Are fecking shit, aren't they?
Defiantly.
Formulaic commercial pop-punk. They're probably kinloaded
Yes they are pop punk therefore they must be formulaic.
They're not by the way.
Yes they are pop punk therefore they must be formulaic.
They're not by the way.
Bands like NOFX are anything but formulaic though yes i can see why there would be criticism of these commercial bands. I still think Green Day's done some decent catchy early stuff.
Pop-punk's alright when your around 10-15; after that you discover Black Flag, the Sex Pistols and the Dead Kennedys.
Bands like NOFX are anything but formulaic though yes i can see why there would be criticism of these commercial bands. I still think Green Day's done some decent catchy early stuff.
Pop-punk's alright when your around 10-15; after that you discover Black Flag, the Sex Pistols and the Dead Kennedys.
How dare you comaper NOFX in the same sentence as Simple Plan!
Rubbish, I am in my early 20's and listen to pop punk. I probably have over 40 odd pop punk bands on my pc. There are good bands in that genre, its always a shame when people decide they are too cool or whatever for a whole genre of music, seems pointless to me. Oh and I was about 10 when I started listening to bands like Skrewdriver, The Exploited, Oxymoron, Rancid, Catch 22, 7 Seconds, Refused, Amen, Against Me, Agnostic Front, Minor Threat, Bad Brains, Hit The Switch, Stiff Little Fingers, AFI, Anti-Flag, Pennywise, bad Religion, Lag Wagon, Circle Jerks, Fugazi, Dropkick Murphy's, Gallows, Jawbreaker, Lawrence Arms, Propaghandi, Strike Anywhere, Bouncing Souls, The Clash, the Ramones, Union 13, Embrace, State of Alert, The Germs, Horrorpops, Negative FX, Picture Frame Seduction, Mr Bungle, The Dead Pets, The Damned, Crass, The Unseen, The Descendants, Social Distortion, Subhumans, The Misfits, Rise Against, The vandals, GBH, The Sepcials, Operation Ivy, Streetlight Manifesto, Cock Sparrer, Boys Night Out...seriously I could go on. So it's not like I don't knwo what 'real' punk is.
Point is I also listen to bands like Allister and Blink182 etc, because I like their stuff (although admittedly Blinks newer stuff is crap). Fair do's if you don't like a specific band for musical reasons, but people are all too quick to dismiss whole genres of music these days.
Simple Plan are shite boyband. Even by MTV-punks standard they are rubbish.
Thing is though there is so much monopolised commerical music marketed to pre-teens and what not many don't even get to listen to the much better music until later on.
Rubbish, I am in my early 20's and listen to pop punk. I probably have over 40 odd pop punk bands on my pc. There are good bands in that genre, its always a shame when people decide they are too cool or whatever for a whole genre of music, seems pointless to me. Oh and I was about 10 when I started listening to bands like Skrewdriver, The Exploited, Oxymoron, Rancid, Catch 22, 7 Seconds, Refused, Amen, Against Me, Agnostic Front, Minor Threat, Bad Brains, Hit The Switch, Stiff Little Fingers, AFI, Anti-Flag, Pennywise, bad Religion, Lag Wagon, Circle Jerks, Fugazi, Dropkick Murphy's, Gallows, Jawbreaker, Lawrence Arms, Propaghandi, Strike Anywhere, Bouncing Souls, The Clash, the Ramones, Union 13, Embrace, State of Alert, The Germs, Horrorpops, Negative FX, Picture Frame Seduction, Mr Bungle, The Dead Pets, The Damned, Crass, The Unseen, The Descendants, Social Distortion, Subhumans, The Misfits, Rise Against, The vandals, GBH, The Sepcials, Operation Ivy, Streetlight Manifesto, Cock Sparrer, Boys Night Out...seriously I could go on. So it's not like I don't knwo what 'real' punk is.
Point is I also listen to bands like Allister and Blink182 etc, because I like their stuff (although admittedly Blinks newer stuff is crap). Fair do's if you don't like a specific band for musical reasons, but people are all too quick to dismiss whole genres of music these days.
I've never heard of them. I must be getting old
How do you define better music? Are for instance NOFX 'better' than me First and the Gimme Gimme's?
For what its worth; i think Blink 182 have some excellent tracks that i regularily listen to along with some other pop-punk bands.
I'm not talking about pop-punk in general; i'm talking about stuff like Good Charlotte, Simple Plan, The Calling who are so obviously commercial and lacking any sort of artistic individuality.
And we must be from different backgrounds; i'm 19 now and only a couple of years ago through torrents and youtube did i start listening to the old punk bands. Before that i didn't know that many apart from your usual bubblegum pop stuff and hadn't heard many albums either.
I'm not policing anything either; people can listen to whatever they like.
Not sure if i could define it really; just sounds different to the usual mainstream norm i suppose. That is not to say ofcourse that mainstream punk is inferior in any way but you listen to the same sort of thing for a while and it really gets boring.
Like i said though, that's my take on it. Someone once said that you can tell a lot about a person by his/her music taste; don't agree with that at all.
Don't let my ex hear you call the calling crap, her best made is the cousin of the lead singer, who's name I have forgotten
To be fair I agree that Simple Plan and Good Charlotte are a bit rubbish, although I will admit to liking some of Bowling 4 Soup's stuff. What can I say? Their vidoes are feckin' hilarious. Oh and My Chemical Romance are the one band I will admit to hating. But I just think its pointless comparing bands from different genre's. In my opinion A band like The Movielife are (were) better than say The Killers or whatever. Few people will agree with me though, even though I am right. its horses for courses. I've learnt you can't make someone believe one genre is better. Its easier just to accept some people are cool and listen to punk, whereas others are tone deaf gimps who listen to trip-hop or whatever it is kids these days listen to.
Its good and just because I think they're annoying, doesn't mean I am not going to listen to it.
The Calling are a one-hit wonder, that song was a prime example of a radio-friendly hit that bands now are intent on making to sell their albums.
Bowling 4 soup do some catchy stuff i suppose; more pop than punk. MCR are ridiculously overhyped.
I know a lot of people who listen to stuff from RAGE and Dead Kennedys and claim to listen to certain genres as if it's a badge of honour or something yet they completely miss the point with regards to the band's message etc.
feckin hell just look at people who listen to stuff like Slipknot and it'll tell you that people don't just listen to the music for the sake of it, rebelling for the sake of rebelling and all they do is come across as insecure really.
Fair enough. I still can't believe you had heard so much of that stuff at age 10; don't even want to begin to say the kind of stuff i was into at that age.
There's no such thing as Punk music, or if there was it lasted for about 6 months in the late 70's. This stuff is homogenised bar chord proto rock and if you like it then you like it, its all about taste. One person will tell you that Green Day used to be good when they were 15 and went out and bought Dookie and saw them at the T&C in Leeds, that person may now be into Hendrix, Radiohead, Mars Volta, Joy Division etc
They are crap and add to that
American rejects, Good charlotte, chemical romance and some others.
Are fecking shit, aren't they?