavericks (0) |
Golden State Warriors (0) hobbers: 12/8/12 (1blk) | 118 | 121 | Phoenix Suns (1) |
Denver Nuggets (1) BenitwoSTARRLET: 7/3/6 (5blk) P-Nut: 25/2/13 (1stl) | 110 | 107 | Minnesota Timberwolves (0) Pepper Bailly: 42/13/11 (1stl/1blk) |
San Antonio Spurs (1) Nobbers: 27/2/4 (2stl/1blk) Heine: 22/4/9 (2stl/3blk) Sonius: 23/13/4 (1blk) altodevil: 2/15/2 (1stl/3blk) | 137 | 87 | Memphis Grizzlies (0) sontodevil: 12/18/8 (3stl/4blk) |
Philadelphia 76ers (1) Dan II: 29/5/0 (1blk) | 113 | 91 | Toronto Raptors (0) |
Cleveland Cavaliers (0) Dr. Junior: 8/3/1 (2stl/3blk) BenitoSTARR: 15/6/0 (5blk) | 99 | 113 | Chicago Bulls (1) |
Washington Wizards (1) | 126 | 111 | New York Knicks (0) Two Nil: 16/12/8 /2blk) Stobzilla II: 44/15/3 (1stl) |
Houston Rockets (2) weeweetee: 23/6/5 (3stl) Lil' V.O.:9/11/3 (2stl/4blk) | 113 | 84 | Dallas Mavericks (0) |
Golden State Warriors (0) hobbers: 8/2/14 | 106 | 122 | Phoenix Suns (2) |
Denver Nuggets (1) BenitwoSTARRLET: 20/6/6 (5blk) P-Nut: 18/1/10 (2blk) | 111 | 118 | Minnesota Timberwolves (1) Pepper Bailly: 31/7/10 (2stl) |
San Antonio Spurs (2) Nobbers: 34/3/3 (3stl) Heine: 9/7/6 (5stl) Sonius: 11/9/2 (6blk) altodevil: 0/8/1 (2stl/2blk) | 124 | 73 | Memphis Grizzlies (0) sontodevil: 6/16/10 (1blk) |
Philadelphia 76ers (2) Dan II: 19/2/2 (2blk) | 131 | 120 | Toronto Raptors (0) |
Cleveland Cavaliers (0) Dr. Junior: 11/6/1 (2stl/2blk) BenitoSTARR: 12/1/1 (3blk) | 106 | 107 | Chicago Bulls (2) |
Washington Wizards (2) | 114 | 110 | New York Knicks (0) Two Nil: 17/14/11 (1stl) Stobzilla II: 33/9/1 |
Houston Rockets (3) weeweetee: 28/8/11 (8stl) Lil' V.O.:16/18/7 (1stl/4blk) | 106 | 98 | Dallas Mavericks (0) |
Golden State Warriors (0) hobbers: 6/0/2 injured) | 115 | 118 | Phoenix Suns (3) |
Denver Nuggets (1) BenitwoSTARRLET: 27/4/2 (4blk) P-Nut: 23/1/13 (1stl) | 113 | 124 | Minnesota Timberwolves (2) Pepper Bailly: 31/11/12 (1stl/1blk) |
San Antonio Spurs (3) Nobbers: 27/4/8 (2stl/3blk) Heine: 11/2/5 (2stl) Sonius: 6/9/0 (1stl/5blk) altodevil: 5/16/1 (3stl/1blk) | 129 | 81 | Memphis Grizzlies (0) sontodevil: 1/18/5 (2stl/5blk) |
Philadelphia 76ers Dan II: 20/3/1 (1blk) | 110 | 85 | Toronto Raptors (0) |
Cleveland Cavaliers (1) Dr. Junior: 22/6/1 (1blk) BenitoSTARR: 14/3/0 (1stl/1blk) | 115 | 108 | Chicago Bulls (2) |
Washington Wizards (3) | 130 | 126 | New York Knicks Two Nil: 29/20/10 (2stl/2blk) Stobzilla II: 25/8/1 (1stl) |
Houston Rockets (4) WIN! weeweetee: 26/3/7 (4stl) Lil' V.O.: 24/29/3 (4stl/5blk) | 120 | 92 | Dallas Mavericks (0) LOSE! |
Golden State Warriors (0)LOSE! hobbers: out injured | 104 | 138 | Phoenix Suns (4) WIN! |
Denver Nuggets (2) BenitwoSTARRLET: 21/3/5 (2blk) P-Nut: 22/2/14 (1blk) | 129 | 128 | Minnesota Timberwolves (2) Pepper Bailly: 31/10/12 (1blk) |
San Antonio Spurs (4) WIN! Nobbers: 45/7/7 (3stl/1blk) Heine: 5/6/6 (4stl/4blk) Sonius: 24/9/4 (1blk) altodevil: 1/11/0 (2stl/1blk) | 110 | 80 | Memphis Grizzlies (0) LOSE! sontodevil: 4/16/9 (4stl/6blk) |
Philadelphia 76ers (3) Dan II: 19/1/0 (2stl/1blk) | 104 | 116 | Toronto Raptors (1) |
Cleveland Cavaliers (1) Dr. Junior: 15/2/2 (1blk) BenitoSTARR: 10/2/2 (1blk) | 130 | 128 | Chicago Bulls (3) |
Washington Wizards (4) WIN! | 116 | 110 | New York Knicks (0) LOSE! Two Nil: 35/23/13 (2stl/4blk) Stobzilla II: 12/11/4 (1stl) |
Denver Nuggets (3) BenitwoSTARRLET: 28/4/6 (7blk) P-Nut:9/3/13 (2stl) | 117 | 95 | Minnesota Timberwolves (2) Pepper Bailly: 8/2/3 |
Philadelphia 76ers (4) WIN! Dan II: 25/2/1 | 111 | 91 | Toronto Raptors (1) LOSE! |
Cleveland Cavaliers (2) Dr. Junior: 16/2/0 (3blk) BenitoSTARR: 13/7/0 (1stl/1blk) | 101 | 109 | Chicago Bulls (3) |
Denver Nuggets (4) WIN! BenitwoSTARRLET: 28/7/4 (8blk) P-Nut:24/1/7 | 114 | 101 | Minnesota Timberwolves (2) LOSE! Pepper Bailly: 26/6/12 (1stl/1blk) |
Cleveland Cavaliers (2) LOSE! Dr. Junior: 11/6/1 (3stl/1blk) BenitoSTARR: 5/1/0 (1stl/1blk) | 108 | 120 | Chicago Bulls (4) WIN! |
Sadly the two upsets both involved Cafites losing. It probably won't matter much in the long run, though. I fully expect Houston, San Antonio, Boston and Washington to make it to the final. You'd think the winner would be from the West, but Kevin Durant seems to have entered these playoffs with a chip on his shoulder.
Durant
Kevin "Death Throws" Durant
One down, 3 to go
Preview for the 2nd Round
Well looking at that spread it was fun while it lasted.
2019 Playoffs 2nd Round
2019 Playoffs 2nd Round
@weetee @V.O. @hobbers @Heine @Solius @altodevil @BenitoSTARR @P-Nut @Dan
Are we looking at three quick sweeps?
I guess not! The absence of Nobbers is clearly felt in San Antonio.
Dan II is eliminated, though he did what he could. The 76ers just weren't going to beat the Celtics.
Very surprisingly, the Nuggets are now in the lead! This is the most difficulty the Spurs have had in the playoffs before the Final since before the current iteration. The Rockets put away the Suns, and get to take a few days off.
Nobbers is back, and even hobbled he's still putting up numbers.
Well! Very predictably we're going to have the Houston Rockets against the San Antonio Spurs in the final, though we came quite close to having the Denver Nuggets in there instead of the Spurs. Also, Sonius getting injured in the last match makes for a very intriguing series, I'm sure. 12 games means he'll miss the series even if it goes to 7. Nobbers is also still playing with a minor injury, which he already re-aggravated earlier this series.
In the East it's also 1-seed versus 2-seed. Kevin Durant wasn't as dominant in the 2nd Round as he was in the 1st (no 60-bombs), but my money is still on the Wizards to make the NBA Final.
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Houston Rockets (1) weeweetee: 27/6/4 (2blk) Lil' V.O.: 13/18/1 (7stl/6blk) | 99 | 87 | Phoenix Suns (0) |
San Antonio Spurs (1) Nobbers: 13/5/11 (2blk) injured Heine: 16/4/6 (3blk) Sonius: 11/7/2 (5blk) altodevil: 0/14/0 (2stl) | 134 | 100 | Denver Nuggets (0) BenitwoSTARRLET: 8/0/1 (2blk) P-Nut: 23/1/5 |
Boston Celtics (1) | 109 | 85 | Philadelphia 76ers (0) Dan II: 24/1/0 (1stl) |
Houston Rockets (2) weeweetee: 34/7/7 (2stl/4blk) Lil' V.O.: 17/21/4 (3stl/3blk) | 127 | 114 | Phoenix Suns (0) |
San Antonio Spurs (2) Nobbers: 34/4/6 (2stl) injured Heine: 20/3/8 (6stl) Sonius: 15/11/0 (1stl/1blk) altodevil: 2/9/1 (1stl/1blk) | 133 | 107 | Denver Nuggets (0) BenitwoSTARRLET: 18/3/2 P-Nut: 13/1/7 (1blk) |
Boston Celtics (2) | 103 | 89 | Philadelphia 76ers (0) Dan II: 27/2/1 (2stl/2blk) |
Are we looking at three quick sweeps?
Houston Rockets (2) weeweetee: 17/8/7 (3stl/2blk) Lil' V.O.: 10/17/8 (4stl/9blk) | 105 | 112 | Phoenix Suns (1) |
San Antonio Spurs (2) Nobbers: out injured Heine: 32/3/11 (3stl/4blk) Sonius: 5/12/0 (1stl/7blk) altodevil: 2/10/0 (2blk) | 112 | 119 | Denver Nuggets (1) BenitwoSTARRLET: 16/6/2 (8blk) P-Nut: 17/2/6 (1stl/2blk) |
Boston Celtics (3) | 125 | 114 | Philadelphia 76ers (0) Dan II: 27/1/0 (2stl/1blk) |
I guess not! The absence of Nobbers is clearly felt in San Antonio.
Houston Rockets (3) weeweetee: 39/8/4 (2stl/2blk) Lil' V.O.: 12/20/7 (6stl/5blk) | 121 | 112 | Phoenix Suns (1) |
San Antonio Spurs (2) Nobbers: out injured Heine: 27/4/7 (6stl/2blk) Sonius: 17/12/3 (1stl/5blk) altodevil: 4/12/0 (2stl/3blk) | 129 | 136 | Denver Nuggets (2) BenitwoSTARRLET: 15/5/2 (1stl/8blk) P-Nut: 15/2/4 |
Boston Celtics (4) WIN! | 113 | 104 | Philadelphia 76ers (0) LOSE! Dan II: 21/2/0 (1blk) |
Dan II is eliminated, though he did what he could. The 76ers just weren't going to beat the Celtics.
Houston Rockets (4) WIN! weeweetee: 42/7/6 (1blk) Lil' V.O.: 24/14/4 (1stl/4blk) | 132 | 109 | Phoenix Suns (1) LOSE! |
San Antonio Spurs (2) Nobbers: out injured Heine: 18/2/8 (1stl/2blk) Sonius: 22/14/2 (2blk) altodevil: 2/13/1 (2stl/1blk) | 117 | 119 | Denver Nuggets (3) BenitwoSTARRLET: 21/1/3 (8blk) P-Nut: 18/1/9 |
Very surprisingly, the Nuggets are now in the lead! This is the most difficulty the Spurs have had in the playoffs before the Final since before the current iteration. The Rockets put away the Suns, and get to take a few days off.
San Antonio Spurs (3) Nobbers: 35/5/4 (1stl/1blk) playing injured Heine: 27/4/8 Sonius: 11/18/3 (2blk) altodevil: 2/8/1 (2stl/2blk) | 115 | 103 | Denver Nuggets (3) BenitwoSTARRLET: 23/2/3 (3blk) P-Nut: 15/0/4 |
Nobbers is back, and even hobbled he's still putting up numbers.
| San Antonio Spurs (4) WIN! Nobbers: 41/5/9 (2stl/1blk) playing injured Heine: 16/2/13 (2stl) Sonius: 2/1/0 (1stl/1blk) injured altodevil: 2/20/0 (2stl/6blk) | 134 | 122 | Denver Nuggets (3) LOSE! BenitwoSTARRLET: 29/5/3 (7blk) P-Nut: 20/1/6 (2blk) |
Well! Very predictably we're going to have the Houston Rockets against the San Antonio Spurs in the final, though we came quite close to having the Denver Nuggets in there instead of the Spurs. Also, Sonius getting injured in the last match makes for a very intriguing series, I'm sure. 12 games means he'll miss the series even if it goes to 7. Nobbers is also still playing with a minor injury, which he already re-aggravated earlier this series.
In the East it's also 1-seed versus 2-seed. Kevin Durant wasn't as dominant in the 2nd Round as he was in the 1st (no 60-bombs), but my money is still on the Wizards to make the NBA Final.
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Please tear up reelworld II contract @nimic
Consider it torn
Ah great so the game has decided to repeatedly feck us for no reason.
Injuries. Yawn.
| Houston Rockets (1) weeweetee: 2776/4 (2blk) Lil' V.O.: 13/18/1 (7stl/6blk) |
@nimic anybody else made 2776 pts in one game before?
IIRC spurs first title was secured when I got injured, still favorites too now but top whining.
Thank feck for Nobbers
Trying to take us out with dirty tricks…
Kinda realistic if we start getting mote injuries. Only Wizards have played as many games the last season
Kinda realistic if we start getting mote injuries. Only Wizards have played as many games the last season
Conference Finals preview (the overall ratings are current, including injuries)
They're still favorites I said!
2019 Playoffs Conference Finals
2019 Playoffs Conference Finals
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It's the Spurs against the Rockets again! This is the third time they meet in the Conference Finals. The Spurs won both of the previous encounters, 4-2 in 2016 and 4-1 in 2018. They would have met in 2017 as well, but Houston were knocked out by Utah in the previous round.
On the other side of the brackets we have the Celtics and the Wizards. The Durant-led Wizards have in the past 4 NBA Finals, and we haven't seen a different team than than Washington and Boston representing the East since 2012 - when Lil' V.O.'s old man won his unexpected late career ring.
Disaster for the Spurs! Nobbers picked up back spasms early in the 2nd Round, and then re-aggravated it later in that same series. His (reduced) return was instrumental in them getting past the Nuggets in the end, but now he's re-aggravated the injury again. With Sonius already out for the entire series, this might be the nail in the coffin. The strength of the Spurs has always been the stupidly strong starting 5, but they're not particularly deep.
A 40 point (and 39 shot) game by Jamal Murray was not enough for the Spurs - the Rockets are in charge of this tie!
3-0! weeweetee and Lil' V.O. are taking turns being the best player on the team, but they are both consistently good. The Spurs are trying, but it's not enough. Though we're getting some vintage altodevil performances. I suspect that's why the games are as relatively close as they are. Well, some of them.
The sweep is complete! The Rockets will finally have the chance of fulfilling the promise of their talent. I'm almost positive that's a coherent sentence. Either way, we'll see the Houston boys in the NBA Final. Now the only question remains is who they'll face there. Right now all even between the Wizards and the Celtics, despite some great Durant performances.
We go to game 7!
It'll be Washington again, for the 5th season in a row (and their 9th in 12 seasons). He's had some absolute storming games these playoffs. He's averaging 42/11/9. Can weeweetee, Lil' V.O. and the other Rockets contain him?
@weetee @V.O. @hobbers @Heine @Solius @altodevil
It's the Spurs against the Rockets again! This is the third time they meet in the Conference Finals. The Spurs won both of the previous encounters, 4-2 in 2016 and 4-1 in 2018. They would have met in 2017 as well, but Houston were knocked out by Utah in the previous round.
On the other side of the brackets we have the Celtics and the Wizards. The Durant-led Wizards have in the past 4 NBA Finals, and we haven't seen a different team than than Washington and Boston representing the East since 2012 - when Lil' V.O.'s old man won his unexpected late career ring.
Disaster for the Spurs! Nobbers picked up back spasms early in the 2nd Round, and then re-aggravated it later in that same series. His (reduced) return was instrumental in them getting past the Nuggets in the end, but now he's re-aggravated the injury again. With Sonius already out for the entire series, this might be the nail in the coffin. The strength of the Spurs has always been the stupidly strong starting 5, but they're not particularly deep.
A 40 point (and 39 shot) game by Jamal Murray was not enough for the Spurs - the Rockets are in charge of this tie!
3-0! weeweetee and Lil' V.O. are taking turns being the best player on the team, but they are both consistently good. The Spurs are trying, but it's not enough. Though we're getting some vintage altodevil performances. I suspect that's why the games are as relatively close as they are. Well, some of them.
The sweep is complete! The Rockets will finally have the chance of fulfilling the promise of their talent. I'm almost positive that's a coherent sentence. Either way, we'll see the Houston boys in the NBA Final. Now the only question remains is who they'll face there. Right now all even between the Wizards and the Celtics, despite some great Durant performances.
We go to game 7!
It'll be Washington again, for the 5th season in a row (and their 9th in 12 seasons). He's had some absolute storming games these playoffs. He's averaging 42/11/9. Can weeweetee, Lil' V.O. and the other Rockets contain him?
Disgusting.
Yawwwn, more unlikely series of injuries than sontodevil lying about his age.
Makes a mockery of it all
Reaggravated injury twice in consecutive series while in the history of the league no one else playing injured in a playoff game has had it happen once.
Makes a mockery of it all
Reaggravated injury twice in consecutive series while in the history of the league no one else playing injured in a playoff game has had it happen once.
Spurs 
Seeing as we're apparently going around smashing kneecaps and taking scalpels to people's backs anyway, can we please just shoot Durant before the finals?
Seeing as we're apparently going around smashing kneecaps and taking scalpels to people's backs anyway, can we please just shoot Durant before the finals?
I will kill you.Taking it with grace, I see