Its rarely mentioned but half of this board wanted to get rid of Mickey during his first two years at OT (myself excluded). He's blossomed into a world class player ever since Fergie snatched him away from nearly signing for the dippers. Mikael Silvestre = World Class and he hasn't even peaked yet...
Silvestre appreciation thread....
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i've always rated him..
the kermits were slagging him off last week.. yes he makes the occasional mistake..but overall, i don't think there are many better LBs around.
the kermits were slagging him off last week.. yes he makes the occasional mistake..but overall, i don't think there are many better LBs around.
i've also always liked him.. i thought he's always worked well down the left wing, where giggs has been lacking.
he also made a lot of assists to RVN last season.. he will improve his defensive game and i think only a substitute for him is needed, not someone who shoud come in and take over.
he also made a lot of assists to RVN last season.. he will improve his defensive game and i think only a substitute for him is needed, not someone who shoud come in and take over.
well, i gotta admit i was one of his critics. But i have to give credit where's its due. He was great yesterday... hope it stays the same and he signs for us soon... 
His good performances outweigh his bad ones
I like to see him going forward, he can beat players with some ease
I like to see him going forward, he can beat players with some ease
Mickey.. always was excellent going forward has vastly improved defensively though still prone to lapses in concentration ........
Originally posted by Raoul:
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Name one footballer who isn't....</strong><hr></blockquote>
KEANE.....
Originally posted by seanoc:
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KEANE.....
Agreed. He's fully focused when he gets himself sent off and suspended for weeks.
Originally posted by seanoc:
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KEANE.....
you must be kidding right?
keane doesn't have lapses of the will to win, but he sure has shown enough of lapses of focus of what he has to do on the field when he tries to throw out punches during games.
everybody has some kind of lapse. even the best players have their off moments.
I think you might not have spotted the at the end.........
Though to be fair even taking into accounts the bursts of temper he probably is one of the most focused players united have...............
at the end.........Though to be fair even taking into accounts the bursts of temper he probably is one of the most focused players united have...............
Originally posted by seanoc:
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Though to be fair even taking into accounts the bursts of temper he probably is one of the most focused players united have...............</strong><hr></blockquote>
can't argue with that.. so agreed with a
Silvestre! <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" /> <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" />
Lets hope he signs a new contract soon
he's always been in the roberto carlos mould and he showed it more yesterday than ever. i think if we get him motivated and re-signed our search for a LB is over well done tweetie.
Originally posted by SPACEY:
<strong>Lets hope he signs a new contract soon
Some Sunday rags reckon that he won't be signing.
United (PLC) are supposed to have offered him a 3 year contract and £42,000 a week and he's supposed to have said thats not enough.
Originally Posted by stoned.rose:
Some Sunday rags reckon that he won't be signing.
United (PLC) are supposed to have offered him a 3 year contract and £42,000 a week and he's supposed to have said thats not enough.
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That means he could leave on a free soon <img src="graemlins/nervous.gif" border="0" alt="[Nervous]" />
we must keep him, he's the best lb in the prem
Originally posted by stoned.rose:
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Some Sunday rags reckon that he won't be signing.
United (PLC) are supposed to have offered him a 3 year contract and £42,000 a week and he's supposed to have said thats not enough.
I reckon he'll stay
One good game while he's stuggling to negotiate a contract doesn't wipe out all the bad one's he's had this season - this is his first this season where I thought he was worth an 8 I think. We're solidly linked to Sorin (probably the only way we'll effectively get our money back from Lazio) and he's not the sort to be second choice. Mickey's great going forwards, and weak defensively. Play him as a winger maybe, or a wing back, but not a full back and certainly not a centre back!
He must be top, or near the top, of our assists for this season and last. He's a top player. I ranked him ever since he was great on CM3
At a national level, France must consider him to be the ideal successor to Lizarazu.
At a national level, France must consider him to be the ideal successor to Lizarazu.
At present the lad is a very good full back on his day. He could be world class, but he's not there yet. He's not pushing Lizarazu for his place in the national team for a start. That's his benchmark. It's true that when he does have the endeavour to go forward to the last third of the pitch nearly always something good comes from it. Be it an assist or a cross into the danger area. Where he needs to develop is his timing of overlapping runs. e.g. when Giggs is being doubled up by full back and right midfielder. Its a balance he needs to get.
His concentration and positional sense are the key areas. Too often he relies on his pace to get him out of a mess, where his positioning would have eliminated the problem in the first place. He should possibly get some ideas from Laurent Blanc. His reading of situations and positioning are spot on. If Mickey can improve in these areas, then he will be world class.
His concentration and positional sense are the key areas. Too often he relies on his pace to get him out of a mess, where his positioning would have eliminated the problem in the first place. He should possibly get some ideas from Laurent Blanc. His reading of situations and positioning are spot on. If Mickey can improve in these areas, then he will be world class.
He has improved. I don't automatically get heart palpatations when get gets the ball anymore.
Originally posted by RUnited
that's probably why silvestre is caught out of positions at LB at times, because his work covers the whole of the left side.
the same could probably be said of Gaz. but this doesn't make them bad players,<hr></blockquote>
RUnited, I wasn't for one moment criticising Mickey's defensive work in my post - although he is inconsistent, that wasn't the point of my post - but rather suggesting that his superb attacking skills could be better utilised by his playing in a more forward position. Full backs have been known to become wingers. I was complimenting Mickey, honestly!!!
Other than his now-and-then sudden lose of concentrations ... I think he's damn marvellous as a left-back ... nothing short of Cole nor any other lef-back in current football world ..
Give him his contract damnnn.. ... won't get any better outside unless we splash cash again ... which is nuts !! Simple maths. here come on ... 40K a week and that will sum up to be mere 2mil a year, 10mil in 5years. 10mil - I am not sure if that will be enough to buy any better one out there - and DON'T forget - whoever come in later will sure ask for around the same salary if he's of any good/reputation ...
Now, who is bad in Maths here???
Give him his contract damnnn.. ... won't get any better outside unless we splash cash again ... which is nuts !! Simple maths. here come on ... 40K a week and that will sum up to be mere 2mil a year, 10mil in 5years. 10mil - I am not sure if that will be enough to buy any better one out there - and DON'T forget - whoever come in later will sure ask for around the same salary if he's of any good/reputation ...
Now, who is bad in Maths here???
Brilliant, thats my verdict just gets better&
better
better
Originally posted by Nh1878:
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RUnited, I wasn't for one moment criticising Mickey's defensive work in my post - although he is inconsistent, that wasn't the point of my post - but rather suggesting that his superb attacking skills could be better utilised by his playing in a more forward position. Full backs have been known to become wingers. I was complimenting Mickey, honestly!!!
oh no! i got you completely.. i just wanted to point my opinion about why i thought Silvestre gets hammered for lapsing his defensive concentration.. i also fully support Silvestre and hope he will get better at defending positions.
I have supported him ever since at the time most people here flamed him. From his performance last Saturday I have no doubt he can become one of the best attacking LB in the world. Fergie please gives him a new contract.