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Stam the victim of Ferguson vendetta

Tuesday 4th December 2001

Lazio defender Jaap Stam has claimed he was "ruthlessly brushed aside" by Sir Alex Ferguson, whom he accused of putting Manchester United's business before the team in his sale.

"Everything revolves around one thing – money. Honesty is nowhere in sight," said the Dutchman.

Stam's comments appear in the updated version of his autobiography, the intial publication of which many believe caused Stam to be sold to Lazio.

And the Dutchman is convinced that is the case. He said: "Two weeks after the book was published, my wonderful time at a club I really loved had come to an abrupt end. I was having a fantastic time at United, but was pushed aside just like that.

"Was it just the book, or did they need the money now that they already had a replacement who was - in their eyes - of similar quality? I really do not know. What I do know is that three perfect years had been wiped out and that Ferguson had lost all faith in me.

"Of course I could have played hardball and have refused to co-operate. But then I would have had to see out the rest of my four-year contract on the bench, hoping for a substitution.

"My situation proved that if a club wants to get rid of you, you are powerless. The only thing you can do is watch while the club sells you like a piece of cattle.

"These are the moments you suddenly realise what a small, narrow-minded business this really is. Everything revolves around one thing - money. It's that simple. You think you're at a fantastic club with decent people and a nice atmosphere, a club you would never want to leave. But when push comes to shove, you are ruthlessly brushed aside. Honesty is nowhere in sight, contracts have no meaning.

"There were moments I wished I had never written this book. Just before we departed for our training camp for the tough away game at Aston Villa, I therefore approached Ferguson for a talk.

"He was on the phone when I entered his little office at the training ground and he was startled when he saw me. Minutes later he told me that United had put me on the transfer list and that they had even already accepted a bid from a foreign club. I could not believe my ears.

"I had been with United for three years and, apart from the four months I had been out with injury and a few suspensions, I had been in the first team for almost every game. I had also been voted the best defender in Europe twice.

"Six months earlier Ferguson had named me in his United team of the Century. I had never had a complaint and now I could do nothing right. While I looked at him with disbelief, he said I'd never fully recovered from my injury to the Achilles' tendon.

"He said he was very sorry, but that he could no longer use my services. He wanted to move on with Wes Brown, the big talent in the United defence. And alongside Brown he had signed an experienced hand in Laurent Blanc. The humiliation could not have been bigger. At 29, I had been an automatic choice in both United and the Dutch national side, and now I was considered too inexperienced and pushed aside for a 35-year-old Frenchman."

"The fact that I still had a contract until 2005 was suddenly of no importance whatsoever, because the club clearly wanted to get rid of me. Without me knowing anything about it, they had already sold me.

"Two weeks after the book was published, my wonderful time at a club I really loved had come to an abrupt end. I was having a fantastic time at United, but was pushed aside just like that."

Since his sale, Stam put in some impressive performances for Lazio before failing two drugs tests for nandrolone. He is currently banned from playing.


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I guess the distinguishing factor would be if United knew that Jaap's tests were positive. That would certainly and rationaly explain the sudden transfer. There's a push to get these types of tests to be more stringent in England, on a similar level to what they are in Italy. It's suspicious that most positive tests are happening in Italy and some on Spain, but seemingly none elsewhere. As for Stam, I hope we sold him because we knew about a positive test for nandralone - otherwise if it was a Fergie vendetta then I would be disappointed.
 
Originally posted by Raoul:
<strong> As for Stam, I hope we sold him because we knew about a positive test for nandralone - otherwise if it was a Fergie vendetta then I would be disappointed.</strong><hr></blockquote>

You hope your club deliberately defrauded another club, thereby breaking FIFA regulations and European law? If that were the case I think the penalties could be a lot worse than lying 8th in the league.
 
I agree that if this turns out to be the case then there will be legal problems for us down the road, however as a fan, I would hope that there is a legitimate reason why he was offloaded so suddenly and unceremoniously.
 
Though one could argue that it was Lazio's responsibility to conduct a thorough physical examination and drug screening before proceeding with the finalization of the deal.
 
Drug screening? At the risk of offending the player honorability, if things keep going this way we'll end up like this. Anyway, how about being a little more serious on drug test up there in UK? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
 
Originally posted by Raoul:
<strong>I agree that if this turns out to be the case then there will be legal problems for us down the road, however as a fan, I would hope that there is a legitimate reason why he was offloaded so suddenly and unceremoniously.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Fair point. At least there would have been some reason for it then I suppose rather than the alleged 'footballing reasons'.

I thought that sale was madness at the time, at least this would mean there was some sense to it. Not that it might be any better for you club in the long term
 
Originally posted by Piersifal:
<strong>Drug screening? At the risk of offending the player honorability, if things keep going this way we'll end up like this. Anyway, how about being a little more serious on drug test up there in UK? :confused: </strong><hr></blockquote>

I find the results in Italy a little strange as they seem to be the only picking these things up - dont UEFA carry out tests after european games as well? (I remember a few of our players were given the all clear by UEFA around the time DeBoer and Davids were done)
 
You know what? I was sad to see Stam go initially but now, I'm glad he's gone. He just can't drop this and move on. Every week there is a new gripe coming from Rome and he's turning out to be the biggest crybaby of the year. Let it go man .....
 
Your right,maybe they should make the tests harder 2 pass.

StamDrugs.gif
 
<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
I should be bitter because he's our player, but that pic is too funny!
 
Originally posted by True Treble Reds:
<strong>You know what? I was sad to see Stam go initially but now, I'm glad he's gone. He just can't drop this and move on. Every week there is a new gripe coming from Rome and he's turning out to be the biggest crybaby of the year. Let it go man .....</strong><hr></blockquote>

Shows he was hurt and cared about playing for United imo. Also shows he felt he was treated badly. Human nature to not let it go if you're passionate about something.
 
Originally posted by Livvie20:
<strong>Shows he was hurt and cared about playing for United imo. Also shows he felt he was treated badly. Human nature to not let it go if you're passionate about something.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Agreed Livvie, but to splash it all over the press then 'update' his autobiography? Overkill IMO
 
Originally posted by True Treble Reds:
<strong>
Agreed Livvie, but to splash it all over the press then 'update' his autobiography? Overkill IMO</strong><hr></blockquote>

I think the people who make the most fuss are those who have/believe they have been treated unfairly.
 
Originally posted by Livvie20:
<strong>

I think the people who make the most fuss are those who have/believe they have been treated unfairly.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I thought it sucked and smelt of BS when he was 'essentially' fired. But, that doesn't change the fact that it was over 3 months ago ... He's a grown-up and needs to let it go, simple as that.

In his defence though, I bet he's very emotional right now due to the drugs thing. His advisors need to smarten up and keep him out of the limelight for a while. When you are facing allegations of illegalities, the spotlight is not the best place to be. Having said that, he probably has the same advisors that OK'd the book! :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by Suedesi:
<strong>
"Of course I could have played hardball and have refused to co-operate. But then I would have had to see out the rest of my four-year contract on the bench, hoping for a substitution.
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bullshit,, Fergie was leaving in 9 months and we were short of cover so he would have definetly gotten a chance to come in and keep his place,
and if not make a fresh start in July 2002,

Updating his book! Does he never learn. <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" />
 
Originally posted by Suedesi:
<strong>Stam the victim of Ferguson vendetta
"Of course I could have played hardball and have refused to co-operate. But then I would have had to see out the rest of my four-year contract on the bench, hoping for a substitution.

"My situation proved that if a club wants to get rid of you, you are powerless. The only thing you can do is watch while the club sells you like a piece of cattle.

"These are the moments you suddenly realise what a small, narrow-minded business this really is. Everything revolves around one thing - money. It's that simple. You think you're at a fantastic club with decent people and a nice atmosphere, a club you would never want to leave. But when push comes to shove, you are ruthlessly brushed aside. Honesty is nowhere in sight, contracts have no meaning.
</strong><hr></blockquote>

I just wish Stam would move on or at least learn to shut the feck up. He was on a ludicrous salary for playing a game he loves, all our players are and good luck to 'em.

For whatever reason (debated far too long, wait for Fergie's book I suppose) he was sold on and will have taken a sizeable signing on fee with him and retained his salary.

Given the current economic climate with people being laid off left, right and centre with dire prospects of new work and often little or no pay off can he not see that his constant dripping is likely to show him up for the self centred, whining tw@ he is. Shut up while you retain some credibility Jaap. :mad: