Silvestre in Contract Talks...

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<a href="http://www.planetfootball.com/article.asp?id=108048&clid=&cpid=&Title=Silvestre+in+United+talks" target="_blank">hope so...</a>
 
Yay and whew...
Was wondering what the heck was going on with no movement on this front.
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good news. too good a player to let go easily.
good to see him say that although he enjoys playing CB he doesnt "baulk at playing on the left"
 
Yay, something really out of the horse`s mouth instead of rehashed tabloid reports and dodgily translated news from France.

Oh Mickey you`re so fine .... :D
 
Good news to hear that he wants to extend the contract. <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" />

This is something that we have been waiting for.
 
The way we had no penetration on the left side of the park when Micky went off and the right-footed Phil Neville played as left back was frightening.
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And O'Shea is not a fullback!
 
Only planetwank and Soccernet (unreliable) have reported this so-far <img src="graemlins/nervous.gif" border="0" alt="[Nervous]" />
 
Yes! finally. Hope we extend him for 5 more years. <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" />
 
YEESSSSSSSSSS Thankfully this is now getting sorted.

I posted a topic about this concern of him not being signed up yet...

Going to get the usual "oh we all know he can attack well but its his defendind"

I think defensively he has found a balance now and is less prone to big mistakes...Gosh I think we have a younger version of Carlos when he bombs up and down that flank.

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Originally posted by classyred:
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I think defensively he has found a balance now and is less prone to big mistakes...Gosh I think we have a younger version of Carlos when he bombs up and down that flank.

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yes you are in agreement with my onion sir
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I'm waiting for the 'we want defenders who can defend' crowd to chime in on this thread. <img src="graemlins/smirk.gif" border="0" alt="[Smirk]" />
 
Originally posted by Raoul:
<strong>I'm waiting for the 'we want defenders who can defend' crowd to chime in on this thread. <img src="graemlins/smirk.gif" border="0" alt="[Smirk]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
I think he's staying more by default than anything else, cos we couldn't land Sorin or Escude.
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Originally posted by Raoul:
<strong>I'm waiting for the 'we want defenders who can defend' crowd to chime in on this thread. <img src="graemlins/smirk.gif" border="0" alt="[Smirk]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

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Originally posted by Neil Thomson:
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I think he's staying more by default than anything else, cos we couldn't land Sorin or Escude.</strong><hr></blockquote>

But surely neither of those players could unseed him. It would seem that pursuing Escude would be as a replacement for Denis.
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Originally posted by Raoul:
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But surely neither of those players could unseed him. It would seem that pursuing Escude would be as a replacement for Denis.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Sorin would have. Escude would have in time. If he makes his usual costly feck ups this year, we'll regret not sorting that position out, and especially if Mickey gets injured because he is still better than Phil Neville, even if I do think he can't defend very well. ;)
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Originally posted by Neil Thomson:
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Sorin would have. Escude would have in time. If he makes his usual costly feck ups this year, we'll regret not sorting that position out, and especially if Mickey gets injured because he is still better than Phil Neville, even if I do think he can't defend very well. ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

We can't be sure that Sorin would have. TBH I can't think of many LBs anywhere who could unseed Mickey. He's embarking on the prime years of his career and its in our best interest to sign him on for a few more years.
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Originally posted by Raoul:
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We can't be sure that Sorin would have. TBH I can't think of many LBs anywhere who could unseed Mickey. He's embarking on the prime years of his career and its in our best interest to sign him on for a few more years.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Carlos, Cole, Lizarazu, Bridge, and, dare I say it, maybe even Riise.
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Honestly, I doubt either Sorin or Escude would have displaced Silvestre. Sorin has a lot of pace, but his defending isn't exactly sound either. Escude is young, and has potential, but he would not start over Silvestre either.

Lets face it, Silvestre may not be Roberto Carlos, but he is still very, very good.
 
Originally posted by Neil Thomson:
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Carlos, Cole, Lizarazu, Bridge, and, dare I say it, maybe even Riise.</strong><hr></blockquote>

i think you underrate mikey ...
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Originally posted by mathiaslg:
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Lets face it, Silvestre may not be Roberto Carlos, but he is still very, very good.</strong><hr></blockquote>

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Originally posted by mathiaslg:
<strong>Honestly, I doubt either Sorin or Escude would have displaced Silvestre. Sorin has a lot of pace, but his defending isn't exactly sound either. Escude is young, and has potential, but he would not start over Silvestre either.

Lets face it, Silvestre may not be Roberto Carlos, but he is still very, very good.</strong><hr></blockquote>
He's a great attacking left back, not quite as good as Roberto Carlos at that, and doesn't score goals, and not quite as tenacious a defender either, and he has hopeless positioning, yes, he's never convinced me. His positioning will never improve imo, and I doubt he's far off from reaching his plateau. I hope I'm wrong though, and that he has a great season, because we need him to - but I'm glad we're still in for Escude as insurance.
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IMO, Micky's only problem is his positioning, he wanders too central for my liking and more often than not, that's when he gets caught out. When he stays in his 'quadrant' he is tough to get past.

I'll take his occasional error as a trade off for him running up the left wing causing havoc. If Giggsy would get his finger out of course, Micky could concentrate soley on defending!
 
Originally posted by Neil Thomson:
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Carlos, Cole, Lizarazu, Bridge, and, dare I say it, maybe even Riise.</strong><hr></blockquote>

In a later post you make a reasonable point about Mikkey's positioning, which is improving but certainly a weakness. But to suggest Cole & Bridge are better is surely a reaction to your medication? ;)
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Originally posted by Marcus:
[QB]The way we had no penetration on the left side of the park when Micky went off and the right-footed Phil Neville played as left back was frightening.
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Right-footed Phil Neville played as right back is equally frightening.
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Originally posted by Grunge:
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In a later post you make a reasonable point about Mikkey's positioning, which is improving but certainly a weakness. But to suggest Cole & Bridge are better is surely a reaction to your medication? ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>
Cole is a regular international left back who had a very good world cup. Bridge had a much better season last year than Silvestre, and was their Player of the Year, while Silvestre was DROPPED at the beginning of the season during our bad start. Both of them are better at defending and positioning than Silvestre. Both of them are not far off being as good going forward as well.
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Originally posted by Neil Thomson:
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Carlos, Cole, Lizarazu, Bridge, and, dare I say it, maybe even Riise.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Carlos. That's about all.

Bridge. That's a joke right ?
Lizerazu - Too old.
Cole - maybe, but not definitely
Riise - No.
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Originally posted by Raoul:
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Carlos. That's about all.

Bridge. That's a joke right ?
Lizerazu - Too old.
Cole - maybe, but not definitely
Riise - No.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Exactly. Furthermore, part of left-sided defensive problems United have had is that Giggs often gets caught out of position after having made his runs up field. Silvestre may not help things either when he does too, but that is something I think, we can accept as long as we have a more solid CB pairing, which I think we can have.
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Strangely Silvestre was playing on the left for France the other day and he was awful (but to be fair Desailly and Christanval weren't good too, only Thuram was good). So I've heard a journalist today wondering why Fergie makes him play on the left. Strangely he has made his best performances for France as a CB. But the debate doesn't exist for us as we have already Ferdinand, Blanc, Brown and O'Shea, and even G. Neville. <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
 
i'm glad Mickey is looking to extend his deal and United have got round to offering him a new deal. He may not be the best Left Back in the world but we are going to struggle to get a replaement. He may never be Roberto Carlos and he definately will never be a Maldini but he a hell of a lot better than some of the shit out there at the moment. Look at the evidence

Carlos - Probably the best in the world @ the mo.
Sorin - Overrated. Good but not great
Escude - To be honest, i know feck all about him.
Bridge - You mus be joking
Cole - Don't even go there
Riise - Good player. Similar to Mickey, not as quick but scores more goals. More left wing than left back

Sign the contract Mickey and make us all happy
 
Originally posted by Neil Thomson:
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Cole is a regular international left back who had a very good world cup. Bridge had a much better season last year than Silvestre, and was their Player of the Year, while Silvestre was DROPPED at the beginning of the season during our bad start. Both of them are better at defending and positioning than Silvestre. Both of them are not far off being as good going forward as well.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Come on Neil, being a "regular international" for England at LB is hardly a claim to fame these days. Ingurland has struggling at that position for years. Even Phil was rightly agrieved at being dropped. IMO Cole was easily our weakest link at the back and didn't rate mention in the top ten LB's at the tourney. As for Bridges . . . well, since he couldn't displace Cole, what more needs to be said.

Mikkey's a great overlapping FB who will cost us the odd goal but more than make up for it at the other end.

Keep the faith,

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"There's only one United!"
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hey Mods you should have available an icon for loud cheering man or applause like for when expressing a great revelation, one that could even be put forward to SAF, like my one about playing P. Neville in the hole. that one slipped through however but i do feel an applause/bow icon would be nice. <img src="graemlins/angel.gif" border="0" alt="[Angel]" />
 
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