Summer Transfer

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Who will leave Old Trafford this summer?
Who will join Man Utd this summer?
And who is the player you want to buy him?
How should we strengthen our squad?
 
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1) Who will leave?
VanderGouw, May, Woolwork, Irwin and Yorke.
2) Who will join?
Landreau, Nesta, Tudor, D'Allesandro
3)

4) How do we strengthen the squad?
By getting two strong centerbacks i.e Tudor and Nesta, Leaving Giggs upfront with Van "the man" with D'allesandro taking over his role on the left. With this we won't need to replace Yorke. ;)
 
Originally posted by kemo:
<strong>1) Who will leave?
VanderGouw, May, Woolwork, Irwin and Yorke.
2) Who will join?
Landreau, Nesta, Tudor, D'Allesandro
3)

4) How do we strengthen the squad?
By getting two strong centerbacks i.e Tudor and Nesta, Leaving Giggs upfront with Van "the man" with D'allesandro taking over his role on the left. With this we won't need to replace Yorke. ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

And what of Solskjaer ?
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In Europe we would stick to the 4-4-1-1 with Giggs in the hole, and in tough away trips in the prem. Otherwise, as long as we don't get a replacement for Yoeke, Ole will get as much playing time as he has got this season. even more! ;)
 
Originally posted by kemo:
<strong>In Europe we would stick to the 4-4-1-1 with Giggs in the hole, and in tough away trips in the prem. Otherwise, as long as we don't get a replacement for Yoeke, Ole will get as much playing time as he has got this season. even more! ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

So why spend all that money on D'Allesandro when he'd only end up playing a handful of times.
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Who will leave Old Trafford this summer?

B]RVDG, May, Irwin, Blanc (prob), Yorke, Wallwork[/B]

Who will join Man Utd this summer?
Reizeger, Di Canio,]

And who is the player you want to buy him?
Kanoute, Vieira and Joe Cole

How should we strengthen our squad?
By doing the above
 
IMO let giggs play in the hole then get Damien Duff to play left wing...its even better when you consider how dynamic this is cos Duff and Giggs can switch and it'll drive any defence bonkers...
Then as for the defence...Tudor and Thuram would be a really scary backline (can you say brick wall) and (although hardly possible)throw in Carr/Finnan and Bridge...
 
Who will leave Old Trafford this summer?

RVG, Wallwork, yorke, Irwin, Larry +1 big name?


Who will join Man Utd this summer?

Ayala / Mexes.

And who is the player you want to buy?

Shevchenko

How should we strengthen our squad?

One striker and one defender plus a versatile full-back. AND KEEP VERON
 
Trust me Raol in Europe and in away/ tough Euro matches when we take Giggs away from the left the team does lose a penetrative age in it's attacks. scholes does a good job their but frankly he serve us best in the middle. A player like D"alessandro woulkd play like giggs on that wing leaving Fergie the option of choosing Scholes to boost our defensive prowess in the middle. Besides it would be like having a "giggs" playing left wing while the real one is still wrecking havoc in the hole. Trust me. With such a squad another treble would be inevitable.
 
1 Striker - RONALDO! He's back!
1 CB - (can we have stam back?)
1 LB - Sun Jihai (Man City) or Wayne Bridge [Just someone to back up Silvestre]
 
Leave: May,Yorke,Wallwork
I think VanderGouw and Irwin will be coaches.

Join:Holfland,Ayala

I want to buy Nesta, Joe Cole and D'Allesandro.


IMO,We need a world class CB and a potential midfield player. Of course,if we can buy Crespo, our forward will be No.1!
 
Now, We must buy a world class CB.
Our defend is poooooor.

Nesta is the Best!
 
Who will leave Old Trafford this summer?
Irwin and Yorke

Who will join Man Utd this summer?
Hopefully none, promote our youth and reserved squad.

How should we strengthen our squad?
Our current squad is already strong enough to win.
It's just that sometimes things don't go our way. Give them time to adjust and surely it will 'click'.
 
Originally posted by pjaya:
<strong>Who will leave Old Trafford this summer?
Irwin and Yorke

Who will join Man Utd this summer?
Hopefully none, promote our youth and reserved squad.

How should we strengthen our squad?
Our current squad is already strong enough to win.
It's just that sometimes things don't go our way. Give them time to adjust and surely it will 'click'.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I don't know we need to give them time to adjust to what. They are not lads, apart from Veron I don't think the remaining first team players can have any big improvement. Things didn't go our way in early season, but it cannot be used as excuse again in the latter part of the season, when we were outplayed by Leverkusen and Arsenal.
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Leave: Yorke,Phil Neville,May,Fortune,VanDerGouw

Coming:Ayala,DiCanio,Finnan,and Duff


It would be shame not to seriously pursue Damien Duff,excellent player, great at taking on defenders, and can play on the left, taking some of pressure off Giggs. When we won the treble, we had Blomqvist as a cover to Giggs. Need to find that again, and also a decent cover for Becks. We play a lot better when we have our wide players.
 
Originally posted by uranushk1:
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I don't know we need to give them time to adjust to what. They are not lads, apart from Veron I don't think the remaining first team players can have any big improvement. Things didn't go our way in early season, but it cannot be used as excuse again in the latter part of the season, when we were outplayed by Leverkusen and Arsenal.</strong><hr></blockquote>

OK, a great team can't go bad in just a year isn't it?. There are times also this year that the lads played the best match we ever seen.

However, at times the lads makes silly mistakes here and there which ultimately got punished for it. (previously the players got slacks also during the game but fortunately or unfortunately we are not punished)

The main reason IMO for these silly mistakes is that maybe of the new systems which was employed by SAF which I believe is very innovative and more useful to european match. The players haven't have any time to really adjust to playing that way (when they really do...something will pop up- i.e. players injured). Basically most of our players got injured one way or another. If not do you think we would be able to push the momentum towards the end.? Yes I do.

And during the early season, with SAF retirement hanging on everyone mind also affected the playing conditions (new manager will ultimately sell players or bring in new ones). The motivation is not there. (imagine that you realised that you'll have a new manager coming... what would you think?..)

Therefore, my opinion is that give them time, one more year and see what the lads can do. Patience is important. It's not that we are relegated now.
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Originally posted by pjaya:
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OK, a great team can't go bad in just a year isn't it?. There are times also this year that the lads played the best match we ever seen.

However, at times the lads makes silly mistakes here and there which ultimately got punished for it. (previously the players got slacks also during the game but fortunately or unfortunately we are not punished)

The main reason IMO for these silly mistakes is that maybe of the new systems which was employed by SAF which I believe is very innovative and more useful to european match. The players haven't have any time to really adjust to playing that way (when they really do...something will pop up- i.e. players injured). Basically most of our players got injured one way or another. If not do you think we would be able to push the momentum towards the end.? Yes I do.

And during the early season, with SAF retirement hanging on everyone mind also affected the playing conditions (new manager will ultimately sell players or bring in new ones). The motivation is not there. (imagine that you realised that you'll have a new manager coming... what would you think?..)

Therefore, my opinion is that give them time, one more year and see what the lads can do. Patience is important. It's not that we are relegated now.</strong><hr></blockquote>

When we see the problem, we should correct it asap, rather than leave it there and see if they somehow can fix themselves.

Some problem is obvious even before this season. Our defence has not been good enough for at least two seasons now. This season it got more serious. Besides, we also haven't got enough replacment after the left of Sheri, Cole and Yorke (well, I mean the real Yorke. That Yorke still in our club is a fake one....)

All these problems are obvious now, fix it asap can only be benefical to us.
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Originally posted by edmund:
<strong>IMO let giggs play in the hole then get Damien Duff to play left wing...its even better when you consider how dynamic this is cos Duff and Giggs can switch and it'll drive any defence bonkers...
Then as for the defence...Tudor and Thuram would be a really scary backline (can you say brick wall) and (although hardly possible)throw in Carr/Finnan and Bridge...</strong><hr></blockquote>

Sounds good .. but it has already been quite confirm that it's all bollocks when reports said he's going opposite direction with Yorkie ... There have in fact no mention at all abt Duff during the query of Yorkie ..
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The key has to be suring up the defence, its not like we struggled to score this season.

I would like to see Hofland and Thuram arrive and maybe Finnan too, plus we need cover in midfield for Becks and Giggs. Duff would provide a great opportunity to switch Giggs around a bit as both can play off the strikers.

Who to buy to cover Becks though?? Kieron Dyer is the only player i can think of who can play down the right to a high level. I doubt Newc. would sell him though.
 
Originally posted by uranushk1:
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Besides, we also haven't got enough replacment after the left of Sheri, Cole and Yorke (well, I mean the real Yorke. That Yorke still in our club is a fake one....)
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We have to fix it no doubt, by promoting our reserved and youth team. Big gamble? Yes and it will be a worthwhile-risk taking in my opinion.

SAF have take these gamble before. Remember how he promoted giggs, beckham, scholes, butt and neville bros. during the 90's?

Which it's why I don't really agreed to raiding the market with the intention of getting the Thurams' type of player. Yes they are good definately but again if he fumble in the first season the what are United going to do? Buy again?
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Originally posted by pjaya:
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We have to fix it no doubt, by promoting our reserved and youth team. Big gamble? Yes and it will be a worthwhile-risk taking in my opinion.

SAF have take these gamble before. Remember how he promoted giggs, beckham, scholes, butt and neville bros. during the 90's?

Which it's why I don't really agreed to raiding the market with the intention of getting the Thurams' type of player. Yes they are good definately but again if he fumble in the first season the what are United going to do? Buy again?</strong><hr></blockquote>

And who in the reserves and youth teams do you think are good enough to make the grade in the first team?
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Originally posted by lchk:
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And who in the reserves and youth teams do you think are good enough to make the grade in the first team?</strong><hr></blockquote>


Djordjic, Stewart, Webber and Clegg.
Though not much information of them at this moment. As you know it's quite difficult to get information here. (kat Malaysia, btw awak malay atau cina?)
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Originally posted by pjaya:
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Djordjic, Stewart, Webber and Clegg.
Though not much information of them at this moment. As you know it's quite difficult to get information here. (kat Malaysia, btw awak malay atau cina?)</strong><hr></blockquote>

We all live outside England. Even the English fans themselves who have watched some reserve matches didn't have any mention that Webber, Clegg are good enough to get promoted. I just wonder why you are so confident that these reserves are good enough to play in first team. If I guess, I guess these players are just the same level as Greening or Mark Wilson. The reasoning is: We all saw Chadwick played and know his standard. If the reserves you mentioned are better than Chadwick, Fergie should already have let them play a few matches in first team this season. So it is very likely that those reserves are not as good as Chadwick. So are they good enough to get into the first team?
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Originally posted by pjaya:
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Djordjic, Stewart, Webber and Clegg.
Though not much information of them at this moment. As you know it's quite difficult to get information here. (kat Malaysia, btw awak malay atau cina?)</strong><hr></blockquote>

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Originally posted by uranushk1:
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We all live outside England. Even the English fans themselves who have watched some reserve matches didn't have any mention that Webber, Clegg are good enough to get promoted. I just wonder why you are so confident that these reserves are good enough to play in first team. If I guess, I guess these players are just the same level as Greening or Mark Wilson. The reasoning is: We all saw Chadwick played and know his standard. If the reserves you mentioned are better than Chadwick, Fergie should already have let them play a few matches in first team this season. So it is very likely that those reserves are not as good as Chadwick. So are they good enough to get into the first team?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Maybe they are not good enough for the first team but that doesn't mean they can't play well (correct me if I'm wrong here). What I meant is slowly intergretes(sp?) them to the senior squad which I believe is not really harmful.
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In the past few years some of our most successful buys have been little known players who became big at OT.

Schmikes, Ole, Irwin, Johnsen...

Spending a fortune isn't necessarily the answer.
 
Who will leave?
Yorke, Irwin, Johnsen, VDG, Wallwork etc etc. We know they're leaving.
Most importantly, Fergie is going to shake up the team, ie by selling a big name. I personally think this is going to come from the midfield, and its going to be either Scholes or Veron, with Scholes being the most likely candidate. I know he has been in United since the youth team and been part of the team since god know's how long but that's the whole point of shaking up a team. Fergie is too stubborn to sell Veron, he won't let him go until he shows his true class.

Who's Coming in?
Interesting what the papers say this morning: Nesta, Crespo and Thuram all to sign. If Fergie does not want to buy a striker, he would have to find a perfect player to play in the "hole" behind RVN. With either Scholes or Veron gone this would be possible. Rivaldo has become available, but he has knee problems. Totti is a wicked player but impossible to yank from Roma. What about Ariel Ortega??
 
Originally posted by Nix:
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If Fergie does not want to buy a striker, he would have to find a perfect player to play in the "hole" behind RVN. With either Scholes or Veron gone this would be possible. Rivaldo has become available, but he has knee problems. Totti is a wicked player but impossible to yank from Roma. What about Ariel Ortega??</strong><hr></blockquote>

Teddy Sheringham? ;)

Fair enough - but I hope it's only an option for certain games, otherwise we'll have not learnt anything from this year.

Fact: We won the PL for the last two seasons at a canter.

Fact: This season by playing 4-5-1/4-4-1-1, we lost the league by ten points and only progressed one step further in the CL.
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To leave - Johnsen :( , Irwin, and Rai (also :( )as we know.

Plus Yorke, Wallwork, Chadwick. Probably May, and maybe Fortune.

If Veron goes, I think we'll bring in one striker, bring one thru from the reserves, and use Forlan in midfield.
 
I think we should get Joe Cole.
Get a pacy forward like Ronaldo.
 
Each summer I waste my time working out how to improve the first eleven. I rate the players in order of importance. This time last year my views were :-
Irreplaceable Bartez,Stam, Beckham, Giggs, Keane and the recently signed Van Nistelrooy.
Selling any of these weakened the side regardless of the replacement.
7th most important Scholes (Could have been on the irreplaceable list but I felt I should keep one midfield spot available) 8th Cole, 9th Neville 10th Silvestre 11th Brown. Silvestre was much improved and Brown had great potential. I would have been quite happy to keep both.

Now:-Irreplaceable Beckham, Giggs, Keane, Van Nistelrooy and Scholes/Veron. 6th most important Solksjaar 7th Bartez, 8th Silvestre, 9th Neville, 10th Wes Brown 11th Blanc. Perhaps unfair on our best defender, but he probably has one more year only.

We have slipped badly in the last year, particularly in defence. We need two top class players (ideally of Ayala, Canevarro,Nesta, Thuram standard. Will accept Bridge, Finnane,Hofland).

Also fourth forward required. Have lost proven players Cole and Yorke replaced by promising Forlan.

Back up required for Giggs (Fortune going due to lack of international appearances)?

Arsenal and, to a lesser extent, Liverpool have progressed particularly with squad depth. We must strengthen IMMEDIATELY or fail to compete in England - forget the Champions League. Developing youngsters takes time (U17, U19, Reserves, loan to Preston., Antwerp, periferal role in squad and so on) You cannot throw them into the first team and expect success unless they are exceptionally gifted like Beckham, Scholes and co. The current crop aren't the 'once in thirty years dream team'.

Signing Veron was meant to show that we had left the Arse and the Scouse behind and our rivals were Real Madrid, Bayern and the top Italians etc. This is where we should set our sights.

Sorry about the long rant.
 
Originally posted by dicko:
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Now:-Irreplaceable Beckham, Giggs, Keane, Van Nistelrooy and Scholes/Veron. 6th most important Solksjaar


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Simple question. Who was more valuable to the team this season - Veron or Solskjaer.
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Ole would move out of the first eleven if we signed someone like Crespo. I rated him as our sixth most important player. Clearly we should keep him. Last year I was happy to keep the full eleven (although hoping to sign Sol Campbell). This year we MUST buy and the players to be replaced are in defence or squad players.

I deliberately linked Scholes with Veron because I can't see us selling both. If one does go (hope not) then the other is more or less guaranteed a starting spot at the start of the season.
 
Originally posted by dicko:
<strong>Ole would move out of the first eleven if we signed someone like Crespo. I rated him as our sixth most important player.
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Sixth after who. I think he played a more important part than Giggs this year, was equally as important as Beckham, and his strike rate was as good - better at one point - than Ruud. He also had a better season than Scholes.
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I'm pleased to see Ole has this level of support. He has been great for the club. He doesn't complain about poor treatment, Cole and Yorke would not have put up with what he has. He's just bided his time until he got a proper chance and has proven what many thought all along - he's a bloody good striker.
If a player is rated as sixth most important he should stay unless you get rid of more than half the team.
The point I was trying to make is last year our least important player (imo) was one of the most promising defenders in the country and no changes were needed. However, Wes has not progressed as hoped, Jaap has been replaced by Laurent (who might not be back), Fab is probably no longer the best in the world. This would be okay except Arsenal and Liverpool have progressed. We need to fix the defence now if we want to win the league.
 
ole stays but will be pushed by kliuvert at striker. which will make 3. maybe webber as 4th. forlan to mf maybe on the wing. ayala and finnian will do nicely - which will give GN an opportunity to play at cb and rb. give o'shea and brown time in back 4.

we have a great foursome of cmf. one would have to go or so it would seem.
 
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