Stella Artois - A look at the future British players

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Bloomfield did Okay against Gonzalez. But I wouldn't be holding out for him too much he should be winning that match on grass.

Why I am I talking about him?? Because he trashed Alex Bogdanovic in youth Tennis and was a future light for the game.

Withstanding Murray - Sadly I think the game is lightyears away from discovering someone of real talent
 
Nadal is playing very well on the grass today. If he can show the same improvement on grass as he did this year on the clay, then he may give Federer more of a challenge than a lot of people(myself included) would have thought.
 
Nadal is playing very well on the grass today. If he can show the same improvement on grass as he did this year on the clay, then he may give Federer more of a challenge than a lot of people(myself included) would have thought.

To be honest he wasn't too far off last year. Federer just played the big pressure points well. I remember Nadal having quite a few break pts in that final set.
 
Novak Djokovic, fantastic player. Really enjoy watching him play.
 
Roddick did alright today. Tough game back after back injury and played well on grass. Nowhere near the standard required to win at wimbledon, but will at least get to 1/4's I'd say
 
Roddick did alright today. Tough game back after back injury and played well on grass. Nowhere near the standard required to win at wimbledon, but will at least get to 1/4's I'd say

I've always liked Roddick. Seems like a cool guy, and he's pretty entertaining on court. Would love to see him win SW19 one day, doubt it'll happen though. His chance has come and gone.
 
Roddick is all brawn and no brains(on court). He only has Plan A-smash the ball as hard as possible. Once people start moving him around the court, he's done. The only thing that has been keeping him there or thereabouts is thats serve. Seems like an awfully nice guy though, be nice if he could pull something out of the bag.
 
Roddick is all brawn and no brains(on court). He only has Plan A-smash the ball as hard as possible. Once people start moving him around the court, he's done. The only thing that has been keeping him there or thereabouts is thats serve. Seems like an awfully nice guy though, be nice if he could pull something out of the bag.

Very true.

I was hoping Connors would be able to improve that aspect of his game, but he doesn't appear to have, and now he's gone.
 
Very true.

I was hoping Connors would be able to improve that aspect of his game, but he doesn't appear to have, and now he's gone.

Yeah, I was hoping that myself, if anyone can knock sense into someone it's Connors. The more top, competitive players there are knocking about, the better the spectacle.
 
Very true.

Do you know the reasons why him and Roddick split?

Basically Connors didn't want to travel all year, and I think Roddick is a bit fragile about his game, and needs the constant reassurance you get from a 52 weeks a year coach. I'd also heard Connors didn't think Roddick could improve much beyond where he is, and he got frustrated by Roddick abandoning game-plans they'd worked on for a long time, as soon as the going got tough(those are just rumours I'd heard though, so they may be a load of pipe) Here's an article on the split if you're interested;

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/tennis/article3499255.ece

In the end a common bond of American brashness and a reluctance to accept second best to anybody wasn’t enough to save the 21 month coaching allegiance between Andy Roddick and so many of his compatriots’ tennis idol Jimmy Connors.

Officially it was 55 year-old Connors, winner of eight Grand Slam titles, who decided the things had reached the end of the road with the 25 year-old world no.6. But both men had come to realise the relationship was no longer truly viable because of Connor’s reluctance to travel.

Much of his advice was offered over the telephone with Roddick’s elder brother John taking over the role of coach. After winning through to the semi-finals of the Barclays Dubai Tennis Championships with an impressive 7-6, 6-2 win over world no.2 Rafael Nadal, Roddick revealed the split and said: “I’m just happy I was able to spend a little bit of time with such a legend.

“But communication got tough when Jimmy was not there. Maybe the match wasn’t on television. You came off the court and struggled to explain where your head was at. I think we did the mentor bit as well as we could but when I am going from Australia to Austria to California to Memphis to Dubai like I have done so far this year it becomes difficult.
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“It was as much a matter of logistics as anything and it was tough to ask him to come on the road two or three or four weeks at a time. He’s got a great family and he likes walking his dogs every morning. Plus I was keeping him away from the golf course a little bit too much. I am sad about it, as much from a personal stand point as anything. I really enjoyed my time with him.”

Connors had purposely distanced himself from the sport after retiring competitively in 1996 with his 44th birthday fast approaching. But he embraced the challenge of trying to push level back to the elite level occupied by Roger Federer and Nadal. “Maybe we didn’t get the results he wanted and it was tough for him to do it part-time but he was retired before we got together,” said Roddick.

“It’s completely amicable and we are still friends. I just have so much respect for him as a person and I’m thankful for what he was able to give to me as well as taking some time out of his retirement to spend it with me. I’m sure the phone number is still there for me if I need to bounce something off him. We’ve not talked about it but I don’t see him hanging up the receiver if I want to ask him a question. It ended up just about as well as something like this can be.”

Roddick next faces another tough assignment, a showdown with Australian Open champion Novak Djokovic who cruised through with an emphatic 6-2, 6-1 win against Russia’s Igor Andreev. And though that familiar face will not be amongst his entourage Roddick maintained he is far more accomplished player than when Connors agreed to become his coach in July 2006. “He’s got me to play a lot further up the court which means I have had to adjust my game,” he said. “He’s helped my backhand a ton. It’s a different shot than when we got together. It’s a lot more solid and of course I’ve just learned that fighting spirit.”

The pair linked together in the aftermath of Roddick’s disappointing Wimbledon third round exit against Britain’s Andy Murray – a humiliating affair that saw the former world no.1 and twice runner-up dispatched in straight sets. Within less than two months Roddick had progressed to the US Open final, winning the Masters Series crown in Cincinnati en route.

“When we got together I was as close to down and out,” said Roddick. “I spent the week after that Wimbledon as close to depressed as I have ever been as far as my career goes. I credit him with giving me that spark to get my career to get back in the top five and into a Grand Slam final pretty close there afterward.”

Roddick dismissed the suggestion that he will re-unite with his former coach Brad Gilbert (whose services has since been dispensed with by Andy Murray) as a complete impossibility. He also revealed that despite a huge respect for the guidance of US Davis Cup captain Patrick McEnroe, he will not be asking him to join his own personal group.

“I know I can call Patrick any time I want to be a sounding board but I wouldn’t ask him to be my coach because I wouldn’t do that to our team,” said Roddick who maintained the US winning the Davis Cup last December was one of the greatest moments in his playing career. “I don’t want to put that weirdness into Davis Cup weeks.

“If I’m in New York, and I have been out there a little bit, we do go out to hit. He’ll run some stuff past and offer advice but as far as travelling, he has a baby girl at home and a wife who he loves very much. He’s set between his television commentary and the Davis Cup.”
 
If roddick was to beat Federer in any match I would have confidence in him. I think the Head to head is 14-1 in favour of Federer.

When you get to so many semi's and finals surely that ways heavily on him. A win against Fed on Grass would turn his game around, and a win in The Artois might be just the ticket.

Cann't see it, would need Fed to be in third gear thoughout and not be able to return his serve
 
If roddick was to beast Federer in any match I would have confidence in him. I think teh Head to head is 14-1 in favour of Federer.

When you get to so many semi's and finals surely that ways heavily on him. A win against Fed on Grass would turn his game around, and a win in The Artois might be just the ticket.

Cann't see it, would need Fed to be in third gear thoughout and not be able to return his serve

Roddick's serve has never been a problem for Federer because he is one of the players that favours blocking the first serve back, rather than trying to do anything intricate with it. IF Roddick could develop a serve-volley game, he might have a chance, but having seen him at net, he has no hands whatsoever. I've seen a more delicate touch from a wall.:)
 
could have been bad injury there for Murray. Does not look too bad now.

Gulbis is definitly a player for the future.
 
Murray out.

Is it fair on players like Roddick etc?

I know he gets a bye for it, but surely all players will want the proper games before Wimbledon?

That's basically 2 rounds of bye's Roddick's had :p

Suppose he has little chance of winning Wimbledon anyway, but everyone always pulls out of this tournament with the TINIEST injury. I guess Murray knew he would lose to Roddick anyway, fit or not.
 
Djorkovic is a special player.

Future World Number 1 imo.
 
Well Lads.

We all seem to admire and hate Roddick. Big match for him against Nadal today.

I fancy him.
 
i fecking love roddick, but missed the match today. although he lost.. how did he look?
 
I love watching tennis. But I fecking hate Federer, Nadal, and Djokovic. All cnuts. It really is hard to watch sometimes :(

The thing is, that's a load of crap, as all three of the players you have named are actually incredibly nice guys, and certainly not 'cnuts'.
 
Definitely a golden era of tennis now that Djokovis is able to challenge. Nadal today was awesome. BBC did a great piece before the match on his return of serve compared to French. Sitting 3 meters behind base line for French and inside base line for stella. Also his forearm to Roddick's forearm was amazing. Found out a weakness and hit it all day. Roddick could do nothing. Cann't see Roddick do anything at Wimbledon not. Fancy the big three to all make semi's without fail.

All we need now is Murray to come good.
 
The thing is, that's a load of crap, as all three of the players you have named are actually incredibly nice guys, and certainly not 'cnuts'.

Is true. They are probably three of the most well-liked players on players on the circuit, and each of them is, or will be, on the player's council this year.

Nadal told a story about how after he lost his first Wimbledon final, he was feeling pretty gutted, and was at some banquet/ball for the finalists. Federer swapped seats with someone to sit beside Nadal, and he and Federer ended up spending the night chatting about football(and women apparently). He said tennis wasn't mentioned once. Hard to see how anyone can dislike Federer.

Nadal's coach has also said that Roger is like a big brother to Rafa on circuit, and always brings him out with his mates etc when they have down time. That's a pretty decent way to behave towards someone who is, professionally at least, the enemy.
 
This really is a mouthwatering final...

I'll be supporting Novak.
 
Cracking match.

Nadal takes the first set on a tie-break.
 
Some of the tennis being played by both players, is out of this world.
 
It's all over. Nadal wins in two sets 7-6 7-5

I haven't enjoyed a match as much for a while. Some fabulous Tennis from both players, and the result could quite easily have gone the other way.

No doubt about it, Djorkovic will be a major threat at Wimbledon.
 
Didn't get to see the match, unfortunately(damn father's day). How did you rate Nadal on today's performance, Sam? Did he boss the match, or was it a genuinely tight game? Do you think Nadal has improved on last year's grass showing? Do you reckon he could beat Roger on grass yet?
 
Didn't get to see the match, unfortunately(damn father's day). How did you rate Nadal on today's performance, Sam? Did he boss the match, or was it a genuinely tight game? Do you think Nadal has improved on last year's grass showing? Do you reckon he could beat Roger on grass yet?

He started off well, had break points in the first game, then fell apart. Novak had three break points for a 4-0 lead, and looked in cruise control, but he missed them all, and Nadal kicked on from there. Took the first set on a close tie break. Could really have gone either way realy.

Second set looked like Novak had thrown in the towel, but then he started to get it together, and get back into it. Both players were playing some amazing tennis, was a joy to watch.

Nadal has certainly improved on the Grass, and imo can beat Federer on it, and tbh, I also think Djorkovic can. Will be a very close Wimbledon this year. One of Federer, Nadal and Djorkovic will win. I may put a tenner on Novak. Hoping that the other two meet each other, then Novak faces the winner in the final.
 
Are they?

Feck. Might need to re-think my bet now.

I have a vague recollection of that being the case. Roger will be seeded #1(good reason for you to put your money on him right there), and Rafa, I presume, will be #2. Djokovic being #3 will be on Roger's side methinks, although I stand to be corrected on that.
 
I have a vague recollection of that being the case. Roger will be seeded #1(good reason for you to put your money on him right there), and Rafa, I presume, will be #2. Djokovic being #3 will be on Roger's side methinks, although I stand to be corrected on that.

Hmmm, I may have to change my strategy, me thinks. Then again, I still have a sneaky suspicion Djorkovic can do it, he's quality. Would probably be worth a tenner.

By the way, Roger won his Grass court tournament with ease.
 
I have a vague recollection of that being the case. Roger will be seeded #1(good reason for you to put your money on him right there), and Rafa, I presume, will be #2. Djokovic being #3 will be on Roger's side methinks, although I stand to be corrected on that.

Whilst watching Queen's today, they were saying how Federer and Nadal certainly won't want to be on Djokovic's side of the draw. So I get the impression it isn't pre-determined by their respective seeds.
 
I could be wrong but I think all the uneven numbered seeds are on one side, with the even numbers on the other side. It just depends where Djokovic is seeded, presuming Roger and Rafa will be #1 & 2. As I said though, I may be way off.