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Murt

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like the one about belgium in May 1985.

Their was no malice in it, why cant they be discussed.
Or perhaps moved to the current events forum?
Several of us are grown ups after all.
 
I closed it Murt because I felt you had made your point and the dicussion had nowhere else to go.
 
marchingontogether said:
I closed it Murt because I felt you had made your point and the dicussion had nowhere else to go.
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Well several ppl obviously either didnt understand the point or else thought i was wrong which is reason enough for discussion.
Its amazing that we can discuss abortions, the middle east etc but not two of footballs biggest disasters ever!
Whenever these issues come up we allways get these politically correct ignorant fuchers comes in saying that the dead are being disrespected et which is bull.

Im not criticising you for closing it as it, what pisses me off is the reason why you had to close it, ie ppl seeing the "H" words and assuming its a dig at the dead.
Its the same with the scouse newspaper boycott, i think its a load of bollox which keeps the lies alive. That cant be discussed either which as i said amongst adults i sad.
Rant over.
 
You should be glad it was closed....it makes you look small time and pathetic Murt

and its not the first time
 
Mention away..

Anyone who knows anything of the nature of your posts recognised that it was a p1ss poor attempt at a dig...using the lowest denominator you could find....its nothing new from you.

Its a pity that the topics closed, you could have gone on to make yourself look more pathetic, whilst I explained to you that nursing is a girl's job
 
I had a look in one of the Millwall boards during our FA Cup invasion and there was a lot of filth said in there about Munich which made these so called football fans seem more like savages than people.

I dont think its a good idea bringing up any football disasters in a football forum unless of course for commemorative reasons and if the LFC fans in here dont want to mention Heysel on its anniversary then thats their business, you cant blame them for wanting to forget about that terrible night for football. Hillsborough is a different more emotive kettle of fish altogether and its kind of understandable why one gets mentioned and the other receives very little attention. I dont know what Murt was trying to prove by posing his question in the now closed thread and would hope that it wasn't an attempt to take a dig at our scouse friends in here. Perhaps he'll explain his motive for doing so and thus clear this up.
 
Nialler said:
I had a look in one of the Millwall boards during our FA Cup invasion and there was a lot of filth said in there about Munich which made these so called football fans seem more like savages than people.

I dont think its a good idea bringing up any football disasters in a football forum unless of course for commemorative reasons and if the LFC fans in here dont want to mention Heysel on its anniversary then thats their business, you cant blame them for wanting to forget about that terrible night for football. Hillsborough is a different more emotive kettle of fish altogether and its kind of understandable why one gets mentioned and the other receives very little attention. I dont know what Murt was trying to prove by posing his question in the now closed thread and would hope that it wasn't an attempt to take a dig at our scouse friends in here. Perhaps he'll explain his motive for doing so and thus clear this up.
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I think he have explained it earlier (the closed topic). any IMO both are equally sad tragedy. and if one get mentioned the others should too.

and lastly I hope these ppl who causes these tragedy to burn in hell forever.
 
Nothing wrong with talking about the incidents as adults. PC poofs can piss right off from a thread if they can't handle any issue in question. As long as those things are being discussed in a proper fashion.

But the opening post of the Heysel thread was clearly meant to WU the Dippers on here. THAT made using Heysel wrong. There's no room for that kind of nonsense on this board and I was glad to see the reactions of my fellow Reds on here. From what I've read...you seem like a decent person, Murt. So it's no big deal and water under the bridge and all that...but that shit was small-time.
 
TheDevil'sOwn said:
Nothing wrong with talking about the incidents as adults. PC poofs can piss right off from a thread if they can't handle any issue in question. As long as those things are being discussed in a proper fashion.

But the opening post of the Heysel thread was clearly meant to WU the Dippers on here. THAT made using Heysel wrong. There's no room for that kind of nonsense on this board and I was glad to see the reactions of my fellow Reds on here. From what I've read...you seem like a decent person, Murt. So it's no big deal and water under the bridge and all that...but that shit was small-time.
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'small time' is probably not the most tactful/sensitive way to refer to multiple deaths! :nono:
 
Feedingseagulls said:
'small time' is probably not the most tactful/sensitive way to refer to multiple deaths! :nono:
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This is my point, we cant even discuss the discussing of the H words without ppl hitting politically correct mode. :rolleyes:
 
Murt said:
This is my point, we cant even discuss the discussing of the H words without ppl hitting politically correct mode. :rolleyes:
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And so we can't refer to Heysel or Hillsborough as serious incidents causing grief and worthy of making sure it is less likely anything like them happens again. Oh dear I've just done it - does that make me irredeemably politically-correct or just sensible?
 
Feedingseagulls said:
'small time' is probably not the most tactful/sensitive way to refer to multiple deaths! :nono:
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:confused: :nono: Huh...how did you figure I was calling the deaths of innocent people "small time?"

Heysel is not what I was referring to as "small time." What Murt appeared to be doing was. But now that you'v taken my comments out of context...looks like I have to defend both sides of the issue. It's OK...I'm a Yank...I'm used to it. It's hard to have these discussions without people jumping to the wrong conclusions about what is meant by what someone else types. It doesn't necessarily condone what I felt was the nature of the thread in question...but if Murt felt that it was closed just because what it was about...then I can see his point. It's just words and opinions. They don't have to be right. But if they're expressed...then they're open for debate and criticism. We shouldn't close down avenues of discussion because it's not proper in public. If a topic is broached intelligently...then anything is up for dissection and discussion. Look at the General...loads of pseudo-brainiacs pontificate to their heart's delight in there, and all manner of topic is open for debate. I'ld hate to think that this place would make me censor myself just to be a part of it. That doesn't seem the case...hence why I stay around. And I'm guessing others feel comfy here, too. Lets continue that and stop creating petty WUM threads meant to set people off or get a rise out of the forumistas as a whole.
 
AhmedDimwitson said:
I was appalled by the closing of this topic.
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The topic was not closed because of the subject matter - I closed it because I felt Murt had made his point and the topic was then descending into insults.

By all means have a debate but when it comes down to someone telling Murt to get back to cleaning up the piss what exactly is the point of keeping it open?
 
TheDevil'sOwn said:
:confused: :nono: Huh...how did you figure I was calling the deaths of innocent people "small time?"

Heysel is not what I was referring to as "small time." What Murt appeared to be doing was. But now that you'v taken my comments out of context...looks like I have to defend both sides of the issue. It's OK...I'm a Yank...I'm used to it. It's hard to have these discussions without people jumping to the wrong conclusions about what is meant by what someone else types. It doesn't necessarily condone what I felt was the nature of the thread in question...but if Murt felt that it was closed just because what it was about...then I can see his point. It's just words and opinions. They don't have to be right. But if they're expressed...then they're open for debate and criticism. We shouldn't close down avenues of discussion because it's not proper in public. If a topic is broached intelligently...then anything is up for dissection and discussion. Look at the General...loads of pseudo-brainiacs pontificate to their heart's delight in there, and all manner of topic is open for debate. I'ld hate to think that this place would make me censor myself just to be a part of it. That doesn't seem the case...hence why I stay around. And I'm guessing others feel comfy here, too. Lets continue that and stop creating petty WUM threads meant to set people off or get a rise out of the forumistas as a whole.
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Sorry I missed your reply - this makes a lot more sense - but if you look at the para I commented upon you can see how it could easily be worryingly misinterpreted:

"But the opening post of the Heysel thread was clearly meant to WU the Dippers on here. THAT made using Heysel wrong. There's no room for that kind of nonsense on this board and I was glad to see the reactions of my fellow Reds on here. From what I've read...you seem like a decent person, Murt. So it's no big deal and water under the bridge and all that...but that shit was small-time." The phrase 'but that shit' suggested a different focus from the 'nonsense' commented on in the first half of the sentence and the only other topic present here that would potentially fit is the incidents themselves. (because 'that shit' is so close to the type of judgement in the first half that the 'but' seemed to suggest a change of topic)

Sorry I mis-read you though - but it was an honest mistake!
 
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