Let the next five years commence.
What does he do when Brexit is actually horrendous for the country?
what is the plan then?
Premiership?
The IEA.I get the impression Johnson is generally feckless and lazy. So who is going to drive this government?
Already happening and no they don't want to make it all private where we pay each month. They want to keep it government funded and to take as many private contracts out of it. That's where the real money is.NHS privatization incoming?
I get the impression Johnson is generally feckless and lazy. So who is going to drive this government?
You kid yourself. We are here because Tories couldn't agree on a Brexit policy. Yet Labour carried the can.If people ever realise that the “benefits” of Brexit are about as real as unicorns, then they may turn on him but he’ll have done enough damage to last a generation. I fear for the future of the NHS & any deal with the US will most likely be in favour of them.
The one thing I’ll be interested in seeing is (Brexit aside) if he continues to pander to the right/ERG now he has a large majority.
Ahh the famous ‘pivot’ argument.Reaching for a silver lining here...
Maybe the fact that Johnson is such a journeyman politician with no real political goals besides power and acclaim might result in him actually moving the tories centrally towards a more socially responsible economic policy in recognition of how this will make him a more popular leader.
Maybe.
I don't expect him to adhere to it per se. He might consider social responsibility to be the most politically expedient position.Ahh the famous ‘pivot’ argument.
The man is a sociopathic charlatan, he’s likely to be as adherent to the principles of social responsibility as he is to his own kids.
Fairly good result for the country as a whole.
Pros:
- The country will finally be able to move in a direction again after nearly 10 years of limp coalitions.
- The end of Corbyn, McDonnell and hopefully the end of the extreme left elements running things in Labour.
- with such a large majority Boris will be able to move away from the far right elements in his own party.
Cons:
- Brexit is a certainty now.
Reaching for a silver lining here...
Maybe the fact that Johnson is such a journeyman politician with no real political goals besides power and acclaim might result in him actually moving the tories centrally towards a more socially responsible economic policy in recognition of how this will make him a more popular leader.
Maybe.
No sarcasm warning?All positive for me, especially as I think Gove and Cummings will be driving the legislative agenda.
Reaching for a silver lining here...
Maybe the fact that Johnson is such a journeyman politician with no real political goals besides power and acclaim might result in him actually moving the tories centrally towards a more socially responsible economic policy in recognition of how this will make him a more popular leader.
Maybe.
Ah I’ve seen they’ve learned well from the US Department of Defense.Already happening and no they don't want to make it all private where we pay each month. They want to keep it government funded and to take as many private contracts out of it. That's where the real money is.
Whichever way you look at it, one thing for sure is that there are now no excuses. Johnson has a huge majority, he can basically implement whatever agenda and policies he wants. If, in five years time, the country is [still] a mess then there is really absolutely nobody that can be blamed apart from the Tories and Johnson. Whether they change their tack to try to hold on to some of their new northern seats, and how they deal with Scotland, will be key issues I think, otherwise next election could see a massive reversal of fortunes between them and Labour (assuming the latter appoint a popular, electable leader).
It's like when Trump got in and you heard 'he'll pivot'. It's going to be bad.
It's like when Trump got in and you heard 'he'll pivot'. It's going to be bad.
Seems that way to me. He wasn't particularly right wing as London mayor, although he didn't seem to do a right lot either. One poster here described him as Thatcherist, which is ludicrous. We'll know more when he announces the cabinet, if Mogg is Chancellor I'll admit being totally wrong and we can start fearing the worst!I think there‘s more chance of it happening than with Trump. Not a ‘pivot’ as such but him not going balls to the wall with the hard right policies. There are similarities to Trump but also numerous big differences. He’s an internationalist with mixed heritage himself, he has mixed race children and speaks a few languages. He’s much more educated and cultured than Trump. He also always lent towards the more liberal side of the Tory party but there was no way that the ‘One Nation’ brigade like Cameron and Osbourne were ever going to let him lead the party so he took a different path to fulfil his ambition.
I think at the end of the day he’s an arch pragmatist, devoid of ideology beyond his own advancement. He’ll follow the mood music whatever that may be. People talk about the ERG having undue influence but there’s now the Midland and Northern working class constituencies in the party so there will be pressure from them to counterbalance.
Seems that way to me. He wasn't particularly right wing as London mayor, although he didn't seem to do a right lot either. One poster here described him as Thatcherist, which is ludicrous. We'll know more when he announces the cabinet, if Mogg is Chancellor I'll admit being totally wrong and we can start fearing the worst!
Blame Labour, obviously.What does he do when Brexit is actually horrendous for the country?
what is the plan then?