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nimic said:
@V.O. is on the New Jersey Nets (42-40)
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V.O. cursed himself for ending up on the New Jersey Nets, but they aren't terrible this season, are they? V.O. is their superstar, and they've got a very solid group after him. Mind you, the members of that group are nearly universally on the last year of their contract, so it might be now or never. The Nets are also "rebuilding", mind.
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So much potential up and down the squad... and most of them are probably fecking off at the end of the season. Typical. :lol:
 
07/08 - 25 Game Update
07/08 25-Game Update

MOV = average margin of victory

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Some trades!

@Dan, @BenitoSTARR, @sebsheep - and then there were two! I'll be honest, I don't think this made the Knicks any better. This might be what "rebuilding" looks like.
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I guess they really wanted Jordan Farmar. He's 8 years younger than old-man-Dan, to be fair. There go two other decent players, though.
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Here's Dan's new team, the Milwaukee Bucks - not half bad.

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@Skizzo - these seem like very aggressive moves for a team that is bad and I assume wanted to stay like that.
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@Stobzilla - this is a very not big deal, I just included it because it's funny how lowly they valued that perfectly okay player.
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I just win, it's what I do. Praying for an injury-free season.
 
When‘s LeBron stepping up!?

Update please!
 
Hope the team can still carry me to a ring(?)
 
The Cat said:
Anyone with 3 rings yet? Just wondering.
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You lost two finals on top as well, right? Not sure if you‘ve been with sol and me already at the first one, only one alto ever won, or not.
 
altodevil said:
I just win, it's what I do. Praying for an injury-free season.
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The Cat said:
Anyone with 3 rings yet? Just wondering.
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weetee said:
You lost two finals on top as well, right? Not sure if you‘ve been with sol and me that first one, only one alto ever won, or not.
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This is precisely what I was hoping for when I started this :lol:

What I couldn't predict was the single best player in the world going "I wish I could be Stobzilla".
 
nimic said:
This is precisely what I was hoping for when I started this :lol:

What I couldn't predict was the single best player in the world going "I wish I could be Stobzilla".
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Was thinking about suicide before but man'd up - and am chilling with LeBron (a bit too much) now.

Curious, would it be technically possible with this game, that participants/we have some kind of draft system so have x teams running against each other, maybe all in one conference even, duking it out? So no new players created but new team(roosters)? Maybe excluding the 1-3 elite players for draft.

*by „x teams“ I mean x teams managed/set up by us players.


sebsheep said:
Will pop you in my man-bag
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He's a happy hammer now.
 
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weetee said:
Curious, would it be technically possible with this game, that participants/we have some kind of draft system so have x teams running against each other, maybe all in one conference even, duking it out? So no new players created but new team(roosters)? Maybe excluding the 1-3 elite players for draft.
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I'm not 100% sure what you mean here, so it's hard to say. With God Mode I can do a lot. I could easily have done a team experiment instead of a player one, and I was considering it. I even toyed with the idea of having an actual draft (as in you guys pick your players), but not sure how that would even work logistically.
 
nimic said:
I'm not 100% sure what you mean here, so it's hard to say. With God Mode I can do a lot. I could easily have done a team experiment instead of a player one, and I was considering it. I even toyed with the idea of having an actual draft (as in you guys pick your players), but not sure how that would even work logistically.
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Would be a different game with this simulator. Say we have 10 players from redcafe: could we take the i.e. 1996 campaign as a basis and each player could form their own squad, say everybody has 350 (dunno, number pulled off my ass) skill points (overall points, not potential) to spend and PM you/gamegod their selected roster. Then those 10 teams (would be edited NBA franchises) play that ai-simulated campaign - downside is there would be lots of cloned Jordans and what not but maybe that's still fun or - that's what I thought about at first - a kind of drafting system, bit like the fantasy football one here, where we'd pick players one after each other. but maybe that's too much micro managing.

No idea if that'd be fun. It would be over much quicker too.
 
07/08 Trade Deadline Update
Since you guys are so chatty today I feel like you deserve another update, so:

07/08 Trade Deadline Update

Pretty clear what the Conference power balance is here. The 9th seed in the East, the Atlanta Hawks, has as many wins as the 3rd seed in the West (though one more loss). @altodevil and the Lakers have slowed down a bit, but 46-5 is still a formidable record, so it's possible they're still the team to beat despite being in the West. In the East the Bulls are predictably #1, but they're only 4 wins ahead of Milwaukee in 7th. Also a nice 21 losing streak for Boston.

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We have a few trades. Let's start with a big one.

@Salt Bailly has moved from Denver to Detroit. Quite an upgrade, judging by the standings.
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@Dr. Dwayne's Pacers don't seem to be too bothered about things like winning. At least not winning now.
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@weetee & @oneniltothearsenal - seems like a quite even trade.
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@Stobzilla & @Samid - I don't know what the hell this is about. I think this is a case of two teams going "I think you will be worse than me".
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weetee said:
Would be a different game with this simulator. Say we have 10 players from redcafe: could we take the i.e. 1996 campaign as a basis and each player could form their own squad, say everybody has 350 (dunno, number pulled off my ass) skill points (overall points, not potential) to spend and PM you/gamegod their selected roster. Then those 10 teams (would be edited NBA franchises) play that ai-simulated campaign - downside is there would be lots of cloned Jordans and what not but maybe that's still fun or - that's what I thought about at first - a kind of drafting system, bit like the fantasy football one here, where we'd pick players one after each other. but maybe that's too much micro managing.

No idea if that'd be fun. It would be over much quicker too.
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Yes I think that would be possible. We could start in 1996, but it's also possible to start a "Legends" mode, where each team has their historically best players on it. Then I could just God Mode you guys into the league, and maybe find some way of doing the draft. Alternatively, there's a "Fantasy Draft" option you can do with God Mode, where all players get into a draft.

There are possibilities here. We'll see if I run one at some point after this one is done.
 
A GM-style fantasy draft with all-time players would be like a simulated forum draft. We did an NBA one years ago.
 
altodevil said:
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/the-third-basketball-fantasy-draft.430333/
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It's heartening to see Skizzo adhering to the tradition of "reserve the second post even if you definitely won't use it".

That's interesting though. We could surely do something like that, though it would probably be take a while if we had as many sign-ups as for this (though this is less involved, so maybe some just wouldn't be bothered). There would also be a question of how to display the options, since a) not everyone knows every basketball player in history and b) whatever rating the game assigns a player might not be what you would have given them. I guess I could feasibly just take screenshots of the top x players (40-ish at a time maybe?), sorted by overall rating.

It's an interesting thought, maybe we'll try it after this is done. That might not be anytime soon, though.
 
nimic said:
It's heartening to see Skizzo adhering to the tradition of "reserve the second post even if you definitely won't use it".

That's interesting though. We could surely do something like that, though it would probably be take a while if we had as many sign-ups as for this (though this is less involved, so maybe some just wouldn't be bothered). There would also be a question of how to display the options, since a) not everyone knows every basketball player in history and b) whatever rating the game assigns a player might not be what you would have given them. I guess I could feasibly just take screenshots of the top x players (40-ish at a time maybe?), sorted by overall rating.

It's an interesting thought, maybe we'll try it after this is done. That might not be anytime soon, though.
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:lol:
 
Checked out the caf NBA thread (for the first time) and surprised that really none of those NBA heads plays on here. Also have to admit that I just caught up a bit with the contemporary game. That Wemby guy...height: 100. :lol:
 
nimic said:
It's heartening to see Skizzo adhering to the tradition of "reserve the second post even if you definitely won't use it".

That's interesting though. We could surely do something like that, though it would probably be take a while if we had as many sign-ups as for this (though this is less involved, so maybe some just wouldn't be bothered). There would also be a question of how to display the options, since a) not everyone knows every basketball player in history and b) whatever rating the game assigns a player might not be what you would have given them. I guess I could feasibly just take screenshots of the top x players (40-ish at a time maybe?), sorted by overall rating.

It's an interesting thought, maybe we'll try it after this is done. That might not be anytime soon, though.
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I still have plans to go back and use it for a grand reveal.
 
Oof. Think this is the first time I won’t make the playoffs.
 
Solius' lamentations gave me a stat idea, so here we go.

(These don't take into account trades, so they won't be completely accurate - though they do only take into account the minutes players played for that team, not the team they were traded from)

Total average minutes by players with 49 or lower overall rating - i. e. very bad players
  1. --- 132 Orlando Magic @Solius @reelworld
  2. --- 93 Los Angeles Clippers
  3. --- 87 Milwaukee Bucks @Dan
  4. --- 80 Boston Celtics
  5. --- 77 Atlanta Hawks @weetee
  6. --- 70 Indiana Pacers @Dr. Dwayne
  7. --- 67 Golden State Warriors
  8. --- 62 Phoenix Suns
  9. --- 59 Sacramento Kings
  10. --- 53 New York Knicks @BenitoSTARR @sebsheep
  11. --- 52 New Jersey Nets @V.O.
  12. --- 50 Miami Heat @oneniltothearsenal
  13. --- 41 Cleveland Cavaliers @Samid
  14. --- 39 Washington Wizards
  15. --- 34 Utah Jazz & Portland Trailblazers
  16. --- 33 Memphis Grizzlies & Denver Nuggets @P-Nut
  17. --- 26 Seattle Supersonics @Skizzo
  18. --- 25 Charlotte Bobcats @hobbers
  19. --- 23 Minnesota Timberwolves @The Cat
  20. --- 18 Detroit Pistons @Salt Bailly
  21. --- 16 Chicago Bulls
  22. --- 14 Philadelphia 76ers & Los Angeles Lakers @altodevil
  23. --- 12 Toronto Raptors & New Orleans Hornets
  24. --- 9 San Antonio Spurs @Stobzilla
  25. --- 8 Dallas Mavericks
  26. --- 7 Houston Rockets
Total average minutes by players with 60 or higher average rating - i. e. pretty good players
  1. --- 195 Chicago Bulls
  2. --- 194 Washington Wizards
  3. --- 178 Los Angeles Lakers
  4. --- 172 Minnesota Timberwolves
  5. --- 158 Cleveland Cavaliers
  6. --- 147 Philadelphia 76ers
  7. --- 145 Milwaukee Bucks
  8. --- 143 Orlando Magic
  9. --- 132 Indiana Pacers
  10. --- 130 New Jersey Nets
  11. --- 120 Detroit Pistons
  12. --- 115 Dallas Mavericks
  13. --- 109 Atlanta Hawks
  14. --- 106 Phoenix Suns
  15. --- 97 Utah Jazz
  16. --- 95 Houston Rockets
  17. --- 91 Portland Trailblazers
  18. --- 81 New Orleans Hornets
  19. --- 72 Charlotte Bobcats
  20. --- 71 New York Knicks
  21. --- 70 Memphis Grizzlies & Los Angeles Clippers
  22. --- 66 Miami Heat
  23. --- 64 Boston Celtics
  24. --- 63 Sacramento Kings
  25. --- 62 Denver Nuggets
  26. --- 58 Toronto Raptors & Seattle Supersonics
  27. --- 38 Golden State Warriors
  28. --- 0 San Antonio Spurs
Total average minutes by players with 70 or higher average rating - i. e. superstars (basically do you have one, two or no superstars)
  1. --- 74 Atlanta Hawks
  2. --- 69 Washington Wizards
  3. --- 68 Los Angeles Lakers
  4. --- 66 Chicago Bulls
  5. --- 41 Charlotte Bobcats
  6. --- 40 Milwaukee Bucks & Memphis Grizzlies
  7. --- 39 New Jersey Nets
  8. --- 38 New York Knicks & Los Angeles Clippers & Golden State Warriors
  9. --- 37 Miami Heat
  10. --- 32 Orlando Magic
  11. --- 0 The rest
NIMIC (Nimic Invented Metric Indicator Coefficient) - the first one subtracted from the second one. Let's see if it means anything.
  1. --- 179 Chicago Bulls
  2. --- 164 Los Angeles Lakers
  3. --- 155 Washington Wizards
  4. --- 139 Minnesota Timberwolves
  5. --- 133 Philadelphia 76ers
  6. --- 117 Cleveland Cavaliers
  7. --- 107 Dallas Mavericks
  8. --- 102 Detroit Pistons
  9. --- 88 Houston Rockets
  10. --- 78 New Jersey Nets
  11. --- 69 New Orleans Hornets
  12. --- 63 Utah Jazz
  13. --- 62 Indiana Pacers
  14. --- 58 Milwaukee Bucks
  15. --- 57 Portland Trailblazers
  16. --- 47 Charlotte Bobcats
  17. --- 46 Toronto Raptors
  18. --- 44 Phoenix Suns
  19. --- 37 Memphis Grizzlies
  20. --- 32 Atlanta Hawks & Seattle Supersonics
  21. --- 29 Denver Nuggets
  22. --- 18 New York Knicks
  23. --- 14 Miami Heat
  24. --- 11 Orlando Magic
  25. --- 4 Sacramento Kings
  26. --- -9 San Antonio Spurs
  27. --- -16 Boston Celtics
  28. --- -23 Los Angeles Clippers
  29. --- -29 Golden State Warriors
 
nimic said:
Solius' lamentations gave me a stat idea, so here we go.

(These don't take into account trades, so they won't be completely accurate - though they do only take into account the minutes players played for that team, not the team they were traded from)

Total average minutes by players with 49 or lower overall rating - i. e. very bad players
  1. --- 132 Orlando Magic @Solius @reelworld
  2. --- 93 Los Angeles Clippers
  3. --- 87 Milwaukee Bucks @Dan
  4. --- 80 Boston Celtics
  5. --- 77 Atlanta Hawks @weetee
  6. --- 70 Indiana Pacers @Dr. Dwayne
  7. --- 67 Golden State Warriors
  8. --- 62 Phoenix Suns
  9. --- 59 Sacramento Kings
  10. --- 53 New York Knicks @BenitoSTARR @sebsheep
  11. --- 52 New Jersey Nets @V.O.
  12. --- 50 Miami Heat @oneniltothearsenal
  13. --- 41 Cleveland Cavaliers @Samid
  14. --- 39 Washington Wizards
  15. --- 34 Utah Jazz & Portland Trailblazers
  16. --- 33 Memphis Grizzlies & Denver Nuggets @P-Nut
  17. --- 26 Seattle Supersonics @Skizzo
  18. --- 25 Charlotte Bobcats @hobbers
  19. --- 23 Minnesota Timberwolves @The Cat
  20. --- 18 Detroit Pistons @Salt Bailly
  21. --- 16 Chicago Bulls
  22. --- 14 Philadelphia 76ers & Los Angeles Lakers @altodevil
  23. --- 12 Toronto Raptors & New Orleans Hornets
  24. --- 9 San Antonio Spurs @Stobzilla
  25. --- 8 Dallas Mavericks
  26. --- 7 Houston Rockets
Total average minutes by players with 60 or higher average rating - i. e. pretty good players
  1. --- 195 Chicago Bulls
  2. --- 194 Washington Wizards
  3. --- 178 Los Angeles Lakers
  4. --- 172 Minnesota Timberwolves
  5. --- 158 Cleveland Cavaliers
  6. --- 147 Philadelphia 76ers
  7. --- 145 Milwaukee Bucks
  8. --- 143 Orlando Magic
  9. --- 132 Indiana Pacers
  10. --- 130 New Jersey Nets
  11. --- 120 Detroit Pistons
  12. --- 115 Dallas Mavericks
  13. --- 109 Atlanta Hawks
  14. --- 106 Phoenix Suns
  15. --- 97 Utah Jazz
  16. --- 95 Houston Rockets
  17. --- 91 Portland Trailblazers
  18. --- 81 New Orleans Hornets
  19. --- 72 Charlotte Bobcats
  20. --- 71 New York Knicks
  21. --- 70 Memphis Grizzlies & Los Angeles Clippers
  22. --- 66 Miami Heat
  23. --- 64 Boston Celtics
  24. --- 63 Sacramento Kings
  25. --- 62 Denver Nuggets
  26. --- 58 Toronto Raptors & Seattle Supersonics
  27. --- 38 Golden State Warriors
  28. --- 0 San Antonio Spurs
Total average minutes by players with 70 or higher average rating - i. e. superstars (basically do you have one, two or no superstars)
  1. --- 74 Atlanta Hawks
  2. --- 69 Washington Wizards
  3. --- 68 Los Angeles Lakers
  4. --- 66 Chicago Bulls
  5. --- 41 Charlotte Bobcats
  6. --- 40 Milwaukee Bucks & Memphis Grizzlies
  7. --- 39 New Jersey Nets
  8. --- 38 New York Knicks & Los Angeles Clippers & Golden State Warriors
  9. --- 37 Miami Heat
  10. --- 32 Orlando Magic
  11. --- 0 The rest
NIMIC (Nimic Invented Metric Indicator Coefficient) - the first one subtracted from the second one. Let's see if it means anything.
  1. --- 179 Chicago Bulls
  2. --- 164 Los Angeles Lakers
  3. --- 155 Washington Wizards
  4. --- 139 Minnesota Timberwolves
  5. --- 133 Philadelphia 76ers
  6. --- 117 Cleveland Cavaliers
  7. --- 107 Dallas Mavericks
  8. --- 102 Detroit Pistons
  9. --- 88 Houston Rockets
  10. --- 78 New Jersey Nets
  11. --- 69 New Orleans Hornets
  12. --- 63 Utah Jazz
  13. --- 62 Indiana Pacers
  14. --- 58 Milwaukee Bucks
  15. --- 57 Portland Trailblazers
  16. --- 47 Charlotte Bobcats
  17. --- 46 Toronto Raptors
  18. --- 44 Phoenix Suns
  19. --- 37 Memphis Grizzlies
  20. --- 32 Atlanta Hawks & Seattle Supersonics
  21. --- 29 Denver Nuggets
  22. --- 18 New York Knicks
  23. --- 14 Miami Heat
  24. --- 11 Orlando Magic
  25. --- 4 Sacramento Kings
  26. --- -9 San Antonio Spurs
  27. --- -16 Boston Celtics
  28. --- -23 Los Angeles Clippers
  29. --- -29 Golden State Warriors
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So does this confirm Alto is just shit?
 
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