The Disgrace & Keane

Private PeeWee

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We have witnessed alot from Keane lately. It kinda started in the summer with his outburst and departure in the national squad,

And if that wasn't enough, the Keane-Theatre open again when his biography was released.

To top it, he got himself a red card for elbowing a former-team-mate in the nationale squad in the face.

I can't help thinking about Cantona, and what he had us endure.

:eek:

Yes, and what was that he had us endure? Cantona surely was red to the very core of his soul. It showed in his agression, and at times it also got a physical, violent manifestation. He also produced pure magic. Without him Sir Alex Ferguson would still only be Alex Ferguson. I am sure of that. The 90's wouldn't been anywhere close to what we now remember them for. You can count that in silerware AND artistic luxury on the field.

I cannot say there is much similarity in the way these two legends play. But the personalities of them are perhaps not that different. And I am sure that United would have been a little less rich and famous without Roy Keane's leadership and whole-heartedly contributions over the last years.

And what did Roy Keane actually do? Let's look at the incident with Haaland first. He did what many, many, many players do every week in, week out: he took revenge (rightfully so, or not) and did a very dagnerous tackle against an opponent. He then, probably under-lined his revenge with some sort of verbal cursing or the like. Nothing is good with this. He DESERVES a lot of pain and punishment for those acts. AS DO ALOT OF OTHER PLAYERS EVERY WEEK. We see this in a number of games. It is not something we really want. It doesn't have to be like that. It produces a negative, destructive factor in the game. It steals from the quality. It will always be there, and hard tackles isn't bad. But stupidity is stupidity. Nuff said.

What was the really daft move here, was the book. THAT was the bummer. Both the act of writing it (player/writer), and the act of accepting it (club). What he actually did on the field doesn't put the football in disgrace MORE THAN MANY OTHERS DO EVERY WEEK. But writing about it takes it to another level all-together.

What he did in the summer with his national team is another dilemma. But I wouldn't say it is something the club or the club's core-fans have to think about. It is an issue for the national team, and the people supporting that team.

Should he be our captain? Should he be a United player? Well. What can I say? Depends on your politics, really. He isn't the smartes captain we've had. That is very obvious. He can be out-right damn stupid.

But boy, does he pack a punch...
 
Originally posted by Murt:
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here here, one minute Rios a flop, now Keanes a waster,,

fuch off ABU.</strong><hr></blockquote>

<img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" />

You should read more than the heading b4 u scream for blood. If u had READ what I wrote you would have seen I defend Keane alot in the text.

Please. Don't embarass yourself so much. I am sure you have a brain in there, somewhere?

I have earlier believed we have supporters with brains too. Don't make me take that back. Shoo-shoo. Shame on u.

<img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" />
 
Are so many of you so dumb as you seem? What does a newspaper consist of? The headings? What is a book? The cover?

First. You FECK OFF. We have the freedom of speach, so go piss in another backyard. Second. Don't give me the finger for something that I wrote, but u didn't take the time to read.

You give credits to people who claim supporters are retarded. You confirm that.
 
Originally posted by Private PeeWee:
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<img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" />

You should read more than the heading b4 u scream for blood. If u had READ what I wrote you would have seen I defend Keane alot in the text </strong><hr></blockquote>

I havnt read anything you post since you claimed Rio was a flop <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />
 
READ what I wrote. By all means; give your opionion. But don't come here stating I am this or that. And don't say I don't support Keane. Open your blind eyes and pretend they work. At least.
 
Originally posted by Murt:
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I havnt read anything you post since you claimed Rio was a flop <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

Did IQ just drop here? I never CLAIMED anything. I ASKED if Rio was a flop. I asked for your opinions. You do know the difference between a question and a statement? If you don't then look for the "?" sign. Should show the way. Good luck to you on your tour to discover a whole new world of meanings.
 
Originally posted by 2Bullish:
<strong>I thought it was pretty good.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Thanx that you took the time to read it. Then if ONE did that, it was worth it. Again; thanx alot.
 
Originally posted by Murt:
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here here, one minute Rios a flop, now Keanes a waster,,

fuch off ABU.</strong><hr></blockquote>

sorry pee-wee i agree with murt you should feck off ;)


<img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" /> <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" /> <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" /> <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" /> <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" />
 
What the f**k are you on about with Cantona.
He did not kick anyone ,he kicked a racist thug whats wrong with that?
who ran from the back of the stand to have ago at ERIC
why dont you crawl under a stone and rot.
ABU TOSSER
:mad:
 
I haven't read Keane's book, but did read several of the newspaper interviews. Upto 18 months ago, i'd vote Keane as our best player.
My worry is his captaincy. I saw the Man City game, and the first Deportivo OT game last season. Sadly I saw Keane bullying the younger players in the team, when often it was his own shortcomings that lead to unfulfilled passing moves. He had a go something rotten at Wes Brown, Phil N. and OGS.
One incident in the Man C game sticks in the mind, when OGS played a brilliant backheel to the goalline for Keano to run on to. He just screamed at Olly, and even the MC defenders stood still, until everyone realised the ball was still in play. Keano went for it eventually, although too late. Olly walked away shaking his head.
Recently, before the op. I've seen MU players answering Keano back when he comes at them swearing and bawling. Despite their public comments, I'm sure they're tired of playing with a bully as a captain. If he doesn't get the armband back thats why.
Eric used to talk to and encourage the younger players by all accounts. Can you imagine any of the younger players going to Keano for advice. I can't. they'd get a string of expletives.
I'm no psychologist, but Keano's clearly got very under-developed social skills. He can't talk to people. He can't communicate. In some ways he's got the same type of Authoritan Personality as SAF. Thats why he loves him, and makes him captain.
But I think that on the pitch, not all is well when Keano is captain. Have you noticed that the whole team seems happier with him missing ?
I think Keane's captaincy is a hindrance to MU, not an asset. I know that a lot of people can't bear change. But if we are to progress as a club, then we need happy players, playing as a unit. I hope that Roy has a full part to play in our re-invigoration. It'll be interesting reading all the autobiographies in about 5 years time when the current squad can tell us what it was really like.
 
Originally posted by Private PeeWee:
<strong> :o

We have witnessed alot from Keane lately. It kinda started in the summer with his outburst and departure in the national squad,

And if that wasn't enough, the Keane-Theatre open again when his biography was released.

To top it, he got himself a red card for elbowing a former-team-mate in the nationale squad in the face.

I can't help thinking about Cantona, and what he had us endure.

:eek:

Yes, and what was that he had us endure? Cantona surely was red to the very core of his soul. It showed in his agression, and at times it also got a physical, violent manifestation. He also produced pure magic. Without him Sir Alex Ferguson would still only be Alex Ferguson. I am sure of that. The 90's wouldn't been anywhere close to what we now remember them for. You can count that in silerware AND artistic luxury on the field.

I cannot say there is much similarity in the way these two legends play. But the personalities of them are perhaps not that different. And I am sure that United would have been a little less rich and famous without Roy Keane's leadership and whole-heartedly contributions over the last years.

And what did Roy Keane actually do? Let's look at the incident with Haaland first. He did what many, many, many players do every week in, week out: he took revenge (rightfully so, or not) and did a very dagnerous tackle against an opponent. He then, probably under-lined his revenge with some sort of verbal cursing or the like. Nothing is good with this. He DESERVES a lot of pain and punishment for those acts. AS DO ALOT OF OTHER PLAYERS EVERY WEEK. We see this in a number of games. It is not something we really want. It doesn't have to be like that. It produces a negative, destructive factor in the game. It steals from the quality. It will always be there, and hard tackles isn't bad. But stupidity is stupidity. Nuff said.

What was the really daft move here, was the book. THAT was the bummer. Both the act of writing it (player/writer), and the act of accepting it (club). What he actually did on the field doesn't put the football in disgrace MORE THAN MANY OTHERS DO EVERY WEEK. But writing about it takes it to another level all-together.

What he did in the summer with his national team is another dilemma. But I wouldn't say it is something the club or the club's core-fans have to think about. It is an issue for the national team, and the people supporting that team.

Should he be our captain? Should he be a United player? Well. What can I say? Depends on your politics, really. He isn't the smartes captain we've had. That is very obvious. He can be out-right damn stupid.

But boy, does he pack a punch...</strong><hr></blockquote>


Another one with the gift of hindsight. You are blessed.
 
Originally posted by Private PeeWee:
<strong>

<img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" />

You should read more than the heading b4 u scream for blood. If u had READ what I wrote you would have seen I defend Keane alot in the text.

Please. Don't embarass yourself so much. I am sure you have a brain in there, somewhere?


You should realise Mr Peewee that if you have a go at some players on this site you are an ABU. I agree with everything you say but Roy Keen is untouchable. Personally, for the money some of them are getting (about 5 times in 1 week what I earn in a year), I believe they should be capable of harnassing their stupidity and arrogance.

I have earlier believed we have supporters with brains too. Don't make me take that back. Shoo-shoo. Shame on u.

<img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

You should realise Mr Peewee that having a go at certain players on this site makes you an ABU with some people. I agree with what you wrote and feel that with the money some of these players receive (about 5 times in 1 week what I earn in a year) they should be able to harnass their stupidity and arrogance.
 
Originally posted by OldRed1:
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You should realise Mr Peewee that having a go at certain players on this site makes you an ABU with some people. I agree with what you wrote and feel that with the money some of these players receive (about 5 times in 1 week what I earn in a year) they should be able to harnass their stupidity and arrogance.</strong><hr></blockquote>

It's good to see that there actually is a fan or two whom do know what code of behaviour to use, to think b4 one speaks, and forth.

THE DEBATE WAS ABOUT KEANE, intentionally. I am sure I speak for a lot of people when I SAY THAT ALOT OF FANS HERE THAT LABEL OTHERS ABUs, REALLY ARE A DISGRACE TO OUR CLUB. YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO SUPPORT OUR TEAM, BUT YOU REALLY ARE NO BENEFIT. MOST OF THE TIME IS SPEANT HARASSING OTHER PEOPLE, AND TRIES TO STOP ANY SORT OF DEBATE THAT REQUIRES ANY SORT OF THINKING. I AM ASHAMED THAT PEOPLE LIKE YOU EXCIST, AND THAT YOU ACTUALLY "SUPPORT" MY TEAM, MANCHESTER UNITED.
 
I take it most of u are abt 4 years old or so. That could explain atleast some of the responses. If not you really should hide. What a disgrace you are. Having a go at people that dares to think. To start cannibalizing others for their debates and questions. You don't belong in the western culture. You should turn Islamic. Go hide in Iraque, or another place like that. Shame shame.
 
I'm on a mission now to lock eveything this pillock puts on the United forum.

Until he comes clean on who he supportes.