Sheep Draft Q/F - Moby vs. 2mufc0 - Voting closed

Who will win this match


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Team Moby

Formation: Zona Mista. A homage to the main man of my team: Giacinto Facchetti. Rarely does this absolute colossus of a player get to be the absolute highlight of a team, in a sheep draft setting where you are likely to have an unpredictable mix, it was a fair decision to give the man a well deserved limelight and give him the entire flank to wreck havoc.

Not that the team isn't otherwise filled with impact makers and an array of talent that should be able to function really well together. The team revolves around the tireless Facchetti, the maverick Koeman, the commanding Keane and the mercurial Zico.

Right at the back we have England's finest between the posts. Only Gordon Banks rivals Shilton's body of work and contribution to English football with the gloves. Shilton will be guarding the locked defense with Koeman marshalling it as the sweeper of the team. Incredible passing, reading of the play and organising at the back, big game player. Ruggeri and Ferrera flanking him, both well versed in their roles as lateral centre backs, on their favourable sides. Providing the steel to Koeman's silk, rugged physicality and faultless marking. And lastly, Facchetti, the marauder. The one man force down the left, and back up in a flash. Lockdown defender of the highest calibre.

In midfield, we change up from the previous setup and bring in Fernando Hierro as the defensive midfielder. A powerhouse at Madrid over the years, Hierro was world class as a centre-back and as a defensive midfielder, the ideal hybrid that is required in that position to plug the gaps between the midfield and defense, as well as one who is able to slot as the sweeper when Koeman drives into midfield. He will bring his renowned elite long range passing, reading of the game and a strong physical frame to contain the threats in that area.

What it does is, releases Roy Keane from the full fledged DM role into an all action box to box midfield general. I am quite excited to allow Keano play in this role, one of his attributes that is often overlooked is the ability on the ball and drive going forward, something I expect to come to the fore, as well as the benefit of being at the heart of the game, being able to perform both in defensive and offensive phases equally and absolutely marshall the team. He'll be a massive contributor from this position and should be able make a huge impact on the game.

The second addition was Roberto Donadoni, the Milan and Italian veteran takes up the right sided role, a much more familiar presence for him being the tireless workhorse on the flank while also providing the inch perfect crossing and passing, well capable of joining the attack as a scorer or a creator.

Capping it all off, is Zico. At the heart of the attack, the orchestrator, the extraordinary goalscorer, bringing it all together.

Del Piero takes up his natural position of the inside left channel (can't be arsed with more Italian), and the devastating pre-injury Del Piero who could turn a game around in half an hour, yet selflessly allow everyone else around him to shine and take the team forward. With an Facchetti supporting him on that side, they should be a handful. Lastly, the team needs a finisher, and we have one of the finest. A bucketful of goals at the highest level is what defines the French legend of Fontaine, especially his performances at the NATIONAL LEVEL.

The players share the grafting mentality required in the counter attacking formation like this one, all well versed in playing till they dropped and getting their teams past the line by hook or by crook.

Similarly, on the ball, a selfless team philosophy where everyone will be ensuring that the sum is greater than the parts.

Players having roles that come to them naturally, ensuring a high level of predictability of performance and in the end, they should get the job done without much fuss.

Team 2MUFC0

The formation graphic is pretty self explanatory, all of the players are playing in positions they are comfortable in and are of high quality. I believe my team has a blend of power, speed and skill with Didi at the centre of things. The wings are covered by 2 deadly goal-scoring wingers and spearheaded by one of the best centre forwards in the pool.

I have brought in Seedorf to add a bit more energy and tenacity into the midfield, his all-round skillful and energetic game will provide something different in the midfield. Also partnered with Voronin it should give a good base for Didi to run the show.

The front 3 will be serviced by Didi in the final third and also from deeper potions with Seedorf and Voronin. This makes the team deadly not only in general play but also on the counter, esp with the pace of the front 3 and the tireless overlapping fullbacks.

In defence, i have upgraded my LB by bringing in Evra, if Moby plays the same formation as last time he will only have Donadoni to contend with which i think he is capable of handling. His surges from left back will also stretch the opposition for the deadly Stoichkov to exploit.

Like with most of the teams i draft, the philosophy is to play football and be adaptable depending on the match situation, the only special instruction in place is for Voronin to keep an eye on Zico when he's in those dangerous pockets of space infront of the defence, a job he is more than capauble of
 
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The addition of Hierro is interesting. I can see the idea behind them interchanging, but in the end you have 2 players with similar sets of strengths and, more importantly, weaknesses. And having 2 slow-ish central players is a big risk against 2mufc's rapid attacking unit.

Hard to separate. Man-to-man Moby perhaps has a little advantage, but 2mufc's side is tactically well set-up to counter him.
 
Great team by Moby but think I can target the right side of that defence, Ferrara playing in an unfamiliar position and Koeman's lack of pace vs Stoichkov and Sheva.
 
Great team by Moby but think I can target the right side of that defence, Ferrara playing in an unfamiliar position and Koeman's lack of pace vs Stoichkov and Sheva.
That role is ideal for Ciro. He has played as a centre back and a right back tucked in. Moreover that role requires athleticism and physical prowess which he has in plenty. Having a player like Stoichkov that would cut inside makes his job easier as he would be able to track him well. He's a great match for Hristo given his attributes.
 
The addition of Hierro is interesting. I can see the idea behind them interchanging, but in the end you have 2 players with similar sets of strengths and, more importantly, weaknesses. And having 2 slow-ish central players is a big risk against 2mufc's rapid attacking unit.

Hard to separate. Man-to-man Moby perhaps has a little advantage, but 2mufc's side is tactically well set-up to counter him.
The interchanging factor is very much an after-thought and a nice to have feature, which is simply to have assurance by having someone who can provide that sort of cover in case a space arises.

However, what Hierro brings in first and foremost is incredible defensive solidity into that midfield, shielding the defense and the ability to plug in any gaps between the midfield and defense. A young Hierro was far more dynamic than his older sweeper version and was a massive lockdown defensive presence either in midfield or in defense.

What that does in addition to having a great DM in place is allowing Roy Keane to be in his absolute element. Not only is a Hierro-Keane midfield defensively watertight and provides a great base off the ball, but with the assurance of having a proper DM alongside, you will see the prime Keane in his all action juggernaut incarnation. SAF played Butt alongside him in the bigger European games to not have the entire defensive burden on him and provide him the freedom to impact the game wherever the action is happening. His ability on the ball in terms of passing and distribution as well as the forward driving runs with the workrate and dynamism will be a massive weapon for me and like I said in the OP, I expect him to have a great game. With all due respect to the opposition, I don't see anyone who can curb him down enough to not let him take this game by the scruff of it's neck.

With Hierro minding behind him and Zico having in front of him as the primary playmaker and orchestrator, I definitely love what Keane brings to the table.

I also back Zico to get the better of Voronin here, as good as the Russian is. Zico with the given platform behind him is set to shine here.
 
Agree with most of the points made so far. Ferrara is fine in that role having excelled at both CB and RB, as well as having been part of back 3 set-ups at times during his career. Hierro is a good addition and can see him and Keane bossing most midfields. 2mufc0 has a good match up here though with Voronin being one of the very few who I'd like to have in my corner against Zico. Would agree with Harms in that Moby has a tad more quality, but could be vulnerable on the counter with the pace of the 2mufc0 attack.

Tight game.
 
Think tactically 2mufc is a bit cleaner and and it’s nice to see Didi in such a set up.

Ayala / Nesta shielded by Voronin looks watertight and should mitigate the threat of Zico (the best player on the park). The pace in that Stoichkov / Robben / Sheva front three is frightening and I can see them posing real problems to Moby’s backline.
 
Think tactically 2mufc is a bit cleaner and and it’s nice to see Didi in such a set up.

Ayala / Nesta shielded by Voronin looks watertight and should mitigate the threat of Zico (the best player on the park). The pace in that Stoichkov / Robben / Sheva front three is frightening and I can see them posing real problems to Moby’s backline.
Don't see Robben having much if not any joy vs Facchetti. Not only is the Italian a brilliant defender capable of negating the greatest threat but he was also a Supreme athlete and at his peak he was faster than Robben if we go by his 100m sprint times. There aren't many better names who can absolutely take Robben out of the game.

However, given Facchetti is in his ideal role and formation here with the license to maraud down the flank, I don't see Robben providing any tracking back to stop his influence from that position be it in terms of passing crossing or running with the ball. Facchetti has endless reserves of stamina and will be a havoc from that position.
 
Don't see Robben having much if not any joy vs Facchetti. Not only is the Italian a brilliant defender capable of negating the greatest threat but he was also a Supreme athlete and at his peak he was faster than Robben if we go by his 100m sprint times. There aren't many better names who can absolutely take Robben out of the game.

However, given Facchetti is in his ideal role and formation here with the license to maraud down the flank, I don't see Robben providing any tracking back to stop his influence from that position be it in terms of passing crossing or running with the ball. Facchetti has endless reserves of stamina and will be a havoc from that position.
Interesting, source for this?

We will be fine in terms of defence on that side with Seedorf covering when necessary. The bigger issue is Facchetti getting caught upfield and Robben running full pelt at Ruggeri.
 
From what I’ve seen of him, I don’t think that Facchetti was faster than Robben, who is pretty much as fast as they come.

Those 100m records aren’t precise when they don’t come from official competitions. It’s obvious that Facchetti was incredibly fast but I’d take those numbers with a pinch of salt.
 
even if Facchetti is faster at 100m sprint thats irrelevant as Robben game is all about first few steps and quick change of direction and on that basis he has the advantage over italian, saying that there isnt a big pool of players that you would choose over Facchetti to handle Robben + Robben will be more against Ruggeri and Hierro then he will be against Robben.
 
Two really well balanced teams.
You can discuss all you want, this is a draw in my book.
 
Agree with most of the points made so far. Ferrara is fine in that role having excelled at both CB and RB, as well as having been part of back 3 set-ups at times during his career. Hierro is a good addition and can see him and Keane bossing most midfields. 2mufc0 has a good match up here though with Voronin being one of the very few who I'd like to have in my corner against Zico. Would agree with Harms in that Moby has a tad more quality, but could be vulnerable on the counter with the pace of the 2mufc0 attack.

Tight game.

Aye, it's a bastard to decide on this one. No poor fits in either team, with Moby shading it in terms of individual quality probably, and nailing a very sexy Zona Mista as well. On the other hand, 2mufc's scorchingly quick attack looks tailor-made to cause a Ruggeri-Koeman-Ferrara de facto backline problems, and it's probably long overdue to see Didi afforded such a prominent, potentially match-winning role.

FFS, started typing this expecting to vote Moby, now veering towards 2mufc0, will probably fanny out in the end :lol:
 
I was thinking Moby would gor for Leo Junior for the left DM role and was expecting a fail. Hierro is a nice upgrade and Donadoni fits the tactics.

Same with 2mufc. Seedorf fits in nice and Evra is solid.

Hierro and Keane is a savage midfield in any configuration, but I wondered whether Moby might let the handbrake off Hierro and give him the more attacking role of the pair, given his incredible scoring record from CM.

I only really quoted you to remind you of this glorious victory in fairness, with the unexpectedly attacking CM Hierro grinding your plans into a bloody pulp:

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/la-...zzo-pat-mustard-vs-edgar-allan-pillow.415486/
 
Hierro and Keane is a savage midfield in any configuration, but I wondered whether Moby might let the handbrake off Hierro and give him the more attacking role of the pair, given his incredible scoring record from CM.

I only really quoted you to remind you of this glorious victory in fairness, with the unexpectedly attacking CM Hierro grinding your plans into a bloody pulp:

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/la-...zzo-pat-mustard-vs-edgar-allan-pillow.415486/
Daylight robbery, this was it. Deco won a CL under Mou in this.