The Premier League par scores (aka the Peterstorey table)

EvilChuck

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An old favourite of mine, stemmed from a lot of discussion recently with friends about who is doing best so far this season and how United havent played anyone of note yet, so the position of joint top is actually above our stations.

The rules are simple, to win the title you are expected to win all of your home games, and win away against the bottom 12 from last season (the 3 relegated clubs are replaced by the promoted 3 teams) for a 93 point total (which is the par score we work towards)

A home win is 0 points
A home draw is -2 points
A home loss is -3 points

An away win against the top 8 is +3 points
An away draw against the top 8 is +1 point
An away loss against the top 8 is 0 points

An away win against the bottom 12 is 0 points
An away draw against the bottom 12 is -2 points
An away loss against the bottom 12 is -3 points

Last season's top 8 were Chelsea, Spurs, City, Liverpool, Arsenal, United, Everton and Southampton.

After 7 rounds of the league, the top 6 from last season currently sit as

Man City +1
Man Utd +1
Spurs -4
Chelsea -5
Arsenal -2
Liverpool -6

So despite our apparent easier run of fixtures, even on this we are level with City. Arsenal arent as bad as they seem, whereas Spurs, Chelsea and Liverpool should all be doing much better than they are
 
To be fair to Chelsea the Burnley game was kind of a freak result. Liverpool are shite.
 
Liverpool -2 for a home draw
United +1 for a draw away to a top 8 side
Chelsea -3 for losing to a bottom 12 side
Spurs and City get 0 for home wins
Arsenal -3 for losing to a bottom 12 side

So now the standings are
United +2
City +1
Spurs -4
Arsenal -5
Chelsea -8
Liverpool -8
 
Surely an away loss to top 8 has to be minus points

I also think you're probably best doing it on the table as each game week stands as last seasons form has no correlation to this seasons
 
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Surely an away loss to top 8 has to be minus points
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No, because in this formula the top 8 are expected to win all of their home games regardless who they play. As long as you win the aways against the bottom 12 the results against the top 8 dont matter too much
 
EvilChuck said:
No, because in this formula the top 8 are expected to win all of their home games regardless who they play. As long as you win the aways against the bottom 12 the results against the top 8 dont matter too much
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Fair enough but I think you would be better doing the table week by week as it stands as the form is current
 
I think it‘d be a great idea to award teams 3 points for a win and 1 point for a draw. No matter home or away or who the opposition is. Then add up the points after every matchday.

The table might have a good chance of reflecting every teams strength in relation to each other at that moment in time.
 
Excelent!! I do almost the same thing. I've been thinking about posting it here but since I am a newbie I thought I'd be rejected hahaha.
I took the main position of every team on the last 3 years and I got top 5 (city, arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea and Us) and 6 to 10 (liverpool, Soton, Everton, Leicester and West Ham)

Then I took 0 points for a home win
0 points expected against a top 5 away
A draw expected against a 6-10 away
And a win expected against a 11-20 away.
That gives me a par of 92 if I'm not wrong.

So, so far, we lost 2 points by drawing to stoke, but recovered them away against Soton.

And today's result is par, so we are fine.

In my table city are leaders with a +1 and then we come with 0. But I'm at work so I haven't added today's matches.
 
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@Nicolarra90

if you go to 2 1/2 points par for winning an 'easy' home game - dropping the projected par by 9 and 1/2 points to 80 odd I think it's pretty close to about as useful as this will ever get

teams don't win all their home games or if they do have a run of 4, 5 or 6 wins, I think they are gaining ground slightly, even relatively speaking across easier games - 3pts is 3pts at the end of the day
 
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Why top 8? Top 6 should be the benchmark. No team should be on a par after a loss to Everton or Southampton away.
 
Has anyone actually verified if this table is any useful or is it pseudo intellectual nonsense?
 
It’s flaw is that it groups Chelsea away with Saints away, but it’s a decent view in round handfuls. The top 8 should probably be the top 4 though, with a draw par for 5-11. Final par as 91. There’s no way to break it up without flaws though.
 
Its not a perfect system by any means (and when Peterstorey first posted it here years ago he got mocked for it). But it just gives an idea of how everyone is doing in relation to their fixture list early on in the season
 
This hurts my head, I'm still getting to grips with buying my pear drops in grams.
 
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