solsjkaer or beckham?

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does anyone agree that ole is playing unbelievable on the right wing at the moment, his crossing is far better then becks this season and he also has more of a scoring threat, becks is world class but i'd prefer to keep ole there when becks gets back
 
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If SAF tells Beckham to stay there and he actually listens, there is no competition in the quality of the crosses. Ole would be fantastic on the right in a 4:3:3 there is no doubting that.
 
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
<strong>If SAF tells Beckham to stay there and he actually listens, there is no competition in the quality of the crosses. Ole would be fantastic on the right in a 4:3:3 there is no doubting that.</strong><hr></blockquote>

maybe SAF can switch Becks to the centre of the park? but then, there's Scholes, who is also playing out of his skin. Thus, i guess SAF will sacrifice Ole, which is what he always did.
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Originally posted by Dominant:
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maybe SAF can switch Becks to the centre of the park? but then, there's Scholes, who is also playing out of his skin. Thus, i guess SAF will sacrifice Ole, which is what he always did.</strong><hr></blockquote>

On form there is nobody that can cross a ball from the right like Beckham. I say stick Ole on the left and give Giggs a bloody good kick up the arse. And if Beckham is not playing well, put Ole on the right and give him a good kick up the arse.

Forlan for me is better suited to be partnered with Ruud because of his pace. And it's not because he scored today, I've said this before. I'd just like SAF to pair them for a while to see how it develops. It's a good mix, as they are totally different.

It must be said however, that Ole is one excellent football player, he almost has it all.
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Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
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I say stick Ole on the left and give Giggs a bloody good kick up the arse.


agreed. it's time giggsy needs a good kick. he have been having it easy since forever. There just dun seems to have players competing for his position ever since sharpe left, though sharpe was already in the decline, he still provides some competition. Blomqvist was supposed to be the man to do it, but after 1 fantastic season, he succumbed to his dreaded knee injury. Currently, fortune and chadwick are ones providing competition, or rather, cover. Let's hope ole will provide some quality competition.
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ermm.. but can ole cross with his left foot?
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Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
<strong>If SAF tells Beckham to stay there and he actually listens, there is no competition in the quality of the crosses. Ole would be fantastic on the right in a 4:3:3 there is no doubting that.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Agreed. Becks is the best crosser of the ball in the world. But if Becks doesn't stay on the right, drifts into the middle and is largely anonymous, who would you choose to play on the right? Personally, I'd go with Ole because he's getting the job done.

Also, if Fergie did drop Becks for a match or two, Becks might actually stay on the right, start crossing the ball again and perform like the world-class winger we all know he can be.
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Ole as RW add some predictable to us, as his crossing style is a bit different than Beckham and he can also dribble. Therefore when Beckham recovers I think SAF will not just let him walk back into the team immediately. He need to work his way back, just like what he did in the middle of last season.
 
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
<strong>If SAF tells Beckham to stay there and he actually listens, there is no competition in the quality of the crosses. Ole would be fantastic on the right in a 4:3:3 there is no doubting that.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Agreed.

The same could be said of Giggs IMO. If Giggs keep left i'm sure he can do much better than Silvestre or JOS - and also better than fitting Ole there.

It won't be fair to drop Giggs until he's shown what he's worth on his favourite wing IMO. If SAF thinks he should play center then of coz it's different story as Giggs clearly can't do it right just yet.

Altho he's captain again and i'm loving it!
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Originally posted by Red15:
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Also, if Fergie did drop Becks for a match or two, Becks might actually stay on the right, start crossing the ball again and perform like the world-class winger we all know he can be.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Though the question is whether becks is going center at his own will or is he being told by SAF to do so. It's a different thing IMO. If becks is surging into CM on his own will then i agree with you that SAF should drop him for a further 1-2 games after returning from injury.
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It's not just his crossing that's a revelation but Ole seems to get into good positions to have a crack at goal coming off that wing position. I would leave him there and Becks can sit on the bench and come on as an impact player. Obviously injuries, tactics and form will play an important part but as I've said elsewhere, none of the team who have performed so creditably in the last three games should be dropped automatically to make way for the others. That includes, when the time comes, Becks, Veron, Keane, Butt and Rio. Let them fight to get their places back.
 
I think everyone knows who my fave player in the world is.
But with Ole's recent form I dont believe it would be fair and smart of Sir Aleks to just let Becks back into the team.
Ole has been devastating on that right hand side and Becks really has to come up with some special performances to dismantle him of that place.
 
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
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On form there is nobody that can cross a ball from the right like Beckham. I say stick Ole on the left and give Giggs a bloody good kick up the arse. And if Beckham is not playing well, put Ole on the right and give him a good kick up the arse.


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Don't you think he might get sent off for that?

But however - I agree with what someone else said, that it might be an idea to keep Ole on te right, and start Becks CM. Just to see how it goes.

But altho things aren't set in stone, I tend to think of that RW spot as belonging to Beckham.

I'm sure I've seen Ole score more goals on the left, so agree that he could be tried there.

I'd still prefer to see him up front with Ruud, as I think Diego can be equally useful on the wings.
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Originally posted by Livvie20:
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Don't you think he might get sent off for that?</strong><hr></blockquote>

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I watch the last game vs Liverpool when Hyypia scored to closed the gap then Solskjaer run down to help at right, I noticed that he played great defence also. The reasons behind to explain that is his intellegence and hard effort in football as a Manchester United player. But I think he should stay as striker and let Beckham to play right wing because I like to see Becks to make more good crosses and Solskjaer to score more goals.
 
Originally posted by keano6_16:
<strong>does anyone agree that ole is playing unbelievable on the right wing at the moment, his crossing is far better then becks this season and he also has more of a scoring threat, becks is world class but i'd prefer to keep ole there when becks gets back</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yes but I bet 'MR. VODAPHONE' etc will want Becks back!!!!!!

Ole! get a good sponser mate
;)
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Originally posted by SheDevil777:
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Yes but I bet 'MR. VODAPHONE' etc will want Becks back!!!!!!

Ole! get a good sponser mate
;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

He'll be alright he's in the Nike ad.

So with that in mind who going to win in a punch up Mr Nike or Mr Vodafone??
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Originally posted by Ever hopefull:
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He'll be alright he's in the Nike ad.

So with that in mind who going to win in a punch up Mr Nike or Mr Vodafone??</strong><hr></blockquote>

I think Fergie will beat both of them!

;)
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Originally posted by Livvie20:
<strong>But however - I agree with what someone else said, that it might be an idea to keep Ole on te right, and start Becks CM. Just to see how it goes.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Potty IMO, when fit, we've got too many of them already - Verón, Scholes, Butt, Keane. Beckham should never play midfield, because what Verón gets criticised for (on the pure football level, we are not talking commitment here) so would Beckham. Neither are suited to playing 4-4-2 (once again 4-5-1/4-4-1-1 are plays on the 4-2-2) as central midfield players, and Verón is only suited as a sort of midfield sweeper. That sounds <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" /> but is correct. Verón would be fantastic in a 5-3-2 formation with two wing backs, but that means bye-bye to Giggs and Beckham and buying the likes of Carlos and Castroman et al.

You for one Livvie have always said that we need to put players in their correct positions, and in that case Ole should be beside Ruud, nowhere else. And Beckham should not play anywhere else but the right wing in the way we currently play, whatever the formation, and he should bloody well stay there instead of running all over the show thinking he is a central midfield player, which he clearly is not, except in his own mind.
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i think we should keep Ole on the right.

he's done no wrong, infact he's been superb there.

And i don't agree with changing the centre midfield, Scholsey as been awesome..while Fortune has helped him with his 'defensive' duties.. so why change sommat thats working?
 
Do you think Ole hugs the touchline more because Fergie says so, or because it's his way of playing that position?
 
Originally posted by giggzy:
<strong>i think we should keep Ole on the right.

he's done no wrong, infact he's been superb there.

And i don't agree with changing the centre midfield, Scholsey as been awesome..while Fortune has helped him with his 'defensive' duties.. so why change sommat thats working?</strong><hr></blockquote>

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Fine for the mo, but with that argument you would have Keano on the bench if he was fit.
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Originally posted by sidsutton:
<strong>Do you think Ole hugs the touchline more because Fergie says so, or because it's his way of playing that position?</strong><hr></blockquote>

I think it's because when told to play on the right, Ole actually takes notice of what his manager tells him to do.

There is no harm coming in in attacking situations to help the main forwards, when the ball is coming in from the left.
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Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
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Fine for the mo, but with that argument you would have Keano on the bench if he was fit.</strong><hr></blockquote>

less of the houlliers, weastey.


IF keane is back he'll play, instead of Fortune.

however, Ole is banging them crosses in as good as Dave B, he also attacks the touchline... why drop him, if his play is giving us an extra dimension.

no one has the right to play(cept keane IMO)... i'd even leave Rio on the bench.
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Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
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I think it's because when told to play on the right, Ole actually takes notice of what his manager tells him to do.

There is no harm coming in in attacking situations to help the main forwards, when the ball is coming in from the left.</strong><hr></blockquote>

So you reckon Becks is not listening to how Fergie wants him to play?
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Originally posted by sidsutton:
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So you reckon Becks is not listening to how Fergie wants him to play?</strong><hr></blockquote>

possible..


i think he doesn't like the idea, of being labelled a one trick pony.. shame coz he was excellent on the right. still think he can be.. all he needs to do is stay out wide.

he's world class at what he does best..lets hope he starts doing it again.
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Originally posted by giggzy:
<strong>however, Ole is banging them crosses in as good as Dave B, he also attacks the touchline... why drop him, if his play is giving us an extra dimension.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Because, if Beckham is abl to play, he should be beside RVN, not keeping Beckham on the bench with Forlan first choice next to RVN.
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Originally posted by giggzy:
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less of the houlliers, weastey.


IF keane is back he'll play, instead of Fortune.

however, Ole is banging them crosses in as good as Dave B, he also attacks the touchline... why drop him, if his play is giving us an extra dimension.

no one has the right to play(cept keane IMO)... i'd even leave Rio on the bench.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Worryingly, I agree with giggzy. Even the bit about Rio.
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Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
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Because, if Beckham is abl to play, he should be beside RVN, not keeping Beckham on the bench with Forlan first choice next to RVN.</strong><hr></blockquote>


even if he's been out of form???????????????


what type of logic is that?
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Originally posted by giggzy:
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even if he's been out of form???????????????


whats type of logic is that?</strong><hr></blockquote>

He's gone through a lot recently that can effect his form. He's not hit top frm for a long while, but even off form he's still a better crosser of the ball than Solskjaer is, even if Ole can cross a ball quite well.

I'll tell you what the logic is, Solskjaer is a far better striker than Forlan will ever be, so put Forlan on the bloody right wing if you dont want Beckham. And put Ole back in his rightful position.
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Originally posted by sidsutton:
<strong>Do you think Ole hugs the touchline more because Fergie says so, or because it's his way of playing that position?</strong><hr></blockquote>

No, I think that must be because his wife tells him so. Or it could be that the line is glued in some mysterious way, that only affects poor Ole. It helps him running straight though.

It's a really interesting question. Give Ole a call?

;)
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Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
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He's gone through a lot recently that can effect his form. He's not hit top frm for a long while, but even off form he's still a better crosser of the ball than Solskjaer is, even if Ole can cross a ball quite well.

I'll tell you what the logic is, Solskjaer is a far better striker than Forlan will ever be, so put Forlan on the bloody right wing if you dont want Beckham. And put Ole back in his rightful position.</strong><hr></blockquote>


ok ok ok ok.


you have made your point.


TBH i seriously think we need cover on the right., maybe even someone who could challenge becks.. (giggs n'all on the left).


PS: ole's a better crosser than Diego, which means if ole starts upfront, becks will have to start on the right.
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Originally posted by giggzy:
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ok ok ok ok.


you have made your point.


TBH i seriously think we need cover on the right., maybe even someone who could challenge becks.. (giggs n'all on the left).


PS: ole's a better crosser than Diego, which means if ole starts upfront, becks will have to start on the right.</strong><hr></blockquote>

He's called Joaquín, if the PLC will get their fecking wallet out and put a 15 mil bid on the table NOW! If they do that, we'll have the kid come June.
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Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
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He's called Joaquín, if the PLC will get their fecking wallet out and put a 15 mil bid on the table NOW! If they do that, we'll have the kid come June.</strong><hr></blockquote>

and quaresma!
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