Team & Formation For Birmingham

sebaveron

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I think he will go more or less the same team that went out against middlesbrough. Changes begin Silvestre (if fit) for O'shea & Ferdinand for Blanc.

So it'd be :

Barthez
G.Neville - Ferdinand - Brown - Silvestre
Solskjaer - Veron - Keane - Giggs
Scholes
V.Nistelrooy

I don't think Beckham has showed anything against Middlesbrough that should earn him a starting place. I remember last year when SAF kept leaving him on the bench & everytime he came on he played brilliantly. Hasn't happened quite yet. Anyway I think Ole deserves his place at the moment. Blanc was poor against Middlesbrough, looked shakey & edgey so Ferdinand should come in for him.
 
Barthez;
G Neville, Brown, Ferdinand, Silvestre
Beckham, Veron, P Neville, O'Shea
Forlan, Solskjaer

And if we need him, bring Ruud on after an hour or so. He needs a rest.
 
Barthez
G Neville, Brown, Silvestre, O'Shea
Beckham, Veron, P Neville, Forlan
RVN, Solskjaer
 
Originally posted by curt:
<strong>Barthez;
G Neville, Brown, Ferdinand, Silvestre
Beckham, Veron, P Neville, O'Shea
Forlan, Solskjaer

And if we need him, bring Ruud on after an hour or so. He needs a rest.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Agree..but I would put Silvestre in left midfield instead of O'Shea
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Originally posted by sebaveron:
<strong>
I don't think Beckham has showed anything against Middlesbrough that should earn him a starting place. I remember last year when SAF kept leaving him on the bench & everytime he came on he played brilliantly. Hasn't happened quite yet. </strong><hr></blockquote>
What? Beckham, in my eyes has been outstanding!! He shows sooo much determination and loyalty when he comes onto the pitch, trying to win EVERY tackle, always giving 100%, I don't understand why you, and more importantly SAF leaves him out, I would like to see him have a long-run in the team....
Giggs needs a DROP to the bench (not a rest!)
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Barthez
G Neville, Rio, Brown, Silvestre (O'Shea)
Beckham, Keano, Veron, Solskjaer
Scholes
Forlan

Ruud needs a rest, Giggs needs a rest and Becks deserves to start.
 
Barthez
GAZ---Rio----Brown-------OSHEA

Beckham---Keane----Veron----Silvestre


------------Scholes------------

------------Solskjear-----------


Rest RVN and Giggs
 
I agree that giggs need to rest but I think Nistelrooy should play because he haven't score in previous two games already. The team should play 4-4-2 with two strikers Nistelrooy, Solskjaer. Scholes push back as central attacking midfield. Rotating Veron & Keane because it's less effective to have two defensive midfield. Rest Brown because he started to sight tireness in the Boro game and bring in Rio. My opinion formation:

Barthez

Gary-------Rio-------Blanc-----Silvestre

Seba or Keano
Becks----------Scholes--------Forlan or O'shea

Ruud-----Ole
 
Don't understand all you people who want Keane in the team at this point in time!

Yes, he's not fully match-fit, but players can still have partial influence on a team when they are still recovering fitness. There is no reason why Phil Neville should be dropped to accommodate Keane at the moment. He played monumental games against Arsenal and Deportivo. If he plays shit, then by all means play Keane, but not just for the sake of playing Keane.

It's absolutely ILLOGICAL to do what Ferguson has done. Also, Keane slows the game up, which I know is in contrast to fans who were saying that Seba slow things up. Seba plays the ball at rapid pace - shame his team-mates can't control the fecker (Giggs anyone?).

And before anybody slags me off for having a go at Keane and Giggs, remember no player is bigger than Manchester United, not even close to being so.
 
Originally posted by Paz:
<strong>
What? Beckham, in my eyes has been outstanding!! He shows sooo much determination and loyalty when he comes onto the pitch, trying to win EVERY tackle, always giving 100%, I don't understand why you, and more importantly SAF leaves him out, I would like to see him have a long-run in the team....
Giggs needs a DROP to the bench (not a rest!)</strong><hr></blockquote>

becks can show 110% commitment but hes not performing anywhere near his best
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Originally posted by manusteve:
<strong>Don't understand all you people who want Keane in the team at this point in time!

Yes, he's not fully match-fit, but players can still have partial influence on a team when they are still recovering fitness. There is no reason why Phil Neville should be dropped to accommodate Keane at the moment. He played monumental games against Arsenal and Deportivo. If he plays shit, then by all means play Keane, but not just for the sake of playing Keane.

It's absolutely ILLOGICAL to do what Ferguson has done. Also, Keane slows the game up, which I know is in contrast to fans who were saying that Seba slow things up. Seba plays the ball at rapid pace - shame his team-mates can't control the fecker (Giggs anyone?).

And before anybody slags me off for having a go at Keane and Giggs, remember no player is bigger than Manchester United, not even close to being so.</strong><hr></blockquote>

A very good point!!! Agreed!! Keane hsould not just play cos' he's KEANE!!!! and he ain't even match-fit....p.neville has done very well....and with p.neville seba also playes better...so there is no point in rushing back Keane...only if neville plays crap we should put him on..
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Originally posted by manusteve:
<strong>Don't understand all you people who want Keane in the team at this point in time!

Yes, he's not fully match-fit, but players can still have partial influence on a team when they are still recovering fitness. There is no reason why Phil Neville should be dropped to accommodate Keane at the moment. He played monumental games against Arsenal and Deportivo. If he plays shit, then by all means play Keane, but not just for the sake of playing Keane.

It's absolutely ILLOGICAL to do what Ferguson has done. Also, Keane slows the game up, which I know is in contrast to fans who were saying that Seba slow things up. Seba plays the ball at rapid pace - shame his team-mates can't control the fecker (Giggs anyone?).

And before anybody slags me off for having a go at Keane and Giggs, remember no player is bigger than Manchester United, not even close to being so.</strong><hr></blockquote>

exactly, I'm with you too, on this one...
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I agree, although I'm not too big on Ole Solskjaer in right midfield. I like what he does going forward and his crosses have proven to be quite lethal, however, Solksjaer doesn't get stuck into midfield, whereas Beckham would lunge into tackles allover. And I think right now this is vital for Manchester United. For eg....We had the lions share of posession against Middlesborous, yes? But we got caught countless times on the counterattack, with Quedrue finding space on that left hand side where Beckham would normally be chasing around, however solskjaer doesn't possess the natural midfield mentality and tenaciousness ability to do that job on a defensive level. As for Keane, he shouldn't have played. One reserve game isn't enough to then throw him into a game against Blackburn for half an hour and then persist with playing him in a vital Premier League game away at Middlesborough. On top of that, It's quite clear that Blanc is getting caught out numerous times at the back with his lack of pace (no fault of his) but It's not helping our defence at the moment! Okay, so Rio isn't fully fit so I agree he should have been left on the bench, however, there was other options. Gary Nev could have played at the back with Brown, with say Phil going right back. But to keep on the 11 I wish to play against Birmingham, here they are.
Enough of this crap, if we play 4-5-1 at HOME, against what is a first Division outfit (some will disagree) then I will seriously question SAF's motives. He needs to get two forwards up there, Ruud to link with another guy. It''s proven to work! Give Forlan a chance Alex, he hasn't let you down yet!

Barthez

Gary Nev Rio Brown Mickey (just edged out O Shea)

Becks Scholes Seba Giggs

Ole Forlan (rest Ruud)
 
Personally i think we should drop Giggs for a couple of games.I am certainly not slagging giggs off because i remember the fantastic times we have had with him in the team but he is struggling and at times i find it hard to believe that after ten years at United he cannot consistently cross the ball.
Would love to see Richardson against Brum.
Barthez.
G.Neville Ferdinand Brown Silvestre

Beckham Keane Veron
Scholes
Nistelrooy Solskjaer
On paper i think this team would stuff Birmingham without mistakes i have chosen 3 midfielders because that is Brum's strongest point and it will be tough in there with Savage and Cisse.We also need to play 2 strikers to take the load of Ruud.
 
Originally posted by Donaldinho:
<strong>I On top of that, It's quite clear that Blanc is getting caught out numerous times at the back with his lack of pace (no fault of his) but It's not helping our defence at the moment!

Enough of this crap, if we play 4-5-1 at HOME, against what is a first Division outfit (some will disagree) then I will seriously question SAF's motives. He needs to get two forwards up there, Ruud to link with another guy. It''s proven to work! Give Forlan a chance Alex, he hasn't let you down yet!

</strong><hr></blockquote>

Agree with your comments above. I'm going to the match tomorrow and what I'm absolutely dreading is arriving at OT to find that we're playing 4-5-1 against Birmingham City at home.

The only way I can really see that working is if we play with the back 4 that we had during our recent great run (or with Rio if Mickey's not fit), and if our midfielders are able to get up front quickly enough to give Ruud/or whoever proper support.

For me, Larry needs to be dropped. I think his time has come and gone. When he plays, the entire defence plays too deep and the midfield's pulled back which prevents them getting up the pitch quickly enough to support Ruud. Also, I think the other defenders look more vulnerable/nervous when Larry's playing because they know he's always in danger of being beaten for pace. That's not Larry's fault. It's called aging. It happens to everyone. But he shouldn't be playing in our back 4 when we've got players like Rio and JOS available.

As for our strikers, I'd like to see 4-4-2 tomorrow, preferably with Ole and Ruud. But any 2 of our 3 strikers would work for me.
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............ Barthez..........

G neville....brown.....Silvestre.....O'shea

Solskjaer......Veron......Phil........Giggs

..............Scholes.......................

.......................Ruud.................

Obviously keane isnt in the team but isnt it funny when all the big guns return we start playin shite. I would keep it the same team without keane etc and see how it goes without them, if things dont go well weve got a star studded bench so we could bring on becks,rio and keane which would help. I wasnt at all impressed with blanc against boro he is good enough 2 play for utd but hes not working well with brown and yesterday prooved it.
 
At least it looks like they're going to come to OT to play and not try to defend for 90 minutes. That should make it easier for us.

<a href="http://msn.skysports.com/skysports/article/0,,3360-1074735,00.html" target="_blank">http://msn.skysports.com/skysports/article/0,,3360-1074735,00.html</a>
 
Originally posted by manusteve:
<strong> Seba plays the ball at rapid pace - shame his team-mates can't control the fecker (Giggs anyone?).</strong><hr></blockquote>

After 1 1/2 seasons, I'm glad somebody has finally noticed this.
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it's kind of a controversy. but it seems to me SAF has violated some basic principles in soccer i.e NEVER CHANGE A WINNING TEAM WHEN YOU ARE ON A WIINNING STREAK; NO ONE HAS DIVINE RIGHTS TO PLAY EVEN STARS SHD ONLY BE FIELDED ONCE THEY ARE FULLY FIT; IF THE GAME IS SO FAST, SLOW PLAYERS SHDN'T BE PART OF THE DEFENSE (I THINK BLANC IS SLOWEST DEFENDER IN EUROPE); DON'T REST ANY PLAYER ON FORM (LIKE PHIL NEVILLE AT THE MOMENT) UNLESS HE ASKS FOR A REST...

that said, Roy Keane should wait a while, Diego Forlan and Phil Neville are must starters, Blanc shd be promoted to coach-player -- being technical adviser to the defenders.

so my formation for Man Utd: 4-2-3-1

G.neville, brown, ferdinand, silvestre
veron, p.neville,(o'shea)
ole scholes giggs
RUV
 
i think it's time to try out some thihg new
like 3-4-3 against team like Birmingham which dun have quick striker like Owen, so no point defense
with back 4.
three quick denfender is enough.
take giggs out surely.
bring in oshea as left winger.
this is assuming silvestre is injured.

Formation:
Barthez(the best u can find in MU)

Gary Neville ---- Wes Brown --- Rio Ferdinand

Beckham --- Scholes --- Veron --- O'shea

Forlan -- Nisterooy -- Solskjaer

Forlan play good in right wing, why dun push him up abit, still right wing but very forward right wing, Solskjaer back to original forward position.
U can notice there is lack of defensive midfielder
. Dun mind coz we have 3 young & quick denfenders
at the back. And to tell u that Barthez sometimes will come out as sweeper will made u even more happy & entertaining.

This formation is somehow to win BIG, not just to win

Any comments&gt;&gt;&gt;???
 
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