Super Diego Forlan.

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Another goal for the reserves last night

United reserves 3 Birmingham 0
FA Premier Reserve League (North)

Diego Forlan grabbed another goal for the reserves to make his record read five goals in two games for the stiffs.

But it was another United player that really caught the eye. Kieran Richardson produced a glorious midfield display to delight the Moss Lane crowd.

The United youngster looked like creating an opening every time he had the ball at his feet. His elegant and effortless style is reminiscent of a young Ryan Giggs.

However, Birmingham were impressive in the first half an hour and the Reds looked somewhat lacklustre.

Ricardo was forced to pull off numerous saves to deny Birmingham the lead. Craig Fagan and the dangerous Jovan Kirovski went closest for the visitors but the Spanish stopper kept them out.

Midway through the first half it was the home side who finally managed to find the breakthrough. Forlan’s goal came from some good work from the terrier-like forward Daniel Nardiello, who played the ball across the face of goal for Diego to tap home.

Forlan went close early on after Quinton Fortune had curled a delightful through-ball into his path. However, Birmingham stopper Ian Bennett charged off his line to smother the ball.

With three minutes to go until half-time, Richardson went on a winding run and pulled the ball back intelligently to Danny Pugh. But Pugh’s first touch left an angle that was too tight and his shot was high and wide.

Moments earlier, Richardson attempted to repeat his wonder-goal against Blackburn with a 25-yard strike. Unfortunately for the 17-year-old his shot fizzed over the crossbar.

On the balance of play, Mike Phelan’s charges were lucky to go in 1-0 up at half-time, but some stern words during the break seemed to galvanise the Reds.

United came out confidently for the second half. And with 51 minutes on the clock a neat interchange between Luke Chadwick and Mark Lynch saw Nardiello receive the ball in the box. The Coventry-born striker still had two players to beat but he bustled his way through before smashing the ball past Bennett to make it 2-0 to the Reds.

Nardiello could have added to his own tally ten minutes later. Richardson started a sweeping move with a driving pass out to Diego Forlan on the left wing. Forlan then curled in an inch-perfect cross to Nardiello, who was lurking at the back post, but his shot was straight Bennett’s legs.

With Saturday’s first-team fixture against Fulham in mind, Diego Forlan made way for reserve team debutant Eddie Johnson in the 64th minute - his first action was to clatter a Birmingham defender, the 18-year-old certainly wanted to make his mark on the game or at least on Olivier Tebily.

In the 72nd minute, the ever-hardworking Nardiello picked up the ball on the right-hand side and powerfully attacked the Birmingham defence. He was bundled over in the box by Blues defender Tebily, but there was never any doubt who would take the penalty.

Equally in doubt was the quality of Nardiello’s penalty – a rasping drive into the bottom corner, which sent the keeper completely the wrong way - capping off another fine display by the player who celebrates his 20th birthday on Tuesday.

The biggest bonus for Sir Alex Ferguson is that Fortune, Forlan, Richardson and Ricardo – and possibly Luke Chadwick and Danny Pugh - all looked ready to make the step up to first team action if necessary.

The win puts Mike Phelan’s side third in the table and means the reserves have now won their last three games with ten goals scored and none conceded.

United line-up: Ricardo; Lynch, Rankin, Tate, May; Pugh, Chadwick (Timm 64), Richardson, Fortune (Fox 77); Forlan (Johnson 64), Nardiello.
Report by Ben Hibbs.
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Keep it up Diego. :D

It wont be long now until hes repaying nearly everyoes faith in him in the first team ;)
 
Jesus if I couldnt score against Birmingham reseveres I'd be worried. He still has only scored 1 penalty in 20 first team appearances!!!
 
Originally posted by Stick:
<strong>Jesus if I couldnt score against Birmingham reseveres I'd be worried. He still has only scored 1 penalty in 20 first team appearances!!!</strong><hr></blockquote>

We've all been critical of Diego or at least his transfer to United without sufficient research as to what his real strengths were but at least he's now being given a proper run out in the reserves to show what he can do, to take the pressure off him and to rebuild his confidence which must have taken a knock. Let him establish himself as a proven goalscorer in the reserves first before giving him a decent run in the first team, not just 5 or 10 mins as a sub. Let's hope he makes it.
 
Great, maybe we can interest Birmingham to buy him? :rolleyes:

Seriously though, he needs to start doing something for the first team unless we just bought him to fire the reserves to another title?
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Just dont think he is great. Any youngster could do a decent job or even a better one than diego. He isnt great with his back to goal. He doesnt have lightning pace and he seems to spend most of his time running backwards. Ok give him time but is 20 games not enough I know they were 5-10 min runs but look a Ole he used to get the same chances but he looked more hungry!!
 
Originally posted by Stick:
<strong>Just dont think he is great. Any youngster could do a decent job or even a better one than diego. He isnt great with his back to goal. He doesnt have lightning pace and he seems to spend most of his time running backwards. Ok give him time but is 20 games not enough I know they were 5-10 min runs but look a Ole he used to get the same chances but he looked more hungry!!</strong><hr></blockquote>

Can I call you Stuck? Coz I think that's where you are at the moment.

Forlan's not good with his back to goal because he wasn't a born out out striker. He was actually a winger at Independente. He scored a lot of goals coming from that position so everyone especially the Ferguson family (Martin and Alex) think he can make a world class striker.

WRONG! He'll be excellent replacing Becks on the right. But too bad we already have one world class player there in becks, the only available position for Forlan to make it is in the attack.

We have to give him time, even if it's going to be a whole year in the reserves. He had to adapt first to the English lifestyle, fans like you people who don't understand his games, and also to adapt to be able to play in the attacking position.

I believe in the lad and I see a good future for him in the United side.
 
Time is one thing that is not given in football. Its a tough game but thats the way it is. So he's a winger and will never be a forward of great quality and he'll never replace giggs or Beckham so whats the point in keeping him??? :p
 
I think Richardson is really starting to show his quality now as well, i think the WC game will be his chance to really show fergie what he can do.
 
We have to be critical of someone who cannot take the step up to first team. Keep him in the reserves a while longer, maybe he will work up a hunger for the goal there.
 
The guy scores 5 goals in two games, and all he gets is Stick. <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" /> :rolleyes:
 
Agreed give him a break guys <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" />
 
Originally posted by Burt:
<strong>We have to be critical of someone who cannot take the step up to first team. </strong><hr></blockquote>

That's bollocks.
 
Excellent News. This is probably how Diego should've progressed in the first place, instead of being thrown into the Prem right away.
 
Originally posted by Stick:
<strong>Jesus if I couldnt score against Birmingham reseveres I'd be worried. He still has only scored 1 penalty in 20 first team appearances!!!</strong><hr></blockquote>

.........if you add up his minutes played and divide by 90 you will get a number. THAT number is the number of 90 minutes he has played. You'll find the number to be in and around 9. Also, just like the game against Olympiakos, Forlan has come on when United have finished off a team. Players are tired and uninventive. They've done their job and are only going to make a serious mount on goal if the oportunity arrises.

All of these things are important to acknowledge before one decides to highlight what a total TWAT they are by making a statement such as that of Stick's.

:rolleyes:
 
Fact remains that he has only scored 1 penalty in 20 appearances can you tell me Im wrong???
 
Originally posted by Stick:
<strong>Fact remains that he has only scored 1 penalty in 20 appearances can you tell me Im wrong???</strong><hr></blockquote>

How many penalties would you suggest he should've scored by now ? :confused: ;)
 
Originally posted by Stick:
<strong>Fact remains that he has only scored 1 penalty in 20 appearances can you tell me Im wrong???</strong><hr></blockquote>
And its a meaningless fact, for the reasons Kinky has made.
 
But it is a fact so I am right I would say that if a manager won 1 game in 20 he would be sacked. I wouldnt mind if the lad had made an impression in any of the games he played in but he hasnt. He isnt a quality player and thats why he can score reserve team goals and not first team. He will continue to bench warm at united until he gets a move home.
 
Originally posted by Stick:
<strong>But it is a fact so I am right I would say that if a manager won 1 game in 20 he would be sacked. I wouldnt mind if the lad had made an impression in any of the games he played in but he hasnt. He isnt a quality player and thats why he can score reserve team goals and not first team. He will continue to bench warm at united until he gets a move home.</strong><hr></blockquote>
What a useless analogy! Forlan isn't responsible for the entire team when he comes on for a few minutes at the end of a game!
 
Originally posted by Stick:
<strong>But it is a fact so I am right I would say that if a manager won 1 game in 20 he would be sacked. I wouldnt mind if the lad had made an impression in any of the games he played in but he hasnt. He isnt a quality player and thats why he can score reserve team goals and not first team. He will continue to bench warm at united until he gets a move home.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I've had a chance to see him in action with his old club and can tell you that he is infact quality, and will break through at some point this year. Secondly, you can't compare his limited/late match action to that of a manager. He's a squad player at the moment and is still developing his game. Players from other cultures develop at different rates. In Forlan's case, he has been dealing with a lack of confidence imo, which is something that he definitely did not have in the Argentine league.
 
Well I'd say he will be with united for another season making few appearances and scoring about 3 goals. He'll be let go to an average team and put in adequate performances like Jordi Cruyff or Quinton Fortune one of those quality players <img src="graemlins/annoyed.gif" border="0" alt="[Annoyed]" />
 
Originally posted by lchk:
<strong>Super?
Do it regularly in the first team then.</strong><hr></blockquote>

oh but he will, and i cant wait :D
mwhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
 
Originally posted by Davo:
<strong>Excellent news

Hopefully this will lead to more first time action for the goal shy Uruguayan flop....</strong><hr></blockquote>

are you itchy in disguise?
 
I still think he'll be a success. His work rate is excellent and he gets in good positions. It just hasn't been happening for him and i think that extra pressure has got to him a bit. I read a report on teletext that said Ruud is out tomorrow and diego might be in line for a starting position upfront for a change.
Fulham don't have the tightest defence and he should be able to find space.
I hope he does start tomorrow and gets a full 90 minutes.
I reckon it could be worth a bet on him scoring, the odds have got to be pretty good. I wouldn't be suprised is his first domestic goal becomes a hat-trick. Given the chances i reckon he could be a 20 a season scorer.
 
itz great to hear the young guns doin well. Go Forlan!!!! Hope he keeps it up and carries it on into the PL.

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Originally posted by Ever hopefull:
<strong> I read a report on teletext that said Ruud is out tomorrow and diego might be in line for a starting position upfront for a change.
Fulham don't have the tightest defence and he should be able to find space.
I hope he does start tomorrow and gets a full 90 minutes.
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Fergie said that Ruud is definitely out for the match today. I'd really like to see Ole and Diego start up front against Fulham. Having scored 5 goals in the last 2 matches in the reserves should have given Diego's confidence a bit of a boost...and I don't think Ole should be left isolated up front as a lone striker. I'd be surprised if Fergie didn't stick with 4-5-1 again though with Ole up front and either Scholes or Giggs supporting him.
 
Originally posted by Stick:
<strong>But it is a fact so I am right I would say that if a manager won 1 game in 20 he would be sacked. I wouldnt mind if the lad had made an impression in any of the games he played in but he hasnt. He isnt a quality player and thats why he can score reserve team goals and not first team. He will continue to bench warm at united until he gets a move home.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Oh for FECK sakes. :rolleyes: That has got to be one of the most light weight arguements I have read on this cafe for reasons both Neil & Raoul have mentioned above.

Do you not remember the game against Spurs when he had a cracker of a game ? He set up David Beckahm, who finished excellently ? I'm not going to sit here and run off incidents. The ONLY thing wrong with Forlan's game is his inability to score. HIs movement is second to none, his positioning is very good, he is fast, he has a good first touch. He gives the ball away 1 in 10 times times. He ALWAYS chooses the right option when passing.

He's unsung, and this is so because of people like YOU stick, who do not have a grasp of what it takes to spot proficiency in football. It is so plainly obvious he is going to be a gem and Fergie KNOWS this mate !

The day I (along with a few more)look forward to, is when Forlan is putting in cracker performances and all the "rush to judgement" brigade on this forum are silenced. You'll see.... :)
 
funny how the same people who slag heskey are so quick to defend forlan....
 
Originally posted by usual_suspect:
<strong>funny how the same people who slag heskey are so quick to defend forlan....</strong><hr></blockquote>

And vice versa.
 
The only thing wrong with forlans game is his inability to score. Did united sign him as a winger where they have giggs beckham richardson chadwick all fighting for places or did they sign him as a forward where correct me if Im wrong scoring is paramount to your success! Im hardly jumping to conclusions either I mean he's had a year he is an established bench warmer and that is all.
 
how much did forlan cost cuz we could have bought someone else or.....
 
Originally posted by Murt:
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oh but he will, and i cant wait :D
mwhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa</strong><hr></blockquote>

So when do you think he will do it? this season? next? other dates?
 
Originally posted by Kinky Melinky:
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Oh for FECK sakes. :rolleyes: That has got to be one of the most light weight arguements I have read on this cafe for reasons both Neil & Raoul have mentioned above.

Do you not remember the game against Spurs when he had a cracker of a game ? He set up David Beckahm, who finished excellently ? I'm not going to sit here and run off incidents. The ONLY thing wrong with Forlan's game is his inability to score. HIs movement is second to none, his positioning is very good, he is fast, he has a good first touch. He gives the ball away 1 in 10 times times. He ALWAYS chooses the right option when passing.

He's unsung, and this is so because of people like YOU stick, who do not have a grasp of what it takes to spot proficiency in football. It is so plainly obvious he is going to be a gem and Fergie KNOWS this mate !

The day I (along with a few more)look forward to, is when Forlan is putting in cracker performances and all the "rush to judgement" brigade on this forum are silenced. You'll see.... :) </strong><hr></blockquote>

A little OTT don't you think ? A few more goals in the reserves and then perhaps a proper chance in the first team. I think you overstate his allround game as well. I don't think he has shown that much apart from enthusiasm and a turn of pace. In fact nobody seems to have a clue as to which is his best position. Let him really prove himself in the Reserves first. I'd rather see Timm, Richardson or even Nardiello come on for the last 15 mins or so.