Jens : two things
I think Giggs although a greta talent on the biggest of stages often lacks bottle . I know you can point to great goals ets here and there BUT I stand by that .
Liverpool . Mmmmm.... they are much more difficult to beat than yous .
To be honest I could write a book about your question .
The very ethics of 'winning ' are thrown into the arena with this .
I watched George Graham give us a winning team PL's etc and half way through his reign I could'nt bare to watch it anymore , it was dreadful . As a club supporter you can feel great pride about victories and trophies but and I know I am unusual in this I am football lover first and close run Gooner second .
To be able to mix fantastic players playing brilliantly and delivering the prizes is the ultimate . And I think we could agree that both Man Utd and the Arse have achieved this over recent years .
Football for me is a beautiful game ( Brazil 70 the greatest of all )and when I watched GG's Arsenal side I was proud but a little embarrassed too to be honest . Liverpool now are going that way .
This is not to say that their tactics are not as difficult to execute as anything else - hence their laying in wait at the cup final last year when Owen mugged us with those two goals . Many say that's luck but defending is an art of course and to be able to take your only chance requires as much skill as anything else in the game
JAMMY BASTARDS
Trophies or beautiful football - you makes your choice .
To watch your side or us in full flow is just a wonder to behold and IMO worth more than a trophy won by a dogged season of 1-0 scraped away wins and 15 draws .
Don't get me wrong - Liverpool are a very very good side but ultimately in the crunch they revert to "go-one then beat us - you'll make some mistakes in trying - then we'll do you "!
That's not for me . I don't know if you remeber Swindon from what 6/7 seasons back . (I live in Wiltshire so they are near to me ).
They came up and played some would say , the most stupid football you could see . Every match they played had at least five goals in it and most 6 / 7 !! Normaly they lost 4/5-2 !! . Almost every game was like Tottnumb v Manutd . It was incredible to watch . EVERY game was fantastic .
Of course they went down like a lump of cement out of the sky ! BUT I can tell you the pride people round here feel from mixing it with the big boys , playing fantastic attacking football and producing wonderful games is amazing !
They felt as much pride about that as my GGraham side winning the PL . Truly
That ( Swindon)actually taught me something about football .
A great game does not have to be played by great sides - just the right attitude .
I won't go on all day although I could .
BUT give me watching Man Utd any day over Liverpool .
How would you feel if Man Utd won nothing but played as they do BUT Liverpool swept all before them year after year ??
