Silvestre would "prefer" Henry than RVN...

[Elfie]

From Teamtalk : "Mikael Silvestre says he would prefer to have compatriot Thierry Henry in his side than Manchester United team-mate Ruud van Nistelrooy.
The France defender believes Arsenal striker Henry gives his team more attacking options than Dutch star van Nistelrooy. Silvestre, who recently penned a new four-year deal at Old Trafford, also feels there is no depth to the United squad.
Asked if he had a preference between the two strikers, Silvestre said: "I would take Henry because he is a lot faster. That is very important in English football, and Henry also gives a team more attacking options."



Once again your rags have distorted what Silvestre wanted to say, I haven't read the original interview (I say "original" because I don't believe he speaks to the Daily Star... <img src="graemlins/smirk.gif" border="0" alt="[Smirk]" /> ) but I'm sure of that. He probably has said that Henry was faster than Van Nistelrooy, and that's true, in the same way Henry is faster than Trezeguet but they're just different players, they have other qualities. Once again your rags are trying to create polemics, I'm digusted by the fact that even websites like Teamtalk or "serious" papers like the Guardian don't even check where comes from this "information"...

 

[Raoul]

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[ste_grassham]

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[MrBurns]

Originally posted by Raoul:
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[SPACEY]

Originally Posted by Elfie:
Once again your rags have distorted what Silvestre wanted to say, I haven't read the original interview (I say "original" because I don't believe he speaks to the Daily Star... ) but I'm sure of that. He probably has said that Henry was faster than Van Nistelrooy, and that's true, in the same way Henry is faster than Trezeguet but they're just different players, they have other qualities. Once again your rags are trying to create polemics, I'm digusted by the fact that even websites like Teamtalk or "serious" papers like the Guardian don't even check where comes from this "information"... <hr></blockquote>

Exactly. I can't see Silvestre giving an interview to the Daily Star. They've probably taken what he said out of context to make a 'sensational' headline.

 

[Grunge]

Originally posted by Elfie:
<strong>From Teamtalk : "Mikael Silvestre says he would prefer to have compatriot Thierry Henry in his side than Manchester United team-mate Ruud van Nistelrooy. </strong><hr></blockquote>

I agree & I too am quite sure this "quote" has been taken out of context & is designed to stir up the "merde".
BUT I too would love to see Henry in our side. He is without question a "different type" of player to Ruud but one I believe would score even more goals the RVN. Given a choice, I think I would choose the Frenchman over the Dutchman too.

 

[Kevin]

Originally posted by Grunge:
<strong>

I agree & I too am quite sure this "quote" has been taken out of context & is designed to stir up the "merde".
BUT I too would love to see Henry in our side. He is without question a "different type" of player to Ruud but one I believe would score even more goals the RVN. Given a choice, I think I would choose the Frenchman over the Dutchman too.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Nah, he'd not score more goals than Ruud in our side. With all respect to our current side, I think Arsenal create even more chances for their strikers than we do for RvN atm (look at our first 10 games this season, could hardly break through defenses).

 

[Kookaburra]

Originally posted by Kevin:
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Nah, he'd not score more goals than Ruud in our side. With all respect to our current side, I think Arsenal create even more chances for their strikers than we do for RvN atm (look at our first 10 games this season, could hardly break through defenses).</strong><hr></blockquote>

Really, and how often does Ruud pick the ball up inside your half, beat four players and score? Henry creates chance for himself. Arsenal create a lot of chances BECAUSE of Henry. He's not some penalty box striker who hovers around the six yard line for tap-ins.

 

[WeasteDevil]

Originally posted by Kookaburra:
<strong>

Really, and how often does Ruud pick the ball up inside your half, beat four players and score? Henry creates chance for himself. Arsenal create a lot of chances BECAUSE of Henry. He's not some penalty box striker who hovers around the six yard line for tap-ins.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Tit! <img src="graemlins/santa.gif" border="0" alt="[Santa]" />

 

[fortyseven]

Originally posted by Kookaburra:
<strong>

Really, and how often does Ruud pick the ball up inside your half, beat four players and score? </strong><hr></blockquote>

How often does Henry do it? Once in his career?

When will Henry become capable of scoring goals like Ruud's first against Depor? Never.

 

[Red15]

They're both great strikers but different. I actually think they'd complement each other really well, and I'm sure 99% of Arsenal/United fans would love to have both Ruud and Henry in their team.

 

[Elfie]

Originally posted by Red15:
<strong>They're both great strikers but different. I actually think they'd complement each other really well, and I'm sure 99% of Arsenal/United fans would love to have both Ruud and Henry in their team.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Exactly !

 

[Kevin]

Originally posted by Kookaburra:
<strong>

Really, and how often does Ruud pick the ball up inside your half, beat four players and score? Henry creates chance for himself. Arsenal create a lot of chances BECAUSE of Henry. He's not some penalty box striker who hovers around the six yard line for tap-ins.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Ruud scores with headers, has more sense of opportunism, and is stronger than Henry. He can score goals where Henry can't and vice versa. In the end though, Ruud has scored more than Henry in all competitions last year in a team that does NOT create as many chances as Arsenal.

 

[LenSharkey]

i still wouldnt swap Ruud for Henry. We might be missing that "Henry" piece of the jigsaw but take Ruud away and we'd miss the "Ruud" figure.
Diff type of game.

 

[Art Vandelay]

Originally posted by Red15:

They're both great strikers but different. I actually think they'd complement each other really well, and I'm sure 99% of Arsenal/United fans would love to have both Ruud and Henry in their team. <hr></blockquote>

This is one of my dreams in the actual football. That striker couple would we amazing. Better than Real's couple.

 

[BAP]

Originally posted by Kookaburra:
<strong>

Really, and how often does Ruud pick the ball up inside your half, beat four players and score? Henry creates chance for himself. Arsenal create a lot of chances BECAUSE of Henry. He's not some penalty box striker who hovers around the six yard line for tap-ins.</strong><hr></blockquote>

How often does RVM miss three pens in a row?

 

[VanNistelrater]

Originally posted by Kookaburra:
<strong>

Really, and how often does Ruud pick the ball up inside your half, beat four players and score? Henry creates chance for himself. Arsenal create a lot of chances BECAUSE of Henry. He's not some penalty box striker who hovers around the six yard line for tap-ins.</strong><hr></blockquote>


the true call of a jealous Muppet.

How often has Henry picked the ball up, done nifty footwork in a small space, getting round 2 or 3 players, evading challenges and curling the ball into the goal from an impossible angle?

Ruud provides many goals and sets many up, he's in our top 3 of assists i think. Dont give me the "he noly scores tap in" bollocks, everyone says that, its just an excuse. Henry cant score headers and in my honest opinion doesnt drive the team on as Ruud does. Henrys prettier to look at but i believe Ruud gets the job done ona more regular basis. As stats show last year, he scored more than Henry in all comps last year and i think has scored more than him this year in all comps. aswell.

 

[Arsenal]

Originally posted by VanNistlerater:
<strong>

How often has Henry picked the ball up, done nifty footwork in a small space, getting round 2 or 3 players, evading challenges and curling the ball into the goal from an impossible angle?
</strong><hr></blockquote>

Kanu has done that, doesn't mean he's better than Henry though. Henry scores a similar amount of goals as RvN, creates more and is a winner. What has RvN won in his career? feck all, that's what.

 

[Kevin]

Originally posted by Arsenal:
<strong>

Kanu has done that, doesn't mean he's better than Henry though. Henry scores a similar amount of goals as RvN, creates more and is a winner. What has RvN won in his career? feck all, that's what.</strong><hr></blockquote>

He creates more, but also isn't around more when a tap in is available RvN gets himself in such positions far more often in a team, again, that is NOT as fast and does NOT create as many chances.
As said, Henry ain't perfect, he's got his flaws which RvN complements neatly.
Oh and take a look in the UEFA CL stats btw. Ruud leads the assist for all top strikers (talking about strikers only), he also ended up 2nd or 3rd in CL assist list. Right, he creates nothing for his teammates...

 

[alex hurley]

Teddy Sheringham said in a Sunday Times interview (slightly more reliable than the Star) that Ruud was slightly better as ,irregardless of the match situation for United, winning or losing, and irregardless of how many goals he had scored he has the same hunger to score. I think Ruud is more similar to Owen in that regard although as Pool fans are finding out Owen is more one dimensional.

 

[MadDogg]

It's hard to say who's the better player. I think Henry at his best is better, but Ruud is more likely to score or set up a goal on an off night.

But if given a choice of one and only one playing for Man Utd, I wouldn't hesitate to pick Ruud. We already have a number of players that play deeper and look to bring it up (although certainly none are as good as Henry), but besides Ruud we don't really have another stike-man that sits on the last defenders shoulder. And with guys like Veron and Beckham in the side who can play balls from anywhere, Ruud gives us more than what Henry could.

 

[zXe]

Originally posted by Arsenal:
<strong>
What has RvN won in his career? feck all, that's what.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Scroll to the top of the page, see Santa up there? He's won more than Henry.

 

[Art Vandelay]

Originally posted by Arsenal

What has RvN won in his career? <hr></blockquote>

Who cares? Why is that important in this discussion?

 

[Kevin]

Originally posted by Arsenal:
<strong>

Kanu has done that, doesn't mean he's better than Henry though. Henry scores a similar amount of goals as RvN, creates more and is a winner. What has RvN won in his career? feck all, that's what.</strong><hr></blockquote>

What has winning with a TEAM got to do with this topic in which we're discussing single individuals and their abilities??? But what HAS got to do with the topic are the individual prizes though, glad you brought this up:
Ruud: PL player of the Year
Where was Henry?

 

[Arsenal]

Originally posted by zXe:
<strong>

Scroll to the top of the page, see Santa up there? He's won more than Henry.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Has Santa up there won the World Cup? Or the European Championship? Why is this important? Because Henry has the mentality of a winner and a team of winners is always more likely to win. RvN plays for failures, Manutd and Holland.

 

[edmund]

Originally posted by Arsenal:
<strong>

Has Santa up there won the World Cup? Or the European Championship? Why is this important? Because Henry has the mentality of a winner and a team of winners is always more likely to win. RvN plays for failures, Manutd and Holland.</strong><hr></blockquote>

yup, very intelectual comment <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />

mentality and team of winners indeed.
who was it that didnt score one single feckin goal in the world cup? oh its the winner henry.

The French team is past their best and Arsenal havent even won half as much as United...so keep ur comments to urself

 

[thumper]

My God, the Arse win the title for 1 year in a row (again) and suddenly their the best thing since sliced bread. You do know you wont retain the title dont you? The Arse never retain the title but dont worry, another couple of seasons being 2nd will get the hunger going again

 

[Ever hopefull]

The media can't handle it when things are going well at United, so they will find any tit bit of information that they can twist to try and stir things us. Its all bollocks but i guess it comes with the territory. When your at the biggest club in the world even single thing you say will be analysed 10 times over in the hope they can find something to twist.
I think we all know that they Daily Star is nothing more than a poor mans Andrex

 

[ryansgirl]

No Red Devil needs to get stuck into Micky for supposedly criticising his fellow players in the media. Owing to the fact that most football players do not tend to give interviews regularly to any paper (they are very selective) then the press, especially the tabloid press, are always sniffing around for bits and pieces of information to blow up into some kind of supposed exclusive or controversy.

Mickey is too smart to give that kind of interview, and therefore what he has had to say honestly in the past about fellow players has been magnified. There is nothing wrong with him giving credit to his fellow Frenchman - Henry is an excellent player and has really hit his stride in recent seasons.

However, I prefer Ruud as I think he has more presence on the pitch and makes defenders very worried in regard to his physical presence alone. Yet at the same time Ruud can be subtle. I hope he is over his 'diving phase' as I think it detracts from his true talent and he has no need to engage in such behaviour. I think Ruud is really going to come into his own soon and we will all see then who we would prefer in the MU team.