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Full Name: Shola Shoretire
Date of Birth: Feb 2, 2004 (18)
Nationality: England
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Other Nationalities: Nigeria
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Position: Attack - Left Winger/Right Winger
Player Agent: Gestifute
Foot: Right
Father: @chattichattichatta
Squad Number: #47
Contract expires: June 30, 2024
Date of last contract extension: Feb 8, 2021
Outfitter: Adidas​
 
A shame he's not in the tour squad. Is he injured?
 
He looks a bit clueless what to do with the ball when he has it, every time I've seen him. Could obviously grow out of that, but I'm getting a bit of Chong vibes
 
I’m never quite sure why he’s so highly rated. Like what is he very good at? More likely me not being a good judge than him not being a good player, mind you.

Yeah - it’s maybe a bit of a lazy comparison but I can see him having a similar path to Angel Gomes.
 
Bit of a nothing player. Most of our youngsters are quite overrated, Garnacho, Zidane and Amad are top talents but that's it.
 
Yeah - it’s maybe a bit of a lazy comparison but I can see him having a similar path to Angel Gomes.

With Gomes I could always see why people were excited about him. I admittedly haven’t watched as much youth football since Shoretire was involved so am probably missing something. But every time I watch him play I just can’t work out what element of football he excels at.
 
I never saw the hype when he broke though under Ole. He is ridiculously young so I just put it down to his age. Didn't watch the game when he came on today so can't pass judgement.
 
Does his dad still post here? Always thought that was pretty cool.
 
He's only 18. I think the fact he got some appearances at such a young age gives the impression he should be further along, but he's still a baby. I think he's a decent technical footballer but whether he's got that burst of pace to beat someone or the end product will probably be under question as he goes along.
 
Not really on the pitch long enough to do much. I do see the talent there and he has been very good for the U23s and I think some people forget he only turned 18 a few months ago. He is just nowhere near ready for our first team which is hardly surprising, he does need a good loan at this point as he won't contribute if he stays and he has already outgrown the U23 scene.
 
Bit of a nothing player. Most of our youngsters are quite overrated, Garnacho, Zidane and Amad are top talents but that's it.

If we get two top talents and two squad players out of the current batch, it's a considerably better than expected return. It's a numbers game.

In theory this batch should produce a higher % who make it because if I recall correctly we went on a splurge of a fair few top talents around Europe post Brexit because of a rule changing making it harder to sign under 18s from abroad. We signed Garnacho, Fernandes, Kambwala, Jurado, Hansen-Aaroen that summer, plus Diallo although for a big fee, Hannibal I think the summer before. There's a couple in there I wouldn't write off just yet.

The older batch don't look like making it, not sure they were particularly hyped in comparison though.
 
I know he's highly rated in the academy but so far I've seen nothing that suggest he should be close to the first team.
 
Never been particularly impressed whenever I’ve seen him to be honest.

He has never impressed in his cameos for the first team IMO. He always looks miles off and not nearly ready. But he has been good for the youth teams, so the talent is clearly there, but I think he has struggled a bit in first-team football. Stilly very young so no panic.
 
He has never impressed in his cameos for the first team IMO. He always looks miles off and not nearly ready. But he has been good for the youth teams, so the talent is clearly there, but I think he has struggled a bit in first-team football. Stilly very young so no panic.

Yeah I’m not saying give up all hope, just he has looked so far off the pace in the first team and needs regular minutes from a loan rather than continuing in the youth team.
 
He's very young and has always played in the higher age groups and never looked out of place which shows how highly he's always been rated.

He's a very technical and intelligent player that can do a bit of everything and play multiple positions.
 
He seemed a bit tentative and nervous when he was on the ball, like he trying to make sure he did nothing wrong and took a safer option.

Also, gotta remember that Garnacho, Zidane, Amad went with the 1st team on tour and got time to get used to EtH's system. Shola might be still learning stuff and just didn't want to mess up an opportunity
 
I’m never quite sure why he’s so highly rated. Like what is he very good at? More likely me not being a good judge than him not being a good player, mind you.

His off the ball is quite good but overall looks like one of those players who eases it past the academy only to find the step up too difficult. Also with that physique, he's going to be literally "blown away" by air.
 
Yeah I've never seen it with him. Not sure what he's supposed to be good at. Also I tend to think that you aren't going to make it as a Man United attacker unless you have some exceptional qualities... Anyway, young and we'll see by 21 where he's at, he's going to be a slow burner.
 
Always found it difficult to judge Shoretire because he's nearly always been playing ahead of his age. And I think his skills are almost I don't know subtle? Not standout or easily recognisable qualities. So you often feel like he underwhelms but you can see that part of his quality is the maturity to his game or he doesn't really have glaring weaknesses? And then he'll do something with real quality which makes you think wow he could end up being really good. Then as with all young players will he have the luck, the focus, all that's needed beyond talent to make it to the very top.
 
The kid has just turned 18 and being quite small (although seems to have shot up a bit recently) he’s going to find the transition will take time! He played U18 football when he was 14 which shows you how highly he’s thought of in the academy!

He’s definitely best played centrally probably as an 8 or 10 and is very much an orchestrator- gelling a team together. I think that’s why he won’t stand out much with small cameos (particularly out wide)

I personally still have very high hopes for him and think he may be a Scholes in that he doesn’t really break through until he’s 20. His style also reminds me of a young Scholes too
 
Really many young players are currently ahead of him. He could use a loan somewhere to Eredivisie
 
I reckon he'll end up a more box to box midfielder if he develops his defensive side of the game.
 
I think he's one of those cute players who has good vision and good technique for his age and who drifts into the half spaces and makes himself available for passes. Think he's good but just needs to adjust to the pace of senior football - lots of the passes and through balls he attempted were great ideas but poorly executed because the opposition players were just too quick.

I'm not necessarily sure he'll make it at United but even to have the number of games he's already got at 18 for United means he's better than probably 85% of academy kids in his age group. I definitely don't seem him as a box to box though. Not sure he has the engine or dynamism for that. Always seems more of a link man to me. A Muller/Van de Beek archetype.

Writing kids off at 18 can make you look very foolish, especially ones that are getting promoted at a far quicker rate than their peers.
 
I remember there being a massive hype around this lad. Now we have Garnacho, it seems some of you lot have just disregarded him completely, despite the lad being only 18. You lot are nuts!
 
The kid is 18 :lol:
So is Garnacho! And it's clear who is ahead of who. I fear Shoretire will go the way of Angel Gomes as just being too small and passive. We aren't talking about just having the potential for the premier league, but for man United. You need to be aggressive and show you have the talent to be a star to be an attacker for a big club. Plenty of time of course, but if I were a betting man I'd bet he won't make it here. I genuinely don't know what he's supposed to be good at. Doesn't have pace, power, doesn't have amad like dribbling (and I don't think amad will make it here either), doesn't have much of a nose for goal... We'll see how he goes, hopefully he steps up and shows that he can be a man united player.
 
I think he's one of those cute players who has good vision and good technique for his age and who drifts into the half spaces and makes himself available for passes. Think he's good but just needs to adjust to the pace of senior football - lots of the passes and through balls he attempted were great ideas but poorly executed because the opposition players were just too quick.

I'm not necessarily sure he'll make it at United but even to have the number of games he's already got at 18 for United means he's better than probably 85% of academy kids in his age group. I definitely don't seem him as a box to box though. Not sure he has the engine or dynamism for that. Always seems more of a link man to me. A Muller/Van de Beek archetype.

Writing kids off at 18 can make you look very foolish, especially ones that are getting promoted at a far quicker rate than their peers.
I expect nothing less from this place anymore, I find it hilarious people who sit behind their online profile on here everyday feel like they have a more informed opinion than our coaches.
 
Why are we always so critical of youngsters? Not every teenager is a Ronaldo or Rooney.

Loans are there for a purpose, we get it right with some of our youth players and we could benefit massively in 2/3/4 years.
 
So is Garnacho! And it's clear who is ahead of who. I fear Shoretire will go the way of Angel Gomes as just being too small and passive. We aren't talking about just having the potential for the premier league, but for man United. You need to be aggressive and show you have the talent to be a star to be an attacker for a big club. Plenty of time of course, but if I were a betting man I'd bet he won't make it here. I genuinely don't know what he's supposed to be good at. Doesn't have pace, power, doesn't have amad like dribbling (and I don't think amad will make it here either), doesn't have much of a nose for goal... We'll see how he goes, hopefully he steps up and shows that he can be a man united player.

And so was Januzaj! Fact is, people develop at different stages. That's not to say Shoretire will go onto have a better career than Garnacho, but one being better than the other at the same age doesn't neccasrily mean it will be the case in 5 years time, for example.
 
Why are we always so critical of youngsters? Not every teenager is a Ronaldo or Rooney.

Loans are there for a purpose, we get it right with some of our youth players and we could benefit massively in 2/3/4 years.
Honestly the way people are rating any youngsters at both end of the spectrum after the tour is completely fecking bonkers. With the exception of regular youth watchers, whose opinions I know anyway due to regular interactions, I don't know how people have such strongly formulated opinions on these players. I quite like Garnacho but you'd think he'd just scored 6 consecutive hat tricks the way people are talking about him, it was quite literally his first 60 minutes of senior football. Madness.

I've had my reservations about Shoretire and still do, but he's shown potential for the youth teams, he deserves as much of a shot as anyone else in the U23s.
 
Honestly the way people are rating any youngsters at both end of the spectrum after the tour is completely fecking bonkers. With the exception of regular youth watchers, whose opinions I know anyway due to regular interactions, I don't know how people have such strongly formulated opinions on these players. I quite like Garnacho but you'd think he'd just scored 6 consecutive hat tricks the way people are talking about him, it was quite literally his first 60 minutes of senior football. Madness.

I've had my reservations about Shoretire and still do, but he's shown potential for the youth teams, he deserves as much of a shot as anyone else in the U23s.
Absolutely. No patience means we write players off and then you see the complete opposite where we tend to overrate to ridiculous levels too.
 
Absolutely. No patience means we write players off and then you see the complete opposite where we tend to overrate to ridiculous levels too.
United's problem is not cutting the cord sooner and taking the profit while we can. Its ok that not every player has it in them to become a star player, and that's essentially what is required to make it as an attacker here. We expect them all to make it and miss out on literally hundreds of millions as a result of our policy. Better to be more ruthless rather than persist with guys like Elanga endlessly.
 
Why are we always so critical of youngsters? Not every teenager is a Ronaldo or Rooney.

Loans are there for a purpose, we get it right with some of our youth players and we could benefit massively in 2/3/4 years.

Guess we have been spoilt over the last 20 or so years. Players who don't instantly look like a Giggs or Rooney start getting doubted quickly
 
And so was Januzaj! Fact is, people develop at different stages. That's not to say Shoretire will go onto have a better career than Garnacho, but one being better than the other at the same age doesn't neccasrily mean it will be the case in 5 years time, for example.
I would be ecstatic if Shoretire had a career as good as Januzaj's.
 
United's problem is not cutting the cord sooner and taking the profit while we can. Its ok that not every player has it in them to become a star player, and that's essentially what is required to make it as an attacker here. We expect them all to make it and miss out on literally hundreds of millions as a result of our policy. Better to be more ruthless rather than persist with guys like Elanga endlessly.
Yeah this is another point I agree with too. When you get your first team appearances you have to show something, something that sets you apart from everyone else. I think it's fair to say Rashford and Greenwood showed something different when they were given their opportunities, in a similar vein I think Iqbal has shown something a little different, albeit only in pre-season, and that's coming from someone who wasn't wholly convinced by him at U23 level.

It was pretty obvious from the get-go McTominay and Pereira were a bit shit yet both have wracked up loads of appearances for us, McTominay is on 170(!) which I find mental. Lingard, Tuanzebe, Chong, Williams ... the list goes on. All those players pretty obviously aren't and never were good enough yet got chance after chance.
 
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