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30 May:

Royal XV v Lions (1400 BST, 1500 local time)
Royal Bafokeng, Rustenburg

3 June:

Golden Lions v Lions (1810 BST, 1910 local time)
Ellis Park, Johannesburg

6 June:

Free State Cheetahs v Lions (1400 BST, 1500 local time)
Vodacom Park, Bloemfontein

10 June:

Sharks v Lions (1810 BST, 1910 local time)
ABSA Park, Durban

13 June:

Western Province v Lions (1400 BST, 1500 local time)
Newlands, Cape Town

16 June:

Southern Kings v Lions (1400 BST, 1500 local time)
Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium, Port Elizabeth

20 June:

South Africa v Lions (first Test) (1400 BST, 1500 local time)
ABSA Park, Durban

23 June:

Emerging Springboks v Lions (1810 BST, 1910 local time)
Newlands, Cape Town

27 June:

South Africa v Lions (second Test) (1400 BST, 1500 local time)
Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria

4 July:

South Africa v Lions (third Test) (1400 BST, 1500 local time)
Ellis Park, Johannesburg

Useful links:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/7345284.stm

http://www.lionsrugby.com/
 
Royal XV 25-37 Lions


Royal XV (18) 25
Tries: Koch, Barnes, Roux Cons: Olivier, Viljoen Pens: Olivier 2
Lions (10) 37
Tries: Bowe, Byrne, Wyn Jones, O'Gara Cons: O'Gara 4 Pens: O'Gara 3

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The Lions launched a late fightback to beat the Royal XV and avoid what would have been their first defeat in the opening tour match since 1971.

Two tries in quick succession, from Wilhelm Koch and Rayno Barnes, helped the hosts take a shock 18-3 lead.

Tommy Bowe's converted try made it 18-10 at the break before a Ronan O'Gara penalty cut the lead to five.

Bees Roux scored for the hosts but late tries from Lee Byrne, Alun Wyn Jones and O'Gara saw the Lions home.

A sparse crowd at the Royal Bafokeng Sports Palace in Rustenberg - the Super 14 final was taking place in nearby Pretoria - saw the Lions make a raft of mistakes and struggle to gel in the first hour.

An embarrassing defeat was on the cards - for the first time in a Lions tour opener since losing 15-11 to the Queensland Reds in 1971 - to an equally scratch side made up of players from the third tier of South African rugby.

It was not all bad for the Lions and Jamie Roberts and Lee Byrne both turned in fine performances despite the rocky display from the team as a unit, and in the end the Lions' greater fitness saw them run in three late tries to avoid faces as red as their shirts.

O'Gara kicked a seventh-minute penalty to give the Lions the lead but Naas Olivier soon levelled with a penalty of his own.

The Lions' attempts to get their game going were hampered by centre Keith Earls' inability to hang on to the ball.

The 21-year-old was clearly struggling with nerves and when he dropped a high kick in his own 22 it gave the hosts great field position.

606: DEBATE
For a game where the Lions were expecting to win comfortably it was a pretty flattering scoreline
Tomos

They attacked from a ruck, great hands from Hanno Coetzee put Koch through a gap and the Royal XV captain had the pace and power to just make it to the line.

It soon went from bad to worse for the visitors, as Barnes burst through the middle of a maul to add a second try.

The maul, so rare a sight under the experimental laws (ELVs) that had been in effect for the past year, was making a welcome reappearance as Saturday's game was played under the definitive new laws which prohibit players from dragging down the maul, contrary to the system in use under the trial laws.

Royal XV fly-half Olivier converted the first try and slotted a penalty in between the two tries to give the hosts an unexpected 18-3 lead with less than half an hour on the clock.

As the Lions tried to get back on terms they elected not to kick for goal when awarded penalties and after kicking into the corner once more they finally scored their first try of the tour.

They failed to maul their way over from the line-out but fed the ball into midfield and Bowe popped up to take O'Gara's inside pass and motor over under the posts.

Ireland fly-half O'Gara slotted the conversion and despite a difficult opening 40 minutes, the Lions went in only eight points adrift at the break.

O'Gara trimmed the gap with a penalty two minutes after the restart and with Olivier then missing for the hosts, the Lions approached the last 20 minutes trailing by five points.

By now the tourists had taken charge but despite coming close to scoring several times, with Shane Williams even dropping the ball as he tried to spin over the line, they could not quite breach the hosts' defence.

And the Royal XV made them pay when they mounted a rare attack and Roux's converted score gave them what looked like being a decisive 25-13 lead.

With time running out Byrne showed fine footballing skills to score a superb solo try and give the tourists some hope, and O'Gara's conversion and a subsequent penalty cut the gap to two points with seven minutes to play.

By now the momentum had swung firmly in favour of the Lions and first Wyn Jones and then O'Gara went over for converted tries to ensure the Lions got the tour under way with the result, if not the performance, they wanted.

Royal Highveld XV: Russell Jeacocks (Leopards); Egon Seconds (Griquas), Deon van Rensburg (Leopards), Hanno Coetzee (Griquas), Bjorn Basson (Griquas); Naas Olivier (Griquas), Sarel Pretorius (Griquas); Albertus Buckle (Griquas), Rayno Barnes (Griquas), Bees Roux (Griquas), Rudi Mathee (Leopards), Jacques Lombard (Griquas), Wilhelm Koch (Leopards, capt), Devon Raubenheimer (Griquas), Jonathan Makoena (Griquas).
Replacements: Pellow van der Westhuizen (Leopards), Stef Roberts (Griquas), Rynard Landman (Leopards), RW Kember (Leopards), Jacques Coetzee (Pumas), Riaan Viljoen (Griquas), Jovan Bowles (Bulldogs).

Lions: Lee Byrne (Ospreys/Wales), Tommy Bowe (Ospreys/Ireland), Keith Earls (Munster/Ireland), Jamie Roberts (Cardiff Blues/Wales), Shane Williams (Ospreys/Wales); Ronan O'Gara (Munster/Ireland), Mike Blair (Edinburgh/Scotland); Andrew Sheridan (Sales Sharks/England), Matthew Rees (Scarlets/Wales), Adam Jones (Ospreys/Wales), Simon Shaw (London Wasps/England), Paul O'Connell (Munster/Ireland - captain), Joe Worsley (London Wasps/England), Martyn Williams (Cardiff Blues/Wales), David Wallace (Munster/Ireland).
Replacements: Lee Mears (Bath/England), Phil Vickery (London Wasps/England), Alun-Wyn Jones (Ospreys/Wales), Jamie Heaslip (Leinster/Ireland), Mike Phillips (Ospreys/Wales), Stephen Jones (Scarlets/Wales), Riki Flutey (London Wasps/England).

Referee: Marius Jonker (South Africa).

Assistant referees: Craig Joubert and Mark Lawrence (both South Africa).
 
Well that was a complete and utter shambles :wenger:

Wasn't good, but I remember them starting very badly last time and still managing to put 100 on midweek teams once they found their rhythm. Obviously comparisons with last time aren't too good in terms of the test matches, but in all honesty this isn't a very good Lions squad, and we can't expect too much.

While today's game was worrying, it was made worse for me by watching the Super 14 final afterwards and seeing the Bulls side, which has several definite Springboks, put 60 points on a NZ club side, which smashed the record for a final. Combine that with the mess of a Lions game and things look pretty bad for them.
 
I'd be of your thinking also to be honest.

Aye. It's odd, because I've played and followed rugby for years, and enjoyed the Lions' games as much as the next man.

But I have no attachment to them whatsoever, and I just watch it because some of the best players in the world are playing, not because I really care whether they win or lose.
 
To be honest living in England, the media here has killed the Lion's tour for me before it even got started. To them it is the British Lions, always will be and they did little to conceal their disgust at the high number of Irish players included in key positions in the squad.
Also the outrage at so few English players being omitted despite them being the whipping boys for some years now.
 
Much better, lads.

Golden Lions 10-74 Lions


Golden Lions (10) 10
Tries: Frolick Cons: Pretorius Pens: Pretorius
British and Irish Lions (39) 74
Tries: Roberts 2, O'Driscoll, Monye 2, Croft, Bowe 2, Hook, Ferris Cons: Jones 6, Hook 3 Pens: Jones 2
By James Standley


The Lions laid down a firm challenge to the Springboks as they put the Golden Lions to the sword in Johannesburg.

The tourists were a totally different proposition from the side which stumbled through their opening match.

A Jamie Roberts brace and tries from Brian O'Driscoll, Ugo Monye and Tom Croft helped them into a 39-10 half-time lead at Ellis Park.

Tommy Bowe grabbed a double after the break and Monye, James Hook and Stephen Ferris completed the 10-try rout.

Back in 1997 John Bentley scorched up the Ellis Park turf on his way to a superb solo try against the Gauteng Lions, the former name of the Golden Lions.

His dazzling score was seen as the spark which ignited the tour and set the Lions on their way to a 2-1 series victory.

And although there was no one moment which stood out as dramatically on Wednesday night, the tourists produced many marvellous passages of play to put Saturday's shoddy opening display against the Royal XV firmly behind them.

The Golden Lions had sacked coach Eugene Eloff in the wake of a disappointing Super 14 campaign which saw them finish only two off the bottom, and in protest a group of senior players had planned to make themselves unavailable.

In the end they were persuaded to play but may have rapidly regretted their decision as the Lions dominated from the first whistle at Ellis Park, which was filled to less than half capacity.

The opening minutes were marred by an injury to Golden Lions full-back Louis Ludick, who was stretchered off after injuring his knee in a collision with Lions flanker David Wallace.

No sooner had the match restarted then the Lions opened their account with a sparkling score.

A series of drives from the forwards took the tourists deep into the home 22 before O'Driscoll stepped inside his man and sent Roberts crashing over.

Two minutes later O'Driscoll, captaining the Lions for the first time since being carried off with a dislocated shoulder in the opening stages of the first Test in New Zealand in 2005, profited from Bowe's break to open his account for the tour.

Wales fly-half Stephen Jones, who missed only one attempt at goal out of nine before handing over kicking duties to Hook, converted both tries and soon added a penalty to give the Lions a 17-0 lead after 12 minutes.

The hosts managed to break their duck through an Andre Pretorious penalty, but it was brief respite and the Lions soon went back on the attack.

Jones added a second penalty for the Lions before Bowe completed a rapid hat-trick of scoring passes by sending first Monye and then Croft galloping over.

Jones converted the second score to make it 32-3 and although Shandre Frolick finished off a sweeping attack to give the hosts a rapturously-received try, there was still time for Roberts to grab his second try of the half.

The Welshman, who built on his fine display in the opening match with another display of powerful running, used all his strength to dot down, with Jones's conversion making it 39-10.

With the job long since done the Lions eased off the accelerator in the second half but Bowe was still hungry and he took the chance to turn from provider into finisher.

He profited from fine hands from Jones to dive over out wide soon after the break for his first try before picking off an interception score.

Jones landed both conversions to take the Lions past the half-century mark and the tourists had not finished yet, despite bringing on a host of replacements.

Monye, Hook and Ferris all raced over for converted tries as the tourists ensured the only Lions deserving the epithet "Golden" at Ellis Park were the red-shirted ones from Britain and Ireland.

British and Irish Lions team to play the Golden Lions:

R Kearney (Leinster and Ireland); T Bowe (Ospreys and Ireland), B O'Driscoll (Leinster and Ireland, captain), J Roberts (Cardiff Blues and Wales), U Monye (Harlequins and England); S Jones (Scarlets and Wales), M Phillips (Ospreys and Wales); G Jenkins (Cardiff Blues and Wales), L Mears (Bath and England), P Vickery (Wasps and England), N Hines (Perpignan and Scotland), A-W Jones (Ospreys and Wales), T Croft (Leicester and England), D Wallace (Munster and Ireland), J Heaslip (Leinster and Ireland).
Replacements: R Ford (Edinburgh and Scotland), E Murray (Northampton and Scotland), S Ferris (Ulster and Ireland), A Powell (Cardiff Blues and Wales), H Ellis (Leicester and England), J Hook (Ospreys and Wales), S Williams (Ospreys and Wales).

Golden Lions side:

L Ludik; M Killian, J Boshoff, D la Grange, D Noble; A Pretorius, J Vermaak; L Sephaka, W Wepener, G Muller, B Mockford, W Stoltz, C Grobbelaar, F van der Merwe, W Alberts.
Replacements: E Reynecke, J Van Rensburg, E Joubert, T Clever, C Jonck, W Venter, E Rose.
 
To be honest living in England, the media here has killed the Lion's tour for me before it even got started. To them it is the British Lions, always will be and they did little to conceal their disgust at the high number of Irish players included in key positions in the squad.
Also the outrage at so few English players being omitted despite them being the whipping boys for some years now.

tbf the whipping boys are the French.
 
great perfomance from Bowe and Robinson last night.

But to be fair the gloden lions were shit and there one on one tackling was atrocious, Im more inclined to think it was more of a shit performance by the golden lions than a great performance by the British and Irish Lions.
 
17-0 after 15 mins to the Lions, tries from Ferris and Earls. The Earls one was particularly well worked - chip by Hook picked up by Earls who beat a couple of defenders with a mazy run. Good performance form the Lions so far.