Steve McClaren

TOD

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I'm beginning to wonder if our real problem is that we don't have him any more. :rolleyes:
 
It is highly possible IMO, he's doing a great job at Boro at the moment... the man's got dynamic views of today's game and he has learnt how to command respect from SAF.

I think he makes a very capable manager and would love to see him back at United some day.

I am not disrespecting SAF in anyway, but he has worked with the same club for 15 years and that could have caused him to lag behind on the dimensions of today's games. In 3 years when SAF step down it will be just about the right time. If he still wants to work I feel it will be better for SAF to work with some lower clubs who needs his experience.

Maybe he's at the level where Peter Schmikes was when he retired from United... not able enough to handle the pressure of today's football... any opinions?
 
Form is temporary class is permanent see how long McClarens form lasts I would say till boro get some injuries. If he can cope with them then he'll be a class manager!!!
 
Originally posted by Stick:
<strong>Form is temporary class is permanent see how long McClarens form lasts I would say till boro get some injuries. If he can cope with them then he'll be a class manager!!!</strong><hr></blockquote>

correct - they haven't played anyone good yet either don't forget
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Originally posted by TOD:
<strong>I'm beginning to wonder if our real problem is that we don't have him any more. :rolleyes: </strong><hr></blockquote>

I've asked myself the same question several times... He's a GREAT coach/assistant mngr/manager! It didn't help us much when he decided to leave, that's for sure. But it looks like we got things rolling these days! <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" />
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Think he may return in 3 years with much need managerial experience and would be ideal to take over from AF
 
Originally posted by Stick:
<strong>Think he may return in 3 years with much need managerial experience and would be ideal to take over from AF</strong><hr></blockquote>

Shame they couldn't see his value before he went elsewhere and added to the problems we've had since his departure.
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Steve McLaren is a very able football man, but we were great before him, great with him and will be great without him.

I think some people are just looking for easy excuses. 'Our problem is our assistant manager left!'. Come on, thats ridiculous.

But what can I say, some people thought Quieroz was to blame for the early season results.
 
MCClaren seems to be a very good coach and to have what it takes in management. I was sad to see him leave because I felt that he should have been given the chance to take over. But as for his departure being a reason for decline... isn't this the old " Fergie knows nowt about tactics and relies on a good assistant argument/" I seem to recall a number of wisemen predicting the end of our glory years when Kiddo left because he.. apparently was the real reason for our success.
 
Originally posted by jraby:
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Shame they couldn't see his value before he went elsewhere and added to the problems we've had since his departure.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Can't really blame the club for him going. Fergie had announced he was going to retire and Mclaren (boro success notwithstanding) was not ready to take over at that time. He didn't want to sit around as a "lame duck" appointment - and in the long run if Utd wanted to sign him as Fergie's replacement he run over to OT quicker than a curry out of a drunk's bum.
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Originally posted by Red99:
<strong>MCClaren seems to be a very good coach and to have what it takes in management. I was sad to see him leave because I felt that he should have been given the chance to take over. But as for his departure being a reason for decline... isn't this the old " Fergie knows nowt about tactics and relies on a good assistant argument/" I seem to recall a number of wisemen predicting the end of our glory years when Kiddo left because he.. apparently was the real reason for our success.</strong><hr></blockquote>

kiddo was never going to take us to win the ECC. he was good for the league... not for europe... remember when McClaren came we didn't lose 33 games in a row and then won the ECC? That was pure class.
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McClaren is an excellent coach but our current AM is also very good. If McClaren was still with us last season he might have helped a bit but I don't think he could stop those silly mistakes made by Brown and Barthez, nor stop Fergie from buying the wrong player or using the wrong tactic.
 
Originally posted by uranushk1:
<strong>McClaren is an excellent coach but our current AM is also very good. If McClaren was still with us last season he might have helped a bit but I don't think he could stop those silly mistakes made by Brown and Barthez, nor stop Fergie from buying the wrong player or using the wrong tactic.</strong><hr></blockquote>

As far as those last comments are concerned, do you see that as last season's aberrations only or a sign of a deeper, on going malaise, which could affect our chances in the next couple of seasons?
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Originally posted by oscar74:
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Can't really blame the club for him going. Fergie had announced he was going to retire and Mclaren (boro success notwithstanding) was not ready to take over at that time. He didn't want to sit around as a "lame duck" appointment - and in the long run if Utd wanted to sign him as Fergie's replacement he run over to OT quicker than a curry out of a drunk's bum.</strong><hr></blockquote>
McClaren was Alex's choice of successor, but the board didn't agree, so Alex gave Steve his blessing to get some management experience at boro first, I'm sure with the intention that he'll succeed Alex when he does retire - just as Robson was similarly farmed out - but sadly didn't make the grade (though he did well reaching two cup finals and undoubtedly kickstarted that club).
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Originally posted by RUnited:
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kiddo was never going to take us to win the ECC. he was good for the league... not for europe... remember when McClaren came we didn't lose 33 games in a row and then won the ECC? That was pure class.</strong><hr></blockquote>

We started that run a month and a half or so before he came. Then we went two years without reaching the same terrific heights again...
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Originally posted by Amir:
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We started that run a month and a half or so before he came. Then we went two years without reaching the same terrific heights again...</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yes but Mclaren was great for the players - improved their fitness and sharpness. we were already a great team and he made us better - there is no doubt that his absence was one of the major influsences over last seasons poor start.
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Originally posted by oscar74:
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Yes but Mclaren was great for the players - improved their fitness and sharpness. we were already a great team and he made us better - there is no doubt that his absence was one of the major influsences over last seasons poor start.</strong><hr></blockquote>

As football is not an exact science, of cource there is doubt.
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Originally posted by Gazza:
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and won. ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

Barely. It was one of our lucky wins.

We showed anyhow that there was life after Roy Keane. Eventhough we went on to lose 2 more games on the trot, we are now back stronly and on a winning streak.

I still feel McClaren will help us get there one more time. I sure don't want it to be another 27 years without a title.
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I was very sad to see Mclaren go, he would most certainly have been my choice to suceed SAF, it was sad the board wouldnt let him have a go at the job, even more so if he was Fergies choice, the great man should know what he is doing and im sure he wouldnt suggest Mclaren if he didnt think he could do it.

I would love to see him back at the club in a few years time, as for Quieroz lets give the guy a chance, he comes from a great background and with great experience, esp with youngsters.
 
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