The Mads Timm Appreciation Thread

Neil Thomson

New Member
Newbie
Joined
Aug 21, 2001
Messages
13,228
Location
Hippydom
https://picsrv.altdc3.va.twimm.net/fif=/Man Utd/img_10_630.fpx&obj=iip,1.0&wid=135&hei=135&rgn=0.0669,0.0567,0.8876,0.7813&cvt=jpeg

A lot of you might not have seen Mads Timm, or read about him, so I've compiled together everything that we've written about him so far this season, and a few extra bits, it is a bit haphazard, but you'll get the picture. <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" />

Mads Timm, registered for the CL, with shirt number 43.

D.O.B.: 31/10/84 - Soon to be 18
Nationality: Denmark
City of Birth: Odense, Denmark
Team: Manchester United Under-17s - now moved up to U-19's and Reserves
Position: Forward

Arriving at United in July 2001, Mads is an attacking player, capable of playing in midfield or as a striker.

He has represented his country at youth level.

A Denmark-born forward who was handed a squad number by Manchester United for the 2002/03 season - aged just 17.

Mads signed for the Old Trafford club in the summer of 2001. He had been impressive during a youth tournament in Portugal, and United swooped to beat a host of other clubs to his signature at the tender age of 16.

United got the player for free as Danish clubs cannot sign young stars until they are 16! He had been with local club Odense.

The Danish Youth international can also play as a midfielder.

A clause in the player's contract allows him to leave in the summer of 2003 if he fails to settle.


Biggest prospects right now are Richardson, Fletcher, Timms.

If anything their enthusiasm and hunger gives them a 10% advantage over the likes of Giggs. Richardson's and Timm's desire to run at players and attack them.

I really want to know how Madds Timm is ..

Watched a bit of the U19's 2-0 win against Reading this morning and Madds Timm looked very good, very involved in the play. Colin Heath got the goals. Fox looked good too. Edward Johnson was very strong for his age.
The U17's hammered Reading something like 5-1, it was a short clip only though, not enough time to get an impression of the players really.

Leeds v United in the U19's. Timm looks excellent on the ball. First scored by David Poole, set up by nice running from Timm. Poole's first goal of the season, well slotted past the keeper in a one on one. Timm is already fast and powerful enough for first team football imo. Timm has great shot on goal, but the keeper makes a good save. HT 1-1

Second half. Heath on for Timm - I think Timm should be in the reserves, he'll be ready for a bit of first team action this year or next. Final score 1-2 to Leeds. Could have gone either way, great game of football from some very talented kids on both sides.

Timm is a real talent, and could well be the player we need, he's strong, likes to run on the ball, plays intelligent passes, and is physically big enough to play already.

Well, its good to hear that Timm has recovered well from his injury.

The U-19's got stuffed by Newcastle at the weekend. Timms, Heath and Johnson the scorers.

Anybody think Mads Timm should be able to play 1st team soccer soon ? ... I have read a lot of good stuff abt him ... Choccy said that he's already have the physical for reserve game so I believe he's not a tiny player ... I have seen his picture a few times but can't really tell how well-built he's now ... but I like his Silver-Haired a lot ... and he has that "looks" soccer star look ... with a lot of hunger in his eyes.

He's got the build definitely, and is the brightest looking prospect we have at the moment imo. I hope he moves up to the reserve team soon.

Watched the U19 abject performance against Newcastle again, which we lost 7-3, and McClair was right when he said afterwards that football might not be the best career for some of them, and for the defence and keeper Jowsey, its certainly not. And no one breaking up the attacks either. Mads Timm is really the only player in that team that might make it, he scored two and created the other, as well as other chances. Perhaps they don't want to move him up to the reserves because it would feck up the U19 team even more.

I see Mads Timm got a hat trick against blackburn in our 4-0 win in the U19's. McClair though is taking the third from him since it hit the keeper on the way in! Look forward to seeing the full highlights. What a season Timm is having - very well taken goals.

Brian McClair's Under-19 side won their second Academy league match of the season on Saturday, at home to Blackburn Rovers.
The kids had lost their previous four matches, but broke that spell at the weekend with a 4-0 win over Blackburn. Mads Timm scored a hat-trick at Carrington, with Colin Heath scoring the fourth with ten minutes left to play.

And Mads Timm ... what can I say ... We will HAVE TO give this guy a chance ... I think he's magnificent !!! ... he will be a good, very good player no doubt ... His ability has spoken for himself ... With Timm success story in the youth and then 1st team ( hopefully soon ) ... we should be able to attract more Scandanivian talents to our youth rank ... to overcome the current limitation of searching for youngsters within a small area ...

Do you agree with me that Mads Timm is going to be a sensation? He reminds me a little of Ronaldinho, great on the ball running past defenders, quality finisher, very intelligent and creative - a real gem of a player - Scholes' successor imo.

And I agree that Mads Timm is doing excellently at the present level. A bit like Wayne grady was for Everton reserves last season and they are both 16!

I agree on Mads Timm. He looks a great prospect. He also played against Olympiakos and showed some great skill.

He has a good range of skills, pace, a good build and an eye for goal. His problem from my eyes is that sometimes he tries to do too much by himself. He is still in the U-17's, so he still has plenty of time to develop - especially under Filho (or whatever the Brazilian coaches name is!).

Both Mads and Richardson should be the pillar of senior team in the future ...

The U-19s are weak this season though IMO. The defence is poor. richardson is not playing many games as he is in the reserves, Fletcher has missed his normal amount of games, and Madds Timm was injured for a while.

Is there anyone else coming through who can put himself about a bit ? Does Fletcher fall into this category ?

Not Fletcher, but Jimmy Davis and Mads Timm are big enough to handle themselves. Nardiello isn't small, nor is Muirhead I suppose. Mads Timm is the only dribbler we have though who is big enough, Richardson is tiny. A lot of these players are very young, and like Alex said, O'Shea got bigger over the summer, and he's 21 I think.

Fantastic news that Timm has made the reserves bench! I hope he comes on!

Mads Timm is coming on for Chadwick!

Mads Timm showing his ability with a lovely dribble past a couple of defenders, laying it off when he needed to and getting in a good position afterwards. Just showing a little flash of what he can do. I'm so glad he's playing in the reserves again, didn't really know he had previously, to Bradford 2 seasons ago! He's only 17! But he missed most of last season with an injury. You wouldn't know it. He's strong and fast, totally comfortable on the ball, an eye for goal with an accurate shot, great control and technique - I really think he's going to be the star of the future United side.

fecking hell! Mads Timm just did a run that compares with Giggs's run for THAT goal! Awesome talent. I lost count of the number of players he went past before he fashioned an opening and got off a shot, which unfortunately was off target. I haven't seen a run like that for a long time! He's normally a better finisher than that too, prolific in the U17's.

Another clean sheet for Ricardo, another Forlan goal and a brace for Nardiello, and an awesome substitute return by Mads Timm, and debut for Eddie Johnson.

Is Timm really that good? From what you say he sounds fantastic.

I've seen the future, and the future is Mads.

<img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" /> :cool: <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" /> :cool: <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" />

Thanks to the various posters who've contributed and whose comments I've pasted into this. :)
 
Neil - Good review, but are you:

1) In fact Madds Timm
2) Madds Timm's father/brother/other relation
3) A sexual deviant who likes young blonde Danish Boys.

;)
 
I was just trying to think of a player he reminds me of, and the closest I can come to is Joaquin (sp!) of Real Betis.
 
I'm just sooo looking forward to seeing him in the first team! If he can avoid more serious injuries, he's going to be world class. He's Ryan Giggs, Scholes and Ronaldinho all rolled into one!
 
Originally posted by Neil Thomson:
<strong>I'm just sooo looking forward to seeing him in the first team! If he can avoid more serious injuries, he's going to be world class. He's Ryan Giggs, Scholes and Ronaldinho all rolled into one!</strong><hr></blockquote>

Good to see you so enthusiastic. But let's say Timm is ready to come into the first team as well as Richardson, Nardiello and Webber, where does that leave Diego. Looked at another way, if Fergie persists with Forlan is there a chance that some of the youngsters who may now be ready for the first team, albeit via the bench, may well find their paths blocked ? Let's hope they get their chances sooner rather than later.
Click to expand...
 
Originally posted by Julian Denny:
<strong>

Good to see you so enthusiastic. But let's say Timm is ready to come into the first team as well as Richardson, Nardiello and Webber, where does that leave Diego. Looked at another way, if Fergie persists with Forlan is there a chance that some of the youngsters who may now be ready for the first team, albeit via the bench, may well find their paths blocked ? Let's hope they get their chances sooner rather than later.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Nardiello won't make the first team. He struggles against decent defenders.
Click to expand...
 
Originally posted by Julian Denny:
<strong>

Good to see you so enthusiastic. But let's say Timm is ready to come into the first team as well as Richardson, Nardiello and Webber, where does that leave Diego. Looked at another way, if Fergie persists with Forlan is there a chance that some of the youngsters who may now be ready for the first team, albeit via the bench, may well find their paths blocked ? Let's hope they get their chances sooner rather than later.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Mad Timm would play behind a front two, or in the link role that Scholes plays. Nardiello and Webber won't ever be first choice strikers. Forlan with Ruud might be the combination, though its suspected that another world class forward is going to be bought, with Forlan being a backup. More interesting is the midfield, where I don't see a future for Veron as Richardson and Timm and Fletcher would all be fighting for that spot, though Richardson may well replace Giggs on the left. Timm is Scholes' heir apparent in my eyes.
Click to expand...
 
Originally posted by Neil Thomson:
<strong>
Mad Timm would play behind a front two, or in the link role that Scholes plays. Nardiello and Webber won't ever be first choice strikers. Forlan with Ruud might be the combination, though its suspected that another world class forward is going to be bought, with Forlan being a backup. More interesting is the midfield, where I don't see a future for Veron as Richardson and Timm and Fletcher would all be fighting for that spot, though Richardson may well replace Giggs on the left. Timm is Scholes' heir apparent in my eyes.</strong><hr></blockquote>

He must be some player then. But Scholes is only 27, and assuming he doesn't leave for whatever reason, he must have another 7 odd seasons left. That's a long time for Timm to wait. The same for the others as you would expect Stewart to take up any midfield vacancy although if Veron left you would expect Becks to move inside with someone to take up on the right (Chadwick?) or, as many have suggested, Forlan. It seems it's going to be very difficult for any of these youngsters to establish themselves unless they are very exceptional. I note you are virtually writing off Nardiello and Webber although the latter must be given an opportunity surely ?
Click to expand...
 
Originally posted by Julian Denny:
<strong>

He must be some player then. But Scholes is only 27, and assuming he doesn't leave for whatever reason, he must have another 7 odd seasons left. That's a long time for Timm to wait. The same for the others as you would expect Stewart to take up any midfield vacancy although if Veron left you would expect Becks to move inside with someone to take up on the right (Chadwick?) or, as many have suggested, Forlan. It seems it's going to be very difficult for any of these youngsters to establish themselves unless they are very exceptional. I note you are virtually writing off Nardiello and Webber although the latter must be given an opportunity surely ?</strong><hr></blockquote>

We need to bring young players though in the next 2 seasons. Giggs is 29, Butt, Scholes, Beckham, G Neville 27. Keane is 31. Soljsjear is 30. In three years time all these players will be 30 years old or over. We don't want a repeat of the Busby generation.


While we have defenders such as Rio and O'Shea, Silvestre and Brown who are young, the youngest regular in the midfield is Veron. There is nobody in mifield under 25.

In attack Forlan is young, but still has to find himself. If Cole and Yorke are anything to go by Ole probably only has a couple more years at OT.
Click to expand...
 
From an economic perspective, and desire and performance perspective, we shouldn't let the entire class of '92 play at OT until they retire. Realistically we should get the best out of them, make as much money as we can when we've done so and before their value drops too much, and replace with youngsters from within or the best abroad, like Escude or Ronaldinho.
 
Originally posted by Neil Thomson:
<strong>From an economic perspective, and desire and performance perspective, we shouldn't let the entire class of '92 play at OT until they retire. Realistically we should get the best out of them, make as much money as we can when we've done so and before their value drops too much, and replace with youngsters from within or the best abroad, like Escude or Ronaldinho.</strong><hr></blockquote>


Yes - and it's not just about money - one of the things that kept Liverpool great for so long was their willingness to cut long term players when their game slipped a notch. Think of Emlyn Hughes playing out his days at wolves or Clemence at Spurs. It's hard to think this way about today's heroes - but in 2 or 3 years some tough decisions will neeed to be made.
Click to expand...
 
Originally posted by Neil Thomson:
<strong>From an economic perspective, and desire and performance perspective, we shouldn't let the entire class of '92 play at OT until they retire. Realistically we should get the best out of them, make as much money as we can when we've done so and before their value drops too much, and replace with youngsters from within or the best abroad, like Escude or Ronaldinho.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yes in theory you don't want your side to grow old together. At the moment this current team should be reaching it's peak within the next season or two, although Keane and Ole are a bit older and have already reached that stage. You want to bring your youngsters into a winning team gradually as and when the incumbents drop off in form etc. The exceptional ones must be given their chance not only to keep them at the club, to maintain their ambition but also to keep the current squad on their toes. Its the United tradition to give youth a go, started by Busby, carried on by Docherty in the 70's for a limited period and gloriously revitalised under SAF. Having been given the chance a youngster has to show he's better than the one whose place he has taken and that's not easy. I hope one or two including Timm can make it but recent history shows that very few do - unfortunately.
Click to expand...
 
Neil - have you got his height & weight (feet / inches & stones / pounds, please).

I picked up somewhere that physically he is stronger than the average for his age - nothing else to go off other than your head and shoulders photo !

Cheers :)
 
Originally posted by Neil Thomson:
<strong>Sorry mate, I haven't, and nor do I know the size of his dick either. Poof. ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

It's 2.75 cms - in common with most Scandanavian males. But don't tell Liz...

Now go away and do your research properly for a change.

(He's 5' 9" and 12 stone 10 lbs)

;)
Click to expand...
 
Never seem him play but have read loads of reviews about him and one thing come out in all of them. He has the potential to be a class act for the club.

I think there os a real danger of getting carried away before he has made the breakthrough. Maybe he'll get a run in the Worthington Cup and we can see him against good opposition. If he performs well in the reserves over the next few months, maybe our hunt for a striker is not as desperate as we thought but we will have to wait and see.
 
Originally posted by Neil Thomson:
<strong>I'm just sooo looking forward to seeing him in the first team! If he can avoid more serious injuries, he's going to be world class. He's Ryan Giggs, Scholes and Ronaldinho all rolled into one!</strong><hr></blockquote>

:eek: Thats quite a claim Neil. He could turn in to one of those 'promising youngsters' who end up leaving the club and are never heard from again aka Healy, Notman etc. ;)
Click to expand...
 
Originally posted by Julian Denny:
<strong>

Good to see you so enthusiastic. But let's say Timm is ready to come into the first team as well as Richardson, Nardiello and Webber, where does that leave Diego. Looked at another way, if Fergie persists with Forlan is there a chance that some of the youngsters who may now be ready for the first team, albeit via the bench, may well find their paths blocked ? Let's hope they get their chances sooner rather than later.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Webbers on loan, Richardson was on the bench today, Nardiello doesnt sound that great and Timm has been pushed in to the reserves quite early, sounds like they're all getting decent chances to prove themselves in the correct manner. :rolleyes:
Click to expand...
 
Originally posted by Gazza:
<strong>

:eek: Thats quite a claim Neil. He could turn in to one of those 'promising youngsters' who end up leaving the club and are never heard from again aka Healy, Notman etc. ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>
If Timm doesn't make it big, we should shut down the academy. Only injury will stop this kid, and I really hope he gets better luck with it.
Click to expand...
 
Thank you very much for your good complilation thread, Neil. Hope I can watch Mads, and Richardson also, play for our first team asap.
 
Originally posted by Neil Thomson:
<strong>Penny, have you been able to watch him out there?</strong><hr></blockquote>

No mate ... absolutely no chance yet ... but I REALLY REALLY like to ... I haven't even got chance to see him kick a ball yet gosh ..!! ..

If there's any video clip around than I am very interested ... They did show some MUTV footie here sometimes back but not anymore ...

Richardson I first watched him on the Boca game ... that's the ONE and ONLY ONE time !!
<img src="graemlins/annoyed.gif" border="0" alt="[Annoyed]" />

I can't wait ... I want this two kid to come out !! .
Click to expand...
 
Originally posted by Gazza:
<strong>

:eek: Thats quite a claim Neil. He could turn in to one of those 'promising youngsters' who end up leaving the club and are never heard from again aka Healy, Notman etc. ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

Personaly I thnk both Healy and Notman has a common situation and problem with them previously:
(1) they weren't around at the best timing ... We have 4 established strikers all these years ... plus Fergie has Ruud in the pipe-line 2 years back so both the kid has never really got a chance to show what they are capable of ..
(2) Both kid are small aren't there ? ... I remember Notman being the smallest in the team then ... and Healy is not that big either ... That's why for this thread we have been discussing a lot abt the "physical" part ... cos I think many of us agree that without being there with the right physical build - it's really very diffucult to make it to the top flight ... Unless one has a superb acceleration/speed ... which I doubt both Healy and Notman posses ...

Timm is already big enough ... With skillful dribbling Giggs-alike ... I think he really has the advantage there ... Richardson on the other hand, ... should start eating 2 tons of red-meat daily :rolleyes:
Click to expand...
 
Healy was at the club in the winter of 2000 and we had all our strikers bar Ole out, and it was the perfect time to give Healy a chance, but he wasnt given it, and promptly sold to Preston, this says to me he simply wasnt good enough.
 
Do you think it was a mistake not to give Healy a chance? I don`t know - I am unable to watch the Reserves from Ozland and where I am now. How about Notman and Macken - should we have kept them? And what about Jonno Greening - he made a few first team appearances but I could not gauge how good or otherwise he was,

Can somebody enlighten me?
 
Originally posted by giggsgirl:
<strong>Do you think it was a mistake not to give Healy a chance? I don`t know - I am unable to watch the Reserves from Ozland and where I am now. How about Notman and Macken - should we have kept them? And what about Jonno Greening - he made a few first team appearances but I could not gauge how good or otherwise he was,

Can somebody enlighten me?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Greening was never good enough full stop. A decent squad player but that wasnt enough for him and he left and is hardly making headlines at Boro is he? Healy was something else. He had potential and many of us on here were expecting him to make the grade and get a few games, but he was sold to Preston out of the blue and I felt a bit disappointed really. It seemed like we had stopped giving youth a chance, but you have to say it was a good peice of work to let Healy, Greening, Wilson and Notman for about 5m, because they obviously havent proved they are United quality. Macken signed for City for 5m after a few good seasons at PNE but has been injured all season. Looks a good buy.
Click to expand...
 
Originally posted by giggsgirl:
[QB]Do you think it was a mistake not to give Healy a chance? IQB]<hr></blockquote>

I was very disappointed when Fergie let Healy go. By that time he was scoring regularly in internationals for NI and was just starting to make an impression in our first team. I remember a rather spectacular header crashing against the post in one of very his few appearances. I wonder if things would have turned out differently had that gone in. Then again what has he done with Preston since joining them ?
Any kid wanting to make it at United will have to be exceptional. Let's hope Timm, Richardson & Fletcher fall into that category as the others seem to be not quite up to scratch unfortunately.
Click to expand...
 
You must log in or register to reply here.