I would just like to know why it is that Man Utd always seem to miss out on all the great deals. Just yesterday Barca got Jardel for 3 million and earlier on signed Riquelme for 4 million. Inter signed Cannavaro for 10 million. Last year Liverpool signed Riise for about 3-5 million. Also Arsenal hardly paid anything for Henry, Vieira, and Pires and got Campbell on a free. In the last two years we have spent about 85 mil on just 4 players. I know we are a very rich club but that does not mean just throw your money around. Our scouts are clearly not doing their job properly because by the time we get the player we are paying 2-3 times what we should. I can go on and on naming great deals we have missed out on but there is no point as nothing can be done now. If we are to keep spending heavily then why not take a page out of Reals book and by the Worlds best players every year. Figo, Zidane, and now apparently Ronaldo in the very near future. United must stop throwing money around and look for good deals.
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I reckon mainly cause United don't go after a lot of players, and when they do, they're usually lesser known players, who can fit into the squad in a certain way. Last couple of seasons, ok, we got Rio, RVN and JSV for exspenive money cause they brough tremendous talent. But the smaller signings Fergie has made have been subtle buys afetr good strong players who fit into a particular role. Not neccesarily for the big name player, but the player who fits the role.
Buying for the squad, not for the player.
Buying for the squad, not for the player.
Originally posted by El Diego:
<strong>I would just like to know why it is that Man Utd always seem to miss out on all the great deals. Just yesterday Barca got Jardel for 3 million and earlier on signed Riquelme for 4 million. Inter signed Cannavaro for 10 million. Last year Liverpool signed Riise for about 3-5 million. Also Arsenal hardly paid anything for Henry, Vieira, and Pires and got Campbell on a free. In the last two years we have spent about 85 mil on just 4 players. I know we are a very rich club but that does not mean just throw your money around. Our scouts are clearly not doing their job properly because by the time we get the player we are paying 2-3 times what we should. I can go on and on naming great deals we have missed out on but there is no point as nothing can be done now. If we are to keep spending heavily then why not take a page out of Reals book and by the Worlds best players every year. Figo, Zidane, and now apparently Ronaldo in the very near future. United must stop throwing money around and look for good deals.</strong><hr></blockquote>
8 posts and you have taken 2 or 3 swipes at Forlan. Are you a scouser in disguise?
If you are, United already have a first 11 which could walk into almost any team. When we want to improve the 1st 11, we have to buy players better than what we have, therefore costing BIG money.
If we needed to buy 6 or 7 players like Liverpool to fill the squad with cover, then we'd spend much more wisely.
However, unike the pool, we take more risks with those coming through our youth system, therefore no real need to invest in non 1st-11 squad players.
If you're not a scouser, err, welcome!
it also comes down to scouting - for which MU used to find the ole's and smike's of the world. but MU always spent big - RK was expensive at the time , so was EC. birtles was too! so it has happened b4.
It wil always seem like United are getting poor deals because the clubs involved will add on a hefty percentage to the original price just because it is the worlds biggest and richest club who is interested. Our scouts arent doing enough, that much has been clear for a while, but we are taking steps to improve the system and youth systems. You cant always find a Hyppia or Vieira around the corner, and even Liverpool and Arsenal buy big once in a while - Heskey anyone ? <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
I agree about having to spend big to get big, but considering our squad should only ever need tweaking (Stam situations the exception not the rule) here and there we should have the space and time to research the top deals, and recruit the best young talent.
It does seem strange that there isnt a queue banging on the door to join us. Maybe players realise hoe hard our team works and dont think the effort is worth the silverware.
I've had a couple of beers so hopefully I'm taking paranoid bollox and just a bit on edge before the Prem start tomorrow.
Come on the boys, lets show everyone that we dont need any signings cos we're the best already
It does seem strange that there isnt a queue banging on the door to join us. Maybe players realise hoe hard our team works and dont think the effort is worth the silverware.
I've had a couple of beers so hopefully I'm taking paranoid bollox and just a bit on edge before the Prem start tomorrow.
Come on the boys, lets show everyone that we dont need any signings cos we're the best already
Henry cost Arsenal 11 million. Wasnt exactly cheap.
Although - it was a bargain when you consider Heskey was bought for about the same.
Although - it was a bargain when you consider Heskey was bought for about the same.
Henry was cheap when you figure what he is worth now
Originally posted by Marcus:
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8 posts and you have taken 2 or 3 swipes at Forlan. Are you a scouser in disguise?
If you are, United already have a first 11 which could walk into almost any team. When we want to improve the 1st 11, we have to buy players better than what we have, therefore costing BIG money.
If we needed to buy 6 or 7 players like Liverpool to fill the squad with cover, then we'd spend much more wisely.
However, unike the pool, we take more risks with those coming through our youth system, therefore no real need to invest in non 1st-11 squad players.
If you're not a scouser, err, welcome!
Relax Im no scouser. Im a United fan till the day I die. Im just pissed off on missing out on the likes of Cannavaro, Rivaldo, and Jardel. And I didn't take swipes at Forlan. In fact I think if he can just get some confidence then he can become a great goalscorer for us. All I was saying was that it doesn't hurt to have seasoned pros playing for you.
Jardel and Canavaro are way over-rated. While I think the wigner is better in spotting the cheaper talented players, I am sure Sir Alex is the better manager.
But again Forlan is going to be a Birtles or a Poborsky, I even think he will be/is worse.Before you ask,I hate the Arses and Liverpoo. <img src="graemlins/nervous.gif" border="0" alt="[Nervous]" /> <img src="graemlins/nervous.gif" border="0" alt="[Nervous]" />
But again Forlan is going to be a Birtles or a Poborsky, I even think he will be/is worse.Before you ask,I hate the Arses and Liverpoo. <img src="graemlins/nervous.gif" border="0" alt="[Nervous]" /> <img src="graemlins/nervous.gif" border="0" alt="[Nervous]" />
The Forlan/Poborsky analogy is a good one. The uneducated fans - which is most of us considering the leagues they came from - expected very different types of player in both cases. The famous Portugal goal gave a false impression of Poborsky who was a winger more in the Sharpe mould than the Kanchelskis type goal threat. He actually did his job well for us, but the fans were looking for something different.
The same is true of Forlan. He has never been a finisher, his game is more about creation and build up play and most importantly of all movement, something we lack. Judge him on his own game, not the game you'd like him to have.
The same is true of Forlan. He has never been a finisher, his game is more about creation and build up play and most importantly of all movement, something we lack. Judge him on his own game, not the game you'd like him to have.